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Nikon SB400 / Sunpak RD2000
« on: May 25, 2011, 02:27:59 PM »
hi guys,
if i'm not wrong, the RD2000 is the equivalent of the SB400 (or as close to it) in terms of price and GN. while the logical choice is to go with nikon, the price difference is still a factor. is the savings worth it to get the sunpak over the nikon?

btw, the criteria for this choice of flash is portability (i dislike bulk), decent power (indoor use, mostly small rooms), ability to bounce or be difused with a GF lightsphere (cloud/half cloud) - not sure if the "universal" mount of the lightsphere will fit the sunpak in this regard.

i can get a bnew RD2000 for the price of a pre-owned SB400. also, the SB400 is no longer readily available as it has long been discontinued, but the hunt may be worth it.

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Nikon SB400 / Sunpak RD2000
« on: May 25, 2011, 02:27:59 PM »

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Re: Nikon SB400 / Sunpak RD2000
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2011, 02:59:28 PM »
ability to bounce or be difused with a GF lightsphere (cloud/half cloud) - not sure if the "universal" mount of the lightsphere will fit the sunpak in this regard.

can't use a lightsphere with the sb400... you need the head to tilt and swivel as well... sb400's head only tilts.

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You can't use a Lightsphere or Whaletail on the SB-400, because it doesn't swivel.


i can get a bnew RD2000 for the price of a pre-owned SB400. also, the SB400 is no longer readily available as it has long been discontinued, but the hunt may be worth it.

the sb400 is still current... it is the 600 that will be discontinued in the near future due to the 700.

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Re: Nikon SB400 / Sunpak RD2000
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2011, 03:42:21 PM »
Have used the RD2000 but canon version. What I like is that there's flash compensation button at the back of the flash. The whole body tilts up to 90 degrees so you can probably attached a lightsphere.

The problem with it as well as other third party flashes is the compatibility issue. The one I used before didn't want to work on the 500D as it was newly release at that time but works fine with the 450D.

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Re: Nikon SB400 / Sunpak RD2000
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2011, 03:49:44 PM »
unless you've meant sb600, the sb400 is junk in my opinion.

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Re: Nikon SB400 / Sunpak RD2000
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2011, 04:49:15 PM »
@ maj - thanks for the input. funny though, i checked on one website and the SB400 is listed as compatible for the lightsphere. will keep this in mind though. i would need to speak to my "suking" retailer to order the SB400 if that is the case. :)

@ estib - thanks for the feedback. i'll be sure to bring 2 AAs to test either of these flashes. :)

@ glenn - thanks for the feedback sir. and yes, i have thought about getting the SB600 because it definitely is more usable than the SB400. but i don't have a use for it's functions as of yet. and i'm really looking at portability above my other criteria in getting the flash.
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Re: Nikon SB400 / Sunpak RD2000
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2011, 06:05:34 PM »
unless you've meant sb600, the sb400 is junk in my opinion.
;D :D At least it is better off than the built in flash since it can avoid the shadows when using the hood of bigger and longer lenses.
If Nikon integrated the ability to be slaved with on board flash then, I will consider it as a lighter alternative. If you think of your future as a strobist or will try later then this is a "junk" ( not absolute).
You have to understand that some of us are buying Nikon flashes and keep those until the day it die. Instead of selling we just add more  ;D :D ;) ::)..However, since your criteria is portability then no one can argue with you but I still prefer the Nikon SB400 over the Sunpak RD2000 because it is a Nikon. No one knows better about Nikon flashes but Nikon ( not trying to be sunpak snob though!!!). ;)

But I hope you will consider your criteria before investing because it is your money not ours!!! ;)
If you are a true blue bloodied Nikonian, the Nikon's CLS is a true source of pride because it is second to none IMHO. The SB600 is the minimum flash you can buy to take advantage of it!!! Good luck though!!!!

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Re: Nikon SB400 / Sunpak RD2000
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2011, 06:37:56 PM »

@ estib - thanks for the feedback. i'll be sure to bring 2 AAs to test either of these flashes. :)


The RD2000 should have no compatibility issues with current camera model as long the firmware is updated. The problem is when newer camera models are release and are not compatible with flash.

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Re: Nikon SB400 / Sunpak RD2000
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2011, 07:38:21 PM »
I have the SB 400 and the Gary Fong collapsible lightsphere as my diffuser. I just find it physically impossible for the lightsphere to work properly with the SB 400.

SB 400 is good if you want to drain your camera batteries since it uses two AA batteries. It is a very limiting camera since you can't use a bounce flash when taking a portrait shot and the power is only so so.

Here is a link so that you know what you are talking about.

http://www.garyfongestore.com/flash-accessories/lightsphere-universal-cloud.html

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Re: Nikon SB400 / Sunpak RD2000
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2011, 01:59:01 PM »
thanks guys!

yeah, i checked the compatibility of the lightsphere again and it won't work. will most likely go for the nikon then. although the incompatibility of the lightsphere is now making me think of saving up for an SB600 instead.

if i find a good deal on the SB600 (most probably pre-loved) i would think about getting it. unless i can order an SB400 off my suki at an earlier time.

cheers guys! many thanks!
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Re: Nikon SB400 / Sunpak RD2000
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2011, 02:12:55 PM »
making me think of saving up for an SB600 instead.

here's my tip (based on my experience and opinion)

1. skip the sb400 and save up for the sb600... the sb400 will cater only to some that has specific requirements for a small and light flash
2. get a stofen instead of a lightsphere


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Re: Nikon SB400 / Sunpak RD2000
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2011, 09:58:15 AM »
hi again!

i ended up with a sunpak RD2000 which i got a pretty good deal on. it's just right for my current shooting needs. i have already felt it's limitations outdoors, and it's a shame as the size really just hits the spot.

so while i'm saving up for an SB600 (shh, don't tell my wife) ... i am still going to keep this for it's size though but i would like to utilize this flash as best that i can living with it's current limitations.

the next question is, (since i've gone third party on the flash anyway) which is the better flash modifier?

a micnova flashbounce card (true, i can make one out of white cardboard and rubber band, but it's really cheap and better looking than a DIY one)

OR

a lambency cloud flash diffuser (it's a gary fong copy-cat at a fraction of the price! i have already compared the size and it "should" fit the head of the RD2000, plus it's only slightly more expensinve that the micnova)

cheers! and many thanks!
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Re: Nikon SB400 / Sunpak RD2000
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2011, 11:47:05 AM »
the next question is, (since i've gone third party on the flash anyway) which is the better flash modifier?

IMO, none. Why ? Just change the way you shoot with flash... expose to at most 2/3rd stop below and let the flash act as fill (naka set sa TTL, -1 up to -2)

At kung masyadong mababa yun shutter speed, bawiin na lang sa ISO o open up sa aperture na lang.

Kung pwede naman bounce, di bounce. Kung wala talaga, head on, flash EV -2.

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