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24-70 vs. prime lenses
« on: July 23, 2010, 09:02:35 AM »
hi, i am currently changing my whole gear to Canon. i'm still thinking what i would get as my lens line up. thinking of getting just one lens, canon 24-70 2.8. but also, i think its a great idea to just get a couple of prime lenses (85 1.8, 50 1.4 or 1.8, 35 f2, and ultra wide 12-24 tokina). i primarily want to use my whole gear for leisure photography and shooting short films. what do you guys think? and with budget constraints, do you think it would be worth it to get the 50 1.4 over the 1.8? TIA!

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Re: 24-70 vs. prime lenses
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2010, 09:09:09 AM »
primes are generally less distorted and more resistant to artifacts. size is also an advantage :o :o :o

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Re: 24-70 vs. prime lenses
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2010, 11:39:50 AM »
ang walang kamatayang - "it depends on your shooting style sir" hehehe

what were your lenses nung nikon ka pa sir? and were you satisfied with them? i think it's best to start here para makasagot kami ng maayos.. :)
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Re: 24-70 vs. prime lenses
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2010, 11:52:58 AM »
I personally did not enjoy using the 24-70 of canon. ang bigat. I am limited with what I could do in low light because of the weight (cam shake). I read somewhere that some people descirbed the 24-70 as a brick and I would describe it the same way.

50 1.4 is a good piece of glass and is much different IQ wise in my experience. pero I'm not sure about actual data.

get primes :D or maybe a zoom with IS for video would suite you.
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Re: 24-70 vs. prime lenses
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2010, 12:01:49 PM »
i had only one lens, 17-55 2.8. it was good, im actually fine with anything. i just want to know whether it would be a better idea to go for primes since they are faster and lighter based on you experiences, etc.

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Re: 24-70 vs. prime lenses
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2010, 12:14:50 PM »
i am not a pro sir but here is my opinion:

get a 24-70 f/2.8. generally a good all around lens
35mm
85mm

some say better get a f/1.8 over a f/1.4
either way, it all depends on you sir.
zoom lens naman kung kailangan mo na (eg:70-200)

i personally use a 24-70 (kept my kit lens already), 70-300 (which i rarely use) and saving up for a 35mm f/1.8 and/or an 85mm f/1.8.
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Re: 24-70 vs. prime lenses
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2010, 12:25:00 PM »
if you would choosing primes, are you willing to sacrifice the convenience of just having one lens?

but having a set of primes would be convenient as well since you can choose according to the needs of the situation...
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Re: 24-70 vs. prime lenses
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2010, 12:31:40 PM »
i also have question
why you shift to canon?

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Re: 24-70 vs. prime lenses
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2010, 12:40:57 PM »
simply because i am in to videography. without a doubt, canon's video capabilities are far superior than nikon's. of course, we never know what to expect from nikon especially now that we are all anticipating the D90 replacement. but thinking it over, i am already fine with Canon's 550D. leisure photography and great videography.

back to the topic, am i willing to sacrifice the convenience of having just one lens? that is the question i am also trying to answer. haha! still weighing between 24-70 and a couple of nice prime lenses!

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Re: 24-70 vs. prime lenses
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2010, 12:41:39 PM »
my vote is for the 24-70L.

although it's a lot heavier than any of the primes mentioned, the advantages are:
1) zooms gives you more flexibility.
2) zooms minimizes switching lenses too often.
3) less lenses to carrying around in your bag.
4) less GAS coz you're only buying 1 lens vs. several primes (cumulative cost).
5) L lenses are easier to resell.

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Re: 24-70 vs. prime lenses
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2010, 01:00:38 PM »
i had only one lens, 17-55 2.8. it was good, im actually fine with anything. i just want to know whether it would be a better idea to go for primes since they are faster and lighter based on you experiences, etc.

if you were satisfied with the 2.8 opening of your previous 17-55, then i suggest you get the EF 24-70 or the EF-S 17-55.. weight is negligible, unless you plan on shooting the whole day.. and you mentioned you will be using a 550d which is relatively light compared to xxd/xd bodies so i think weight will not be that big of an issue..

pero if hanap mo eh faster aperture, then by all means go for the primes..

now for the versatility issue, why not try a prime for 1week and decided if you can live with it (madali lang naman humiram ng nifty fifty).. if you don't have a prime, tape a zoom lens to a fixed focal length and try it for 1 week.. :)

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Re: 24-70 vs. prime lenses
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2010, 02:42:00 PM »
I'm no pro.  Just a hobbyist, but here's my two centavos.  Got myself Canon 17-55 f/2.8 and 24-70 f/2.8 as well.  I'm leaning more towards portraits since I like "shooting people" :D hehehe  I also enjoy the flexibility with zooms especially when trying to capture fleeting moments.  Dunno yet if I'll keep both 2.8s or simply settle with just of one of them.  Still taking them out for a spin... though ang bigat ng 24-70 talaga and hirap pag pasmado when shootng in low light (parang di ko mashado ma-maximize yung ganda ng lens) as opposed to my 17-55 na may IS that helps alot.  I'd also be looking to buying 10-22 UWA which would enable me to do nice landscapes and hopefully great vacation shots (sarap siguro mag-shoot nun sa Europe... eventually ;D ) Pero primes rarely disappoint din, bilis eh tapos magaan pa!  Get na 50mm f/1.4 if you could spare the cash (di naman kamahalan) instead of the f/1.8.  I'm sure mas sulit yun. :)

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Re: 24-70 vs. prime lenses
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2010, 03:20:08 PM »
simply because i am in to videography. without a doubt, canon's video capabilities are far superior than nikon's. of course, we never know what to expect from nikon especially now that we are all anticipating the D90 replacement. but thinking it over, i am already fine with Canon's 550D. leisure photography and great videography.

back to the topic, am i willing to sacrifice the convenience of having just one lens? that is the question i am also trying to answer. haha! still weighing between 24-70 and a couple of nice prime lenses!

I don't recommend the 24-70 if your going to shoot lots of videos, it's just too heavy, I usually change to the 18-55 or 50mm when shooting videos.

If your going to shoot mostly handheld, IS is nice feature to have, it will really help in eliminating camera shake. Primes are also a good choice since they are lightweight. I find that I rarely use the zoom of the lens since after zooming I need to adjust the focus afterward leaving the subject out focus for a longer time, I just step forward or backward and adjusting the focus at the same time. Unless you buy those rigs so both of your hands are on the lens.

Regarding the 1.4 or 1.8, do you really need the depth of field of the 1.4? Since exposure is not really a concern for videos and you don't need the ultrasonic motor for videos.  For stills, it's a different story with the 1.4 you get a faster lens, better bokeh and faster in focusing.

Instead of the 24-70, why not the 24-105. It lighter, has greater focal range and it has IS.
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Re: 24-70 vs. prime lenses
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2010, 03:31:48 PM »
Get the 24-70 lens. It's an all around lens and as proof of this, you will often see it attached to a pro photographers' camera.
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Re: 24-70 vs. prime lenses
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2010, 03:58:06 PM »
Hi sir, reading your replies, I saw that the cam you plan to get is the 550D. Just a thought, i would have recommended to get the 24-70 f/2.8L because it is one hell of a lens. But considering the body that will go along with it, the 550D will definitely be too light for the said "brick". hehehehe! ;)

I recommend getting a battery grip to go along with your 550D or better yet, go for the 7D. 7D + 24-70 is one hell of a combination based on my experience sir.

About primes, maganda rin talaga may primes, but versatility will be an issue. And I personally hate changing lenses outdoors, takot ako sa dumi sa VF and sensor.

But if you plan to go the all-prime way, consider rin a 60 f/2.8 macro instead of the 50 f/1.4 prime. Sharper and slightly better colors.

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Re: 24-70 vs. prime lenses
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2010, 04:08:19 PM »
Sir just my opinion. If you'r more on to videography, I suggest get prime lens like 50mm and 85mm f1.8 cause it gives great bokeh. 24-70 is also good but you cant beat Dof of primes.  ;D Ive tried using prime lenses with a my friends d90. Galing!

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Re: 24-70 vs. prime lenses
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2010, 05:19:04 PM »
^ +1

For videography, primes will do. They are less heavy also compared to 24-70. if you're planning to use it with jibs or gliders, you wont be using the zoom function of the 24-70.

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Re: 24-70 vs. prime lenses
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2010, 05:40:40 PM »
For videography, prime is the best.

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Re: 24-70 vs. prime lenses
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2010, 06:49:07 PM »
i have several videographer friends and also based on my newbie experience, they always say IS really helps unless you always use a tripod.

For stills, i'll get the 17-55 over the 24-70 on a crop body.
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Re: 24-70 vs. prime lenses
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2010, 07:57:47 PM »
I mean youre still going to get an "L" Lens so im sure your shots would come out sharp. Also how many prime lenses do you have to pring in your bag?  ;)
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