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D700, will it's price drop? Opinions needed...
« on: August 15, 2009, 10:52:37 PM »
I'm seriously considering the D700.

Is it wise to wait for the D300s, and observe the movement price?

Or should I just go back to D90?
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D700, will it's price drop? Opinions needed...
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Re: D700, will it's price drop? Opinions needed...
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2009, 11:19:50 PM »
first question..is your Lens FF compatible? its not just the body the choice of lens is also important.
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Re: D700, will it's price drop? Opinions needed...
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2009, 11:30:06 PM »
I doubt the D300s introduction will affect the D700. Its the D300's price that will get lower.

I might sell my D700 so the price shouldn't get any lower hehehe actually the price might get higher like that of the D90 w/c price went a bit up when the D5000 came.

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Re: D700, will it's price drop? Opinions needed...
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2009, 12:00:39 AM »
guys... according sa fotohub in T Morato... nakasale  daw ang d700 CDSC  unit... selling for 117k... pls visit and check with them... 

:) hay nako... gastos lang talaga ang dslr...  :)

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Re: D700, will it's price drop? Opinions needed...
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2009, 12:12:25 AM »
I also don't think the D300s will affect the D700 price. It's still a very good cam, no noise banding, 51 point AF and very good frame rate full frame dSLR.
You should however be mindful of the rumored 7D and Alpha 850. If indeed they are 2,000USD or below full frame cameras with comparable features, then the perceived worth (not actual worth) of the D700 may diminish depending on these two rumored models.

The D90 is still the safest option and a good value for money performer, but if you need the D700 now especially with JT/Fotohub's prices, you should just buy it.

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Re: D700, will it's price drop? Opinions needed...
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2009, 12:26:23 AM »
Oh how I wished that D700 will go below 2,000USD pero mukhang malabo pa yatang mangyari until the next FX release.

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Re: D700, will it's price drop? Opinions needed...
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2009, 12:32:42 AM »
Oh how I wished that D700 will go below 2,000USD pero mukhang malabo pa yatang mangyari until the next FX release.


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Re: D700, will it's price drop? Opinions needed...
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2009, 01:22:38 AM »
it would also depend on the value of the Yen ;)
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Re: D700, will it's price drop? Opinions needed...
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2009, 02:40:56 AM »
first question..is your Lens FF compatible? its not just the body the choice of lens is also important.

Hmm... at this point... all I have is a 1.8 AF

So yes.. it is FX compatible...

I sold most of my stuff na...

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Re: D700, will it's price drop? Opinions needed...
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2009, 02:43:19 AM »
I also don't think the D300s will affect the D700 price. It's still a very good cam, no noise banding, 51 point AF and very good frame rate full frame dSLR.
You should however be mindful of the rumored 7D and Alpha 850. If indeed they are 2,000USD or below full frame cameras with comparable features, then the perceived worth (not actual worth) of the D700 may diminish depending on these two rumored models.

The D90 is still the safest option and a good value for money performer, but if you need the D700 now especially with JT/Fotohub's prices, you should just buy it.

Hmm... I'll hold on to my money just yet then... I came from a D90. I still have a 1 month old 18-200VR (Haven't used it pa actually, got it from Pixel Pro), which I am currently selling.

I sold my D90 so I can get something better.... or at least... leave the grey unit.... and get a CDSC.

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Re: D700, will it's price drop? Opinions needed...
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2009, 03:10:34 AM »
IMO the nikon D700 is a benchmark DSLR for Nikon.

Will there be a price drop? - Definitely. As with all DSLR's in due time.  ;)Will the retail price be affected by the release of newer models - Maybe if its positioned to be a replacement for the D700.

Like what others have metioned, you also have to consider your lens line up since FX lenses cost more than the body.

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Re: D700, will it's price drop? Opinions needed...
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2009, 07:26:22 AM »
In my opinion, the D700 should hold most of its value as it is still a notch above the D300s in terms of noise.  Right now, It's estimated that the D300s will debut at around 80 to 85k (based on US online prices).  I think CDSC D300s units will come in around this price.

If you consider that a CDSC D700 is now less than 120k, I think a 35 to 40k spread will more or less hold.

That being said, I feel the D700 is a good "sweet spot" in terms of gear right now.  Personally, I don't need more than 12MP and am happy with being able to shoot at 3200-6400 ISO.  Will the D700's replacement bring better performance?.......It definitely will, but you can argue that its current specs are enough for a large majority of people out there.
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Re: D700, will it's price drop? Opinions needed...
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2009, 12:12:17 PM »
@FrancisJacob

I actually see no problem about buying new lenses, I have actually earmarked 70k for FX(FF) Lenses. I may actually buy FX lenses now and use them on a DX body.
 
I did some check the NPV (Net Present Value).
IMHO lens' value appreciate over time, while the monetary value goes the other way.

@yourdone

I think you raised a valid point, once the prosumer FX(FF) from the competition start churning out, then I'll have more options.
I guess I'll hold on to my money until 2nd Qtr next year for canon to announce their line (and may actually jump ship  ???)

For now I guess I'll be looking out for good deals on

D300, D90 CDSC units... (or even get something brand new) take good care of it, sell them next year with a full 1 year CDSC warranty.

I'll be buying when the D300s comes out, maybe some D300 will go on sale :)
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Re: D700, will it's price drop? Opinions needed...
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2009, 08:56:24 PM »
I also second Psynic's reply.

Once you get to try FX, you just might consider it and forget DX... :)

About your budget, I'd recommend these lenses: 18-35mm f/3.5-4.5D (UWA), 85mm f/1.8D (Portrait) and 80-200mm f/2.8D (Telephoto) in addition to your 50mm f/1.8D (Normal).
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Re: D700, will it's price drop? Opinions needed...
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2009, 01:07:23 AM »
I also second Psynic's reply.

Once you get to try FX, you just might consider it and forget DX... :)

About your budget, I'd recommend these lenses: 18-35mm f/3.5-4.5D (UWA), 85mm f/1.8D (Portrait) and 80-200mm f/2.8D (Telephoto) in addition to your 50mm f/1.8D (Normal).

Sir Jordan,  i might also consider this.  however,  what are the other things that i will miss besides the telephoto reach?

d300 vs d700 + 80-200

on wide end naman,  d90 + 10-20 sigma,. compared to 18-35 on d700.  sigma will be wider right?

i know fx produces better bokeh but  wont the 85mm produce more bokeh because of the 1.5 crop?   
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Re: D700, will it's price drop? Opinions needed...
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2009, 07:29:54 AM »
What are the other things that i will miss besides the telephoto reach?

d300 vs d700 + 80-200

on wide end naman,  d90 + 10-20 sigma,. compared to 18-35 on d700.  sigma will be wider right?

i know fx produces better bokeh but  wont the 85mm produce more bokeh because of the 1.5 crop?   


The only other thing you will probably miss aside from the reach are the lightweight lenses available for DX.  You now won't have something as flexible as the 18-105mm VR or the 18-200 VR.  You'll have to now bring 2 lenses to cover the same ranges in FX.

Yes, the 10-20mm will be wider on the D90.  I can't comment about distortion etc as I haven't tried either of these lenses.

The 85mm won't really produce more bokeh on a DX sensor vs an FX sensor because of the crop factor.  In fact, the opposite is true.  Since FX doesn't have the magnification factor, you now have to get closer to your subject to get the same composition as you would have in DX.  Getting closer to a subject, makes the depth of field more shallow (all else held equal).

If you are talking about other effects such as compression resulting from an 85mm being equivalent to approx 127.5mm on a DX sensor, then that is a myth as well.  Going from FX to DX, merely crops the image.  You are still dealing with the same glass but are merely taking the center of the image.  You do not get the compression benefit as if you would have used a 127.5mm lens on an FX camera.

To compare, try taking a picture with the a 200mm lens on a DX camera (this will give you an angle of view similar to 300mm) and a real 300mm lens on an FX camera.  The compression will be much different.
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Re: D700, will it's price drop? Opinions needed...
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2009, 08:53:08 AM »
Sir Jordan,  i might also consider this.  however,  what are the other things that i will miss besides the telephoto reach?

d300 vs d700 + 80-200

on wide end naman,  d90 + 10-20 sigma,. compared to 18-35 on d700.  sigma will be wider right?

i know fx produces better bokeh but  wont the 85mm produce more bokeh because of the 1.5 crop?   


For me, the reach is the only thing I miss. And as Psynic said, you'll also miss the versatile and lightweight DX lenses, especially when traveling.

Sigma may be wider a bit, as compared to an approximate 12mm DX equivalent field of view of the 18-35 on the D700. But I tried out the widest ends of the 14-24 and 18-200 on the D300, same position, and the 14-24 yielded a wider view, even if it should be behaving like a 21mm in DX. I'll try it again next time. :)
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Re: D700, will it's price drop? Opinions needed...
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2009, 12:19:37 PM »
Actually the real reason why I like to go for the D700 is Hi ISO Performance... ISO 3200 is clean enough to actually use.

With my D90 I was happy with my AFS-50mm (though I sometimes almost fall of the cliff to take pictures, you know what I mean), in fact I got so used to it, that I pratically left the kit lens 18-105VR practically unused.

I bought the 18-200VR, and haven't really used it it yet.
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Re: D700, will it's price drop? Opinions needed...
« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2009, 08:43:38 PM »
Actually the real reason why I like to go for the D700 is Hi ISO Performance... ISO 3200 is clean enough to actually use.

The great thing with the D700 is that as long as you get your white balance right, high ISO shots are great.

It's funny how you get so used to its high ISO capabilities that you take it for granted at some point...until one day you use someone else's D300 or lesser body.

 
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Re: D700, will it's price drop? Opinions needed...
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2009, 11:55:16 AM »
I always shoot raw, so I get to change WB after :P

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