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Need some advise on 70-200 lens
« on: June 05, 2006, 12:40:56 PM »
Hi, need some advise on lens choices... I was going to get a Canon 70-200 L f4 lens, however after looking at the f2.8 (w/o IS) version, mejo napa-isip ako kung ano sa dalawa kukunin ko. Should I start with the f4 then sell it afterwards or should i just wait and save up for an f2.8? I basically want to hone my skills in portraits.... is the f4 lens good enough or talagang mabibitin lang ako?

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Need some advise on 70-200 lens
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Re: Need some advise
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2006, 01:19:15 PM »
As the L lenses' devaluation is quite slow, you can go with either f/4 then sell it or just wait for the f/2.8. It's just a matter of whether you need it soon or not. I personally would go for waiting.

The f/4 version is great. You can ask around or read reviews if you want further comments. However, those that are used to lenses with bigger apertures will be sorely missing the 2.8 aperture available on the more costly version. Besides the additional amount of light, there is also the bokeh to consider.

Do remember though that the lenses mentioned are 112-320mm equivalents when used on a camera with a 1.6x crop (20D, 30D, 350D, 300D). Although it's still good to use for portraits, you might need more space for you to back up.

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Re: Need some advise
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2006, 01:52:07 PM »
Hm.

Read this site http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/index.php?cat=45:)

The site does great reviews on lenses (zoom and prime).

Also, if you're concentrating on portraits, consider 50 mm f1.8 and 85 mm f1.8.  :o

The lenses you mentioned are wonderful lenses. I'm consider the f4L myself. But, maybe you should just save for the 2.8? A bigger aperture is crucial if taking photos indoors (specially in sports photography).

But then, since you're focusing on portraiture, then read the reviews on the prime lenses I mentioned above (50mm and 85mm).

FYI, if you read the site, the f4L lens is one of the most coveted I think (because of its value-for-money factor). It's one of the most afforable L lenses. But if you had the funding, then go for f2.8!  ;D

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Re: Need some advise
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2006, 05:02:05 PM »
If you can afford the 2.8 then go for it. saves you the headache and the itch of moving to a faster lens. Also, though you want to do portraits, you just don't know if you'll feel the itch to do some indoor sports, which is more likely to happend in the future. :)
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Re: Need some advise
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2006, 06:39:33 PM »
Xanch I'm transferring this to Measurebating where it belongs. The POLL you placed is also a non Photography related subject and has no bearing on your query. I 've also changed your title to be more specific on what you are asking.

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Re: Need some advise on 70-200 lens
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2006, 07:22:28 PM »
Hi guys, thanks for your advises. I guess the saying "patience is a virtue" would definitely apply in my dilema. I've decided to wait it out until i get more funds for a 2.8 Oh and Leah, i've checked out the primes you mentioned, i do have a 50mm 1.8 and it truly captures sharp portraits... as for the 85mm well, i guess i'll dwell in buying that when i have truly developed my portrait skills. I guess diversity in lens application would suit my needs for now...thus a 70-200 lens.

Cheers guys!c ;D

Oh and sorry bout the poll.... wasn't really sure how that worked (now i know)... noob here  ;D

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Re: Need some advise on 70-200 lens
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2006, 07:47:41 AM »
i'm also into the F4 fever ;D it's cheaper & has good reviews. it's also lightweight that i can bring it around unlike the f2.8s. heavier by weight & by cost :)
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Re: Need some advise on 70-200 lens
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2006, 10:03:11 AM »
F4 fever? Pang Meteor Garden a :P hehe!

I got a 70-200/4 at a great price (thanks Aly), and I've been happy with it so far. Fast autofocus, light, and very sharp wide open. Medyo nahirapan ako indoors, but by boosting the ISO and leaning against something stable I was able to get sharp pics naman when I shot an indoor concert last weekend (Chippy Gimikada).

It'll be a few years pa siguro before I upgrade... (to a 2.8 IS) :D
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Re: Need some advise on 70-200 lens
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2006, 05:32:49 PM »
here's my advice..

both are great lens... pero syempre nothing beats a fast lens..

if buying the f2.8 version means waiting for less than 3-4 months then wait till you can afford the 2.8 version..
but if buying the 2.8 version means waiting for more than mentioned above.. get the f4 version.. you will goin to miss a lot of shots in 4 months.. sayang opportunity to shot.




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Re: Need some advise on 70-200 lens
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2006, 08:20:46 AM »
As with any lens choice, decide first what you are going to shoot the most. I made the mistake of getting the 70-200/4 when I actually wanted to focus on sports (indoor mostly)... had a very difficult time getting good shots and ended up using a 50 1.8 most of the time... later on sold it, got myself a 2.8 (non-IS)... very happy with it...

decide what you will shoot mostly... then decide if its worth the wait... :)

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Re: Need some advise on 70-200 lens
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2006, 08:37:32 AM »
I'd save up for the best lens there is in its class (i.e. 70-200 f2.8 IS), only because that's what you'll end up with over time. It comes out cheaper in the long run since you avoid the depreciation costs that come with an interim solution (i.e. f4).  Good lenses hold value.  We have a steady second hand market out there.  You may want to consider buying second hand.  Given the prohibitive cost of high quality glass, owners preserve its value by taking good care of them.

But whatever you decide, use the lens and take pics.  Its one way that this costly passion evens things out.





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Re: Need some advise on 70-200 lens
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2006, 02:21:58 PM »
good post notarius, keeping track of your responses and it seems invaluable to members especially to me.

Xanch, go for the f2.8 - i know there is a big price difference but the 1 stop really matters.

It's worth the investment I believe and far better in the long run.


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Re: Need some advise on 70-200 lens
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2006, 04:06:31 PM »
If funds permit I would say and if you are willing to spend...... get the best you can afford.

Both the f4 and f2.8 are great lenses and have thier own pros and cons (just check out some review sites.... bigat, bilis, etc.).

But if you notice..... some have sold their 70-200L f4 for the f2.8 IS or non-IS (including me).... but I have yet to see someone who sold thier f2.8 for an f4 in this group.  ;D
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