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Re: focal range gap question about my two lens combo
« Reply #40 on: December 15, 2008, 09:28:26 PM »
best combo w a 5Dm2
17-40 L ; 28-300 L (instead of the 70-200 L)
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Re: focal range gap question about my two lens combo
« Reply #40 on: December 15, 2008, 09:28:26 PM »

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Re: focal range gap question about my two lens combo
« Reply #41 on: December 15, 2008, 09:31:16 PM »
best combo w a 5Dm2
17-40 L ; 28-300 L (instead of the 70-200 L)
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Hmm I don't hear much about the 28-300mm.. but I'll do some research on it! thanks!

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Re: focal range gap question about my two lens combo
« Reply #42 on: December 15, 2008, 10:02:20 PM »
I agree you're better off doing your own research.
Try this site http://www.the-digital-picture.com/ for reviews of different lenses. Take your pick.

Oh BTW, good luck with diving straight into full frame.
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Re: focal range gap question about my two lens combo
« Reply #43 on: December 15, 2008, 11:39:34 PM »
i'm trying out the 17-40L + 70-200 2.8 on the 5Dmk2 too. i was planning on the 24-70L + 70-200 2.8 but i got the chance to grabe a 17-40 for cheap. :D
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Re: focal range gap question about my two lens combo
« Reply #44 on: December 21, 2008, 04:46:29 PM »
You should first focus on which you would cover the most..
17-40 and 70-200 this would certainly do for landscapes, portraits, sports..
but the 24-70 range is best for indoor and events and family gatherings..

My suggestion is get a 24-105 you'll see the range is sufficient to cover all your desired activities..
Then just buy additional lens as you go along. In this way you'll always have something "new" instead of buying them all at once and all your gear gets old at the same time.

There's always someone interested with something so letting go of your unwanted/unused lens or dslr is easy if the price is right.
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Re: focal range gap question about my two lens combo
« Reply #45 on: December 21, 2008, 07:28:05 PM »
for a 5d or any FF cam in my style 24mm is wide enough so my 24-70 to 70-200 fits me well, though I would like to have a 17-40 just to complete the whole 17-200mm range :)

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Re: focal range gap question about my two lens combo
« Reply #46 on: December 21, 2008, 07:40:20 PM »
for a 5d or any FF cam in my style 24mm is wide enough so my 24-70 to 70-200 fits me well, though I would like to have a 17-40 just to complete the whole 17-200mm range :)

Albert, 16-35 ka naaaaa..... Heheheh! :)

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Re: focal range gap question about my two lens combo
« Reply #47 on: December 21, 2008, 07:52:44 PM »
Albert, 16-35 ka naaaaa..... Heheheh! :)

Ku additional wishlist lang yun :) no more money since the latest purchase, still looking for cash para maka-kuha ng grip and extra battery

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Re: focal range gap question about my two lens combo
« Reply #48 on: December 21, 2008, 07:57:17 PM »
Ku additional wishlist lang yun :) no more money since the latest purchase, still looking for cash para maka-kuha ng grip and extra battery

Ahhh..  Hehe!  Sige Albert, kumpletuhin mo na yung trinity pag nagkabudget na! :) 


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Re: focal range gap question about my two lens combo
« Reply #49 on: December 22, 2008, 08:00:22 AM »
You should first focus on which you would cover the most..
17-40 and 70-200 this would certainly do for landscapes, portraits, sports..
but the 24-70 range is best for indoor and events and family gatherings..

My suggestion is get a 24-105 you'll see the range is sufficient to cover all your desired activities..
Then just buy additional lens as you go along. In this way you'll always have something "new" instead of buying them all at once and all your gear gets old at the same time.

There's always someone interested with something so letting go of your unwanted/unused lens or dslr is easy if the price is right.


I agree. You can get the 24-105 first. Then pag ayaw mo na, you can sell it to me. hehehehehe.

Seriously, when I started and I prepared money for the hobby, I bought tons of stuff. Now, what I would want to eventually end up is one UWA and the 24-105. I think what even helped me decide was my 18-55. In my own opnion, maybe you should first have some basis of what you would actually be needing..at the end of the day, money is still money right?

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Re: focal range gap question about my two lens combo
« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2009, 11:21:14 PM »
I appreciate all your advice and all of them were truly helpful. I decided to go with the 24-70mm just to be safe. However, I chose the canon route instead  ;D Thanks a lot guys!  ;D

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Re: focal range gap question about my two lens combo
« Reply #51 on: January 09, 2009, 04:26:10 PM »
sir, now that you've decided to get the 24-70, any feedbacks from your experience?

and what are you planning for your 2nd lens? (as i'm sticking to the topic here) :)

i started out with the 18-200mm + 50mm 1.8 combo. an all-rounder + a cheap/fantastic prime. after several months, i found that my photos would normally involve people (parties, gatherings, social events, etc) thereby making me decide on a 24-70 just recently. i'll be playing with the 24-70 this weekend and look forward to a very satisfied lens selection at this time.

hopefully, you would find your combo lens after you've played with your 24-70.

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Re: focal range gap question about my two lens combo
« Reply #52 on: January 09, 2009, 07:55:45 PM »
sir, now that you've decided to get the 24-70, any feedbacks from your experience?

and what are you planning for your 2nd lens? (as i'm sticking to the topic here) :)

i started out with the 18-200mm + 50mm 1.8 combo. an all-rounder + a cheap/fantastic prime. after several months, i found that my photos would normally involve people (parties, gatherings, social events, etc) thereby making me decide on a 24-70 just recently. i'll be playing with the 24-70 this weekend and look forward to a very satisfied lens selection at this time.

hopefully, you would find your combo lens after you've played with your 24-70.

I now really really want a 70-200mm.. 70mm, in my opinion, is way too short! Furthermore, I don't think I will need an ultra wide angle lens since I don't use 24mm so often.. Pictures shot with ultra wide lenses, found in sites like flickr, are so nice to look at but in reality, situations like these don't happen very often. This is of course based on my experience. I am even considering selling my 24-70 in order to get a 70-200.. If anyone is interested in trading, please pm me.

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Re: focal range gap question about my two lens combo
« Reply #53 on: January 13, 2009, 10:42:02 AM »
hi!

as the others have said, 30mm is not a huge gap. when i was shooting film, i had the following lenses: 24mm, 28mm, 50mm, 135mm and a 100-300 zoom. did i miss any shots because of the gaps between 28 mm and 50 mm? nope. what about the gap between 50 and 135 mm? nope, did not notice that much either. i did not carry the 100-300 all the time. it was heavy. besides, it was a 4.0 lens, not that useful when the light levels drop and you had only iso 100 (or 200) film. i wasn't using digital then, and i didn't like the grain of iso 400 film.

i guess the point of this is that you have to start with one lens... in your case, you could start with two, the 17-40 and the 70-200. shoot with these lenses first. if ever you need to go beyond 40mm, try zooming with your feet. subject to near? move back a bit. subject too far, even for your 200mm? lapit uli.... walk a bit.

just to put things in perspective....i shot with a 50mm for more than a year before acquiring my first zoom. it was great learning experience. if the subject was too far, i'd move closer. if i was shooting a group, i'd move back as far as i could. there are practical limitations, of course... (bodyguard between you and your subject, a wall preventing you from moving back further).. on the other hand, dito na lumalabas yung diskarte mo as a photographer. (i.e...."please compress a bit ... YES! THAT'S IT!!!" or "brod, kunan ko lang si madame senator... one shot lang").

if the light's not bright enough and, for some reason, i cannot use flash, i'd hold the camera as steady as i could and wait for gaps/pauses in the subject's action. this is a good time to practice your "sniper" skills. remember... ISO 100 film, not auto ISO digital. hehehe....

now, if after using these two lenses (17-40, 70-200) for a few hundred (thousand?) shots covering the subjects you like to photograph, you notice that you need another lens to cover a specific focal length you like, that is when you buy a new lens.

come to think of it, you can always find:
- subjects that are too far for the 200mm
- subjects that are too wide/big for the 17mm
- subjects that move too fast, that you'll need high shutter speeds... in low light
- situations where you'll need 6 or even 8 fps
- situations where you'll need 1.8, 1.4 or even 1.2

question is... are these the subjects you like?

in the meantime, use what you have. start with a simple set and acquire when needed. 

oh yeah... one  parting shot...photography is about capturing images that stir emotions and leave an imprint on those who view them. it's not about the gear. it's never about the gear. the gear is just there to help you capture your vision.

happy shooting.
try to get things right before firing the shutter. it's harder to fix things later using software. you're better off doing something else... like taking more pictures. =)

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