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is it ok to combine a screw-in hoya ND400 & a CPL filter
« on: May 14, 2008, 05:15:20 PM »
im planning to buy both filters, I'm just curious if theres gonna be a problem when you screw this filters together to a EFs 10-22mm.

Did anyone of you guys tried doin this?

its a noobie question  ;D

tnx ...

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Re: is it ok to combine a screw-in hoya ND400 & a CPL filter
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2008, 05:52:16 PM »
hi.  it is not advisable to use two filters at the  same time. first is that it might cause vignetting kasi your lens is an UWA. 2nd, opticaly you wont benefit anything if you combine an ND filter and a CPL.  Magkaiba kasi purpose nila.  If you combine filters, mas prone ka rin sa flaring.  And last, since you will be using it on a 10-22, make sure the filters are low profile, yung manipis.

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Re: is it ok to combine a screw-in hoya ND400 & a CPL filter
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2008, 07:42:15 PM »
Hi Splak,

I use this combo with a Nikkor 12-24. Put the NDX400 first before the CPL. Be sure to compose before putting on the filters as you cant see anything na. I tried putting the CPL first then the NDX but nag vivignette, probably because the thread on my CPL is only a few mm. I think it will work out with the Canon 10-22 but at 12mm. The CPL works also, if you want to take out the reflection. Problem is, you can see it after youve taken the shot. Tanchahan nalang.

Heres a sample image, taken with both the filters on.




*i took several shots to achieve the reflection i wanted since i cant see a darn thing on the VF.

My friends also do this set-up using a Sigma 10-20 and Canon 10-22mm. Minimal vignetting only. For all its worth, PLEASE do BUY both filters. Im 100% sure you will ;ove them. Specially the NDX400.

Hope this helps...

O.T. Remenber -9 stops plus -3 stops= -12 stops. That would roughly have shutter speed of 10-15 secs using ISO100 f10-16.

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Re: is it ok to combine a screw-in hoya ND400 & a CPL filter
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2008, 10:22:25 PM »
Uy, kung ganyan naman pala ka ganda ang kuha kapag patong patong, ay masubukan na rin nga

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Re: is it ok to combine a screw-in hoya ND400 & a CPL filter
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2008, 10:34:52 PM »

Hindi ko naintindiha yung dinidiscuss nila kasi Im not into filters. Pero hindi naman siguro OT na i-admire yung pictures na kuha using the filters. GREAT SHOTS!

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Re: is it ok to combine a screw-in hoya ND400 & a CPL filter
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2008, 02:22:36 AM »
Like Gid said, you can stack, ND first. With a 9-stop filter, it will go dark. Pretty much like using an IR filter. You might even have to focus first (w/o filters) > set Af to M > then screw the filters on > shoot.

Then you also run into the problem of making the CPL work best, while looking at a very dark VF.

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Re: is it ok to combine a screw-in hoya ND400 & a CPL filter
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2008, 06:20:09 AM »
Thanks for all your replies guys. ;D

Im goin to buy em both na lang and experiment!

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Re: is it ok to combine a screw-in hoya ND400 & a CPL filter
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2008, 07:50:12 AM »
im planning to buy both filters, I'm just curious if theres gonna be a problem when you screw this filters together to a EFs 10-22mm.

Did anyone of you guys tried doin this?

its a noobie question  ;D

tnx ...

  It will vignette at 10mm. At 14mm or so, maybe you'll be safe. The 10-22 can't handle 2 filters even if both are thin without vignetting.

  At Sagada last year, I used my CPL with a cokin holder. That works. No vignette even at 10mm. The CPL was the screw type while a ND was used after it.

  FYI, you get funky skies (not good to my eyes) with CPLs in the 10-22. Water, and other stuff, it seems ok. 

 
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Re: is it ok to combine a screw-in hoya ND400 & a CPL filter
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2008, 03:30:07 PM »
ic... I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for the reply

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