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Sony A7II (5 axis IS Full Frame)
« on: November 20, 2014, 02:00:14 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svbUXedWsbA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eikcKu89fDs

http://www.dcfever.com/news/readnews.php?id=11952

I guess this has the newer 24 MP sensor similar to the D750?

It's interesting that the A7R II was not announced as well, as that A7r could really make use of that 5 axis IS especially with the shutter slap issue above 300mm focal length
It will be even more amazing for videograhpers to have the A7s with 5 axis IS

The camera now weighs 599g, though it is still smaller than the 6D or D750, the weight advantage is not as pronounced as before as the A7 II is now less than 200g lighter

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« on: November 20, 2014, 02:00:14 PM »

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Re: Sony A7II (5 axis IS Full Frame)
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2014, 10:05:44 PM »
Dito lang muna to habang nasa speculative stage pa lang.

This sounds like an interesting update...

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Re: Sony A7II (5 axis IS Full Frame)
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2014, 10:30:54 PM »
Sorry Dan, I was moving this around to and forth ....na announced na pala!!! Kahapon rumor pa lang to...bigla naannounced today!!! Yehey, tutoo na.

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Re: Sony A7II (5 axis IS Full Frame)
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2014, 08:04:46 AM »
I understand the confusion Doc, the A7 II was only officially announced in Japan and nowhere else in an official capacity. I too was looking at the usual sites like Dpreview for their usual hands-on preview when a new camwera is announced but found nothing. Curious why Sony Japan was the only announcer, perhaps they could or did not send out early review samples.

The 5 axis IS is nice, but will it be as effective with the bigger 35mm sensor?

I like the new grip and shutter button placement, the mark I A7 series bodies had things scrounged up too tightly, especially for someone with larger hands

The A7 II also seems to now have the new S Log 2 of the A7s, as well as a new codec.

the Sony A7 series seems to be the most competent system for videographers now, with the A7s for low light video, and the A7 II for everything else depending on how good the 5 axis IS is for video

I'm eager to see what Canon will put in their 5D Mk IV to regain the video crowd it has seemingly lost to the Panasonic and Sony salvo

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Re: Sony A7II (5 axis IS Full Frame)
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2014, 08:59:07 AM »
There are things behind the curtain that we may never see. I am not sure why this is Japan only edition initially. Sony is a struggling company and it is maybe a huge company but it is on the edge of extinction. Then just few days ago Japan went into recession. Suddenly without warning the IBIS suddenly is with Sony. Many are suspecting that this is an Oly tech. Did Oly give it away to help Sony? There is a possibility. Oly is a Sony subsidiary as we know months ago that Sony bought some portion of it. Competing companies give away a portion of their tech to rival company if that company is sinking. That is just to save it. Japanese mind set is different from the rest of the world. They won't cut each other's throat. Like what Canon did to Nikon when it was sinking, Canon handed to Nikon the AF-S tech secret . The Nikkor 80-200 AF-S was in the market briefly. Of course Japanese companies won't admit that. We can only speculate and we can dismiss it as a mere speculation. Nobody knows. However, as a user I have a high expectation that the IBIS will work on Sony mirror less body. It will usher a new era and hope Sony will rise from the ashes.

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Re: Sony A7II (5 axis IS Full Frame)
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2014, 08:13:23 AM »
Caveat Emptor to anyone interested in the camera, I was told by my favorite retailer in HK that like the Olympus 5 axis, you can not clean the sensor by yourself and it will need to be done at the service center. Apparently they will coat the sensor with a gel and then vacuum the gel to clean the sensor.
It's even more problematic as the A7's are well known for how susceptible to dust they are.
Since the local Sony service center for cameras is still in Balintawak, I ended up just getting the Canon Ph XMas sale on the 6D, which is suprisingly just 170g heavier than the A7 II, and with the EF 40mm/2.8 pancake only weighing 10g more than the FE 35/2.8 but at a quarter of the price

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Re: Sony A7II (5 axis IS Full Frame)
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2015, 11:40:12 PM »
The 5 axis seems to work well with adapted lenses after a FW update.

Here is one review:

http://www.sonyalphalab.com/product-review/sony-alpha-a7-ii-rolling-review-best-full-frame-mirrorless-camera/

The 5 axis stabilizer is a very nice selling point.


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Re: Sony A7II (5 axis IS Full Frame)
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2015, 09:55:16 PM »
Sony supposedly bought stock in Olympus, therefore I'm led to believe the image stabilization system of the Sony A7 comes from  licensing the patents of Olympus.

That said, I'm losing my excitement with the Sony A7 series of cameras, since the advantages of the mirrorless form factor seems to be compromised by its  relatively bulky native lenses. Add to that an average  battery endurance of less than 400 shots per charge.

It would have been great if the lenses were the size of the micro 4/3rds, but they're not.

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Re: Sony A7II (5 axis IS Full Frame)
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2015, 08:54:38 AM »
Sony supposedly bought stock in Olympus, therefore I'm led to believe the image stabilization system of the Sony A7 comes from  licensing the patents of Olympus.

That said, I'm losing my excitement with the Sony A7 series of cameras, since the advantages of the mirrorless form factor seems to be compromised by its  relatively bulky native lenses. Add to that an average  battery endurance of less than 400 shots per charge.

It would have been great if the lenses were the size of the micro 4/3rds, but they're not.
I've been shooting the x100s for almost everything. I am used to slow AF , poor battery mileage and lousy power indicator. I wish I could have a better camera in A7 series. Since every time I go back to my DSLR I feel a great sigh of relief. I am excited again with the in body stabilization of the a7 II but bigger and heavier lenses, not so good AF (no matter how they claim that it is 30 percent faster),difficulty in changing focus points  are downer to me.I don't understand why the alpha series like the a6000 and a7 has AF points that is difficult to fiddle. The X100s is not that difficult although you need to push a button twice. The newer Fuji iteration have AF point selection tremendously improved. Sony can solve that quirks by adding a touch screen which they did not on this new model. I think in my humble opinion it is a great miss opportunity by Sony for not listening to their users feed back.They have an excellent touch screen technology...but why Sony? Olympus and Panasonic are better cam to use but then for the rest of us who wants  bigger sensor and better IQ, we might wait a little longer. I am staying with Nikon for a few more years. I know Sony in few years will shoot down CaNikon once they can figure out all of these shortcomings.Nikon can still surprise us once they will apply their Nikon 1 technology to the bigger sensor. If not goodbye Nikon, hello Sony.

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Re: Sony A7II (5 axis IS Full Frame)
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2015, 01:14:40 PM »
For me, the big issue about the A7II is that it now weighs 599g with the batteries, compared that say to a D750 which weights 750g. That's only 151g, when you hold them together it's not much.
For anyone looking at the Sony's, I'd much rather go for the A7s which just has some amazing Hi ISO capabilities.
The A7s has built in IS anyways, by letting you go into ridiculous Hi ISOs with minimal noise to insure fast shutter speeds to combat motion blur

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