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The Nikon d800/800E
« on: December 19, 2011, 02:01:24 PM »
...will you buy it!?  :o :o :o

ako, pagiisipan ko pa. if it is sold around 120K baka pwede pa  ::) will sell the DX dynamite and the D700 first ::)

why i want to have it? FX video na abot kaya from Nikon  8) and just because i wanted it.

how much do you guys think that the D800 will sell for? the D700 was sold at around 116K when it was new. ewan ko lang ba kung umabot ng 125K yan.

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The Nikon d800/800E
« on: December 19, 2011, 02:01:24 PM »

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Re: The Nikon d800/800E
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2011, 02:17:19 PM »
More than $3000

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Re: The Nikon d800/800E
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2011, 04:39:02 PM »
More than $3000

I think it will be the same ballpark as the D700 was released which is around $3k.

This makes me wonder if the IQ of the D700 is pretty good, how much improvement am I going to experience with the newer camera? I no longer shoot at higher ISO level since I always shoot with flash. I am very hesitant to give up my dearly beloved D700. 

I am more inclined to get a Sony for video and use my existing lenses. Either way, the new Nikon offerings are not YET that convincing for me to get one since the D700 does a pretty good job for family pictures and formal events. Everyone has their own cup of tea, but the D700 remains my camera of choice. :o 8)

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Re: The Nikon d800/800E
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2011, 04:51:27 PM »
Either way, the new Nikon offerings are not YET that convincing for me to get one since the D700 does a pretty good job for family pictures and formal events. Everyone has their own cup of tea, but the D700 remains my camera of choice. :o 8)
It really brings a smile on my face Glenn...the smile you know has a double meaning!! That will lead to scenario, what if it turns out to be a convincing Nikon d700 replacement? You can always pass it on to your son or just collect it. A family picture with your d80/d700/d700 + the d800 will be a sight to behold... ;D ;D ;D .

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Re: The Nikon d800/800E
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2011, 07:30:05 PM »
Nakita ko itong post sa isang forum. Sangayon ako dito:


"Nikon drastically changed the Nikon product lineup when it produced the D700.  Having the same sensor as the top end of the line D3, it's disadvantage of having less than 100% viewfinder was offset by its having a built-in flash with that very useful wireless flash commander.  It also had a dust shaker which the D3 did not have.  Being lighter and smaller, some even preferred it to the bigger D3.  All these plus the D700 selling for much less than the D3 made it a must-buy for those who can afford it.

The mixture of well-balanced feature and price to value made the D700 a market-success and just as important among its owners or would-be owners, they want a more capable successor model to replace it.  The D700 was never about a high-megapixel camera but rather, a capable moderate resolution sensor with great colors and dynamic range with good low-light performance.

But given the specs of the D800, it is not a true D700-replacement.  For one, it will not have the same sensor as the expected D4.  Instead, it will have a high-resolution sensor that is higher than even the D3x.  This very high resolution can only come at the expense of better low-light performance and while the D800 will be good, it could be better still had it come with a lower-resolution sensor.

Nikon is playing a dangerous game by not giving its customer base something that its customer base has been made to expect and also want.  While there will be some who will welcome the D800 in its current high-resolution configuration, many more will want a true successor to the D700.  Because the customer knows that Nikon could easily do this but resolutely refuses to, there will be disenchantment among its customer base.  Given the easily portability of the Nikkor lenses to other camera brands and formats such as the NEX and the m4/3, I expect many Nikon shooters to also add these other options as there is very little penalty for straying outside the Nikon ecosystem.  

For me, the D700 remains and will likely continue to remain one of my main camera body for a long time.  I will  be keeping my D700.  I am also angry that Nikon will likely force me to get a Nikon D4 if I want good performance in low light.  I am angry because the D4 is bigger, heavier, more expensive despite having more more features because I do not need these features in the first place.   I have already gotten back at Nikon by getting a Sony NEX-5N for video instead of a Nikon D5100.  The Sony NEX-5N with its full manual control for video and peaking support for manual focus is not only better than the D5100, it also cost less.

Speaking specifically about the D800, this body will be much more demanding of its lenses than the D700 is.  Many D3x owners here have already recounted how costly getting the D3x has been in terms of getting better lenses that eventually cost more than the already expensive D3x.  The upgrade did not stop there and they also had to get better legs and heads to squeeze out the benefit of the D3x.  Those who currently speak of their lenses being still good for the D7000 do not take into consideration how their corners will look like when they use the same lenses all the way to the edge of its image circle on a high resolution full-frame sensor.  Unless needed for big prints, these people will get a rude awakening when they compare their images with those  that they can currently take with their D700.

This is not to say that the D800 will not be a good camera.  I am sure that it will be that.  But the high resolution will not translate to an improvement in its images unless one also upgrades the optics, support and shooting technique.  Moreover, it will not likely improve on the D700 low-light performance.  It is a poor trade-up as far as I am concerned."
« Last Edit: December 19, 2011, 07:34:06 PM by MLG123 »

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Re: The Nikon d800/800E
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2011, 08:04:14 PM »
how much do you guys think that the D800 will sell for? the D700 was sold at around 116K when it was new. ewan ko lang ba kung umabot ng 125K yan.

D700 was sold for 145k when it first came out here. 

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Re: The Nikon d800/800E
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2011, 08:49:28 PM »
nice read...

wow! umabot ba ng ganyan yan!?  :o :o :o i recall na 116K yun pinaka mahal na natanong ko non, bumaba pa pala price niya sa lagay nyang yan  ::)

the article said it right. for me, high ISO is now more important than megapixels. seriously, i am still happy with my D700 and D7000 combo. but i always wanted a D700 that can shoot amazing video and that is the D800...maybe at around june next year mag stabilize na price nyan. at dun na ako bibili  ::)

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Re: The Nikon d800/800E
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2011, 09:00:56 PM »
If the D800 is 36Mp it will be the cheapest panoramic camera. You could do some serious cropping and retain enough resolution to make acceptably large prints. For now I'll keep stitching. The 20"x60" prints I get from my 12Mp camera are absolutely gorgeous.

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Re: The Nikon d800/800E
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2011, 09:58:57 PM »
it will be my 1st FX camera, sweet  ;D

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Re: The Nikon d800/800E
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2011, 10:09:18 PM »
I can't wait  :D

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Re: The Nikon d800/800E
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2011, 10:11:15 PM »
maganda yan, FX DX combo. looking at the samples from nikonrumors, mukhang decent ang high ISO ng D800, pero i will wait for the real testing.

for me, i see the D800 as a D7000 na FX. it seems that the D800 will be smaller than the D700, so it may be sized between the D700 and D7000. if nikon can make an FX camera the size of a D7000 and use the same grip then that is an amazing engineering achievement! ang sarap dalhin ito kahit saan.  :o :o :o

following nikon's product philosophy and trend when upgrading camera bodies, i can see that the D800 will be significant. i am sure that the D800 and D4 will have features that have not been announced yet. perhaps an amazing AF while video is recording,etc.

buti hindi kayo naapektuhan masyado dyan ni sendong, OT.

to the D700 owners, will you guys sell your cameras and get the D800?

i am contemplating on selling the D7000 and the D700 in favor of the D800 if it turns out to be too compelling.

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Re: The Nikon d800/800E
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2011, 10:42:48 PM »
Kung wala namang improvement ang D800 sa high-ISO, sa D700 pa rin ako.  Mas gusto ko rin na dalawang ang bodies kaysa sa isa kaya hindi ko ibebenta ang D700 at D7000.  Kung maliit lang din ang pagkakaiba ng D4 sa D3s, baka hindi makakabenta si Nikon sa akin next year.
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Re: The Nikon d800/800E
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2011, 10:48:07 PM »
to the D700 owners, will you guys sell your cameras and get the D800?

i am contemplating on selling the D7000 and the D700 in favor of the D800 if it turns out to be too compelling.

I will be keeping my existing cameras.  I was planning on selling my D700 before, but that idea has been squashed after so many disappointing announcements and predictions from NR.  >:(  

The D700 is just the right camera for me. I've been using it for 3 years now and it still delivers great images. Granted that the lenses, lighting and my skill have improved a little bit but it is just a stellar camera for an amateur.  Even if I was a pro wedding photographer, the D700 will be sufficient for still images.  For longer reach or macro photography, the D7000 will be my choice.  

My interest in video has increased a little bit lately, so the compact Sony or Panasonic has caught some of my attention when it comes to this area.

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Re: The Nikon d800/800E
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2011, 10:52:28 PM »
Kung wala namang improvement ang D800 sa high-ISO, sa D700 pa rin ako.  Mas gusto ko rin na dalawang ang bodies kaysa sa isa kaya hindi ko ibebenta ang D700 at D7000.  Kung maliit lang din ang pagkakaiba ng D4 sa D3s, baka hindi makakabenta si Nikon sa akin next year.

I used to shoot at higher ISO level before between 3200 to 6400 just because I can and to explore the capabilities of the camera. Now, I rarely shoot above ISO 1600 since I shoot with flash even on broad daylight.   :o 

The Nikon 200mm f2 VRII looks more appealing to me than the D3s or D4.  8)

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Re: The Nikon d800/800E
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2011, 09:19:12 AM »
for sure baka ma adopt ni d800 yung mga ibang technology na nilagay nila sa nikon 1 series..

sana if d800 comes out, ma release narin yung cheapo 85mm 1.8G.  :)

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Re: The Nikon d800/800E
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2011, 10:03:21 AM »
looking forward to the upgrade to full frame when it does come out. but it all depends if on its low-light capability. newer doesn't always mean better (the nex-5n vs nex-7 sensor is a good example).

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Re: The Nikon d800/800E
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2011, 11:07:15 AM »
Estimated price of $4000 - Thom Hogan
Estimate lang naman pero mahal pa din.

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Re: The Nikon d800/800E
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2011, 12:05:54 PM »
i will wait for the D800 & 5DM3 to come out. compare their specs & output, from there i will base my decision if it's really time to jump ship.

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Re: The Nikon d800/800E
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2011, 01:28:58 PM »
I hope Nikon fixes their retarded interface/controls in the D800.

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Re: The Nikon d800/800E
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2011, 05:39:46 PM »
If they make the Nikon D800's ISO performance really good, wouldn't more people think twice about buying a flash unit?

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