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Re: A Guide for upgrading cameras for the Intermediate user
« Reply #80 on: May 03, 2010, 09:21:34 AM »
what does it mean that the GH1's codec is not mature. or as some has said it's not robust enough?
It actually seems like a very good hybrid camera based on specs.

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Re: A Guide for upgrading cameras for the Intermediate user
« Reply #80 on: May 03, 2010, 09:21:34 AM »

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Re: A Guide for upgrading cameras for the Intermediate user
« Reply #81 on: May 04, 2010, 11:42:19 AM »
I am loving this thread!  :)
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Re: A Guide for upgrading cameras for the Intermediate user
« Reply #82 on: May 06, 2010, 09:41:27 AM »
what does it mean that the GH1's codec is not mature. or as some has said it's not robust enough?
It actually seems like a very good hybrid camera based on specs.

  It is a very good camera. In fact, it is way ahead the rest of the pack. However, it's codec and it's dsp will have to be upgraded. The common complaint in the GH1 is the artifacts in 1080p. And you notice that it can't do 30p on 1080. That has got to be a dsp limitation, and likely the codec needs improvement too.

  When you read h.264, it does not mean any company will implement it the same. Let's look at jpegs to make things simpler. If you notice, some jpgs are very good and some jpegs are "rough." This is very true in the past, ca 2000-2002. So, even if you have a jpg file w/c is a standard by itself, it does not mean that the manufacturer has a good jpg engines (or codec) that makes a good jpeg file. Granting the dsp and the sensor are good, even if we use today's sensors and dsp design, a bad codec can ruin the jpeg file/output. In short, even if there is a standard, it's still up to the manufacturers skill to make good

 This is the same for video. If you have the canon hv-20, for example, compare that to the hv-30 or the hv-40, you still have the same sensor, even the same dsp (as far as I know it's still the same by hv-30), but the hv-30 images/video is cleaner in low light. That's what a good codec does. In the early years, 2005 or so, the early AVCHD codecs were not as good as today. Many said, you need 24mpbs to get it to be as good as HDV or mpeg2 high def. But as the years rolled by, AVCHD's codec got better that the 24mpbs of HDV is the equal of a 7-12mpbs of AVCHD. By 2008-2009, most say that the 24mpbs AVCHD is on par with 35 to even 50mpbs mpeg2 or other more sophisticated codecs. What has happened is that even if AVCHD is spec'd at 24mpbs tops, since it got better, even the lower bit rates are on par with the older HDV at 24mpbs. And AVCHD's highest bit rate can compete even with the pro versions of HD found in Sony, and Panasonic. This is what it means that the codec is not mature or mature. The standard is the same, but the way the programmers implement them, makes the difference.


  Of course, the codec is hardwired in the dsp or at times it can be upgraded in firmware. You rarely do that with video though. So, when you talk codec, it's usually in the implementation of the dsp. Lest you get lost, that dsp is called DIGIC in canon, and Venus in Panasonic. These support chips (or cpus) do the codec implementation as well as other functions (e.g. AFing, saving to CF/SDHC, adc, etc).

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Re: A Guide for upgrading cameras for the Intermediate user
« Reply #83 on: May 07, 2010, 12:13:58 AM »
Thanks for this thread. Really learned a lot.  :)

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Re: A Guide for upgrading cameras for the Intermediate user
« Reply #84 on: May 08, 2010, 12:30:28 AM »
Nice thread.  I'm currently contemplating on whether to sell my d300s for a d700.  It seems that the sensitivity of the sensors of the FF is pulling me towards it!  Any inputs for this?  I also have a d90 for a 2nd body.

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Re: A Guide for upgrading cameras for the Intermediate user
« Reply #85 on: May 08, 2010, 11:05:35 AM »
I just encountered this thread today. Galing!

I remember myself having my very first camera, a Nikon D60 with a kit lens. No problems encountered whatsoever! Really enjoyed that camera and that was the time I was still learning photography. But then, someone offered me a nice trade to the other side. A 20D with an IS kit lens. Sabi ng mga kilala ko okay daw yun. So I gave it a try since that time I was just starting to invest on equipment.

And so I started saving up and bought myself a Sigma lens and a nifty fifty. I felt so happy with it but then decided to upgrade my body-- a 40D. Until now, I still don't know if it was a good decision but one thing's for sure, I'm really enjoying this 40D  ;D

Now I was able to save up for a UWA along with my nifty fifty. I want a telephoto or maybe a mid-range 2.8 lens. But then I have no money. Sagad sagad na talaga  :'(

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Re: A Guide for upgrading cameras for the Intermediate user
« Reply #86 on: June 06, 2010, 03:58:17 PM »
thanks for this thread! And to the TS of course. I am considering the 7D but I will now wait for the 60D and decide. I wonder when the 60D will be released.

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Re: A Guide for upgrading cameras for the Intermediate user
« Reply #87 on: June 12, 2010, 08:36:53 AM »
I think becoming an intermediate one. Its when you're to lazy to scroll down the menu of your cam. and starting to look for buttons outside your camera for easier access.  ;D

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Re: A Guide for upgrading cameras for the Intermediate user
« Reply #88 on: June 13, 2010, 06:02:04 PM »
     Many thanks for the wisdom sir, your words are an antidote for the Gear Acquisition Syndrome of many. Technology Comparison, Marketing Strategy, even Peer Pressure do make people spend needlessly.

     Blessed are those who can buy anything, but for those of us who have fewer expendable, we still do have choices; entry-level, consumer level, cheaper lenses.

    Thanks for not brushing-off entry level gears, as you have included it many times in your analysis. If only for that one important rule, Rule #3;

     "make the best of what you have"

     Then we're going to have one hell of happy shooters  :)

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Re: A Guide for upgrading cameras for the Intermediate user
« Reply #89 on: June 24, 2010, 02:39:35 AM »
thank you for this article. it really helped me a lot. kudos!

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Re: A Guide for upgrading cameras for the Intermediate user
« Reply #90 on: July 15, 2010, 07:07:51 PM »
TS:  ty po for your articles.  you made me happier and prouder 'coz my 1st SLR is a D90.  more power po sa inyo!

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Re: A Guide for upgrading cameras for the Intermediate user
« Reply #91 on: August 10, 2010, 04:41:37 PM »
here is an upgrade path for nikon users

from Thom Hogan
http://www.bythom.com/upgradepath.htm


I decided to make a similar one for Canon ;)

Canon DSLR Upgrade Guide
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Re: A Guide for upgrading cameras for the Intermediate user
« Reply #92 on: August 28, 2010, 05:50:33 PM »
very very interesting piece to read...
thanks for the advice
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Re: A Guide for upgrading cameras for the Intermediate user
« Reply #93 on: August 30, 2010, 06:18:50 PM »
This is a very informative article. Well done.

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Re: A Guide for upgrading cameras for the Intermediate user
« Reply #94 on: August 31, 2010, 01:14:07 PM »
A very good read. TFS.
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Re: A Guide for upgrading cameras for the Intermediate user
« Reply #95 on: September 10, 2010, 03:19:26 PM »
hi guys newbie here.. a nikon user. when it comes to repairing camera defects tapos wala ng warranty ung unit, alin sa dalawang brand ang mas madaling lapitan at hanapin para maayos at mabigyan ng solusiyon mga slr na may sira canon oh nikon?


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Re: A Guide for upgrading cameras for the Intermediate user
« Reply #96 on: September 23, 2010, 11:23:26 AM »
Thanks! Learned a lot... Worth reading!

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Re: A Guide for upgrading cameras for the Intermediate user
« Reply #97 on: September 29, 2010, 03:49:59 PM »
nice thread, very informative. makes one think about not just upgrading for upgrading's sake. teaches one to maximize the jump in technology as well as getting a good price before upgrading. kudos!

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Re: A Guide for upgrading cameras for the Intermediate user
« Reply #98 on: September 29, 2010, 05:41:12 PM »
A must read thread... for all photogs...
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Re: A Guide for upgrading cameras for the Intermediate user
« Reply #99 on: October 02, 2010, 02:08:55 AM »
Great advise!  Whale done!

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