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Title: Raynox DCR250 or Close-Up filters
Post by: Ramesses on October 23, 2010, 11:43:00 PM
Ram here, new to photography.

I would like to ask if which is better? Raynox DCR250 or Close-Up filters? I don't have much money to invest for a macro lens. For now, I decided that I'll be using the cheaper way to have awesome macro shots. Other alternatives to obtain macro shots? I'm having a hard time using the "reverse macro photography".

My gears are: Nikon d5000, 18-105mm, Prime 1.8 50mm, Kit lens, some reverse rings, extension tubes, etc.

Thanks in advance. :)
Title: Re: Raynox DCR250 or Close-Up filters
Post by: Chip on October 24, 2010, 02:45:36 PM
+1 on this query :)  I have just about the same gear, minus the kitlens, rings and tubes. :)
Title: Re: Raynox DCR250 or Close-Up filters
Post by: Ramesses on October 24, 2010, 09:17:19 PM
Let's wait for the experts, Chip. I hope it won't take that long to have their opinions regarding the cheap macro because I'm very eager to try these kind of techniques.

Follow-up question:
Will I have "vignetting" when I use these filters? In the reverse lens technique, vignetting is present in all of my shots. I'm also having a hard time focusing on my subject, most of my shots are blurry. ???
Title: Re: Raynox DCR250 or Close-Up filters
Post by: gatix on October 24, 2010, 11:41:45 PM
I've tested both the Raynox and some generic closeup filters, I'd say the Raynox is definitely much sharper. I get better magnification with the generic closeups but its not that sharp.

I get vignetting in my Raynox if I zoomed in, i get perfect results on 50mm with an aperture of 7.1.

As for the reverse lens, its best done with kit lenses on its widest focal length (18mm).
Title: Re: Raynox DCR250 or Close-Up filters
Post by: Ramesses on October 25, 2010, 12:53:27 PM
I've tested both the Raynox and some generic closeup filters, I'd say the Raynox is definitely much sharper. I get better magnification with the generic closeups but its not that sharp.

I get vignetting in my Raynox if I zoomed in, i get perfect results on 50mm with an aperture of 7.1.

As for the reverse lens, its best done with kit lenses on its widest focal length (18mm).

Thanks for the reply Gatix. :) Does AF applies when you are using Raynox DCR250? What particular lens do you pair up with it? Last question, where can I buy this lens? It's a hard to find filter here in the Philippines. :-\
Title: Re: Raynox DCR250 or Close-Up filters
Post by: gatix on October 26, 2010, 12:05:44 AM
Silie in this forum sells Raynox filters.

Yes ofcourse, this is another advantage over the reverse lens technique. So far I've paired my Raynox with 18-105mm and a 50mm 1.4. I get vignettes @ 105mm, but its has the best magnification, i just crop lol XD
Title: Re: Raynox DCR250 or Close-Up filters
Post by: norman_aquarius on October 26, 2010, 02:40:23 PM
Raynox 250 is far better, yup, sharper but vignetting is obvious if you zoom it to 105mm kitlens,  but you really have to practice a steady hands and avoid body movements while you focus to prevent blurry images cause by shaking and movements. patience is a must when you're into macro photography using these filters. Some creatures won't cooperate and climate is a factor to consider. But it's really fun once you learn the tricks.   ;)
Title: Re: Raynox DCR250 or Close-Up filters
Post by: timtan on October 26, 2010, 06:49:32 PM
 I love to do macro in the future. I am actually considering buying a nikkor 105mm micro. which gear can get you closer to a subject the 50mm with raynox or the 105 micro? do you have sample shots? thansk!
Title: Re: Raynox DCR250 or Close-Up filters
Post by: Ramesses on October 26, 2010, 10:09:58 PM
Another option, extension tubes. I bought one around P800 in Tayhua and it does not AF. Is there an extension tube that can still AF? Any feedbacks for those?

Thanks for your replies. I really appreciate it. Please, keep it coming! :)
Title: Re: Raynox DCR250 or Close-Up filters
Post by: norman_aquarius on October 27, 2010, 12:47:01 AM
there are extension tube brands that AF but are costly like kenko. And not well spend thought they can't really give you best result in macro. And that amount can be use to other important accessories  ;D 
Title: Re: Raynox DCR250 or Close-Up filters
Post by: gatix on October 27, 2010, 12:51:57 AM
There are extension tubes that can AF, though they're a bit pricey.

If you have money, get the 105 micro. Otherwise the 50mm + Raynox.

Btw, when using the Raynox. I focus by moving the camera not by focusing, i just use the focusing ring for fine focusing only, so I highly recommend to use a camera with a live view function :) But since you're using a D5000, thats not a problem. :)
Title: Re: Raynox DCR250 or Close-Up filters
Post by: norman_aquarius on October 27, 2010, 12:57:39 AM
Here are my raynox samples   ;D

(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae356/norman_aquarius/macro%20sep%2029/DSC_0136.jpg)

(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae356/norman_aquarius/macro%20sep%2029/DSC_0139.jpg)

(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae356/norman_aquarius/macro%20sep%2029/endulge2.jpg)

(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae356/norman_aquarius/macro%20sep%2029/DSC_9643.jpg)

(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae356/norman_aquarius/macro%20sep%2029/DSC_0027.jpg)

(http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae356/norman_aquarius/macro%20sep%2029/bugslife.jpg)
Title: Re: Raynox DCR250 or Close-Up filters
Post by: timtan on October 27, 2010, 12:37:19 PM

If you have money, get the 105 micro. Otherwise the 50mm + Raynox.


Sir,

which of the two will shoot closer?
Title: Re: Raynox DCR250 or Close-Up filters
Post by: Ramesses on October 27, 2010, 02:14:28 PM
I'm still having a hard time choosing between the ff.

Extension tubes that can AF and the Raynox DCR250. I have a 18-55mm Kitlens and a 50mm Prime that I can use for macro. What should I pick between the two? Help! ???

Sorry if I have lots of questions. Ayaw ko lang masayang pera. :-\
Title: Re: Raynox DCR250 or Close-Up filters
Post by: Asianlovejuice on October 29, 2010, 01:01:20 AM
+1 on Raynox,bought one few months ago and i'm happy with it,very sharp....
Title: Re: Raynox DCR250 or Close-Up filters
Post by: Ramesses on October 29, 2010, 10:43:04 PM
+1 on Raynox,bought one few months ago and i'm happy with it,very sharp....

Thanks for the input Sir. What lens did you paired it to? :)
Title: Re: Raynox DCR250 or Close-Up filters
Post by: Asianlovejuice on November 01, 2010, 04:05:58 AM
Thanks for the input Sir. What lens did you paired it to? :)

Kitlens bro and 28-105mm.....
Title: Re: Raynox DCR250 or Close-Up filters
Post by: Chip on November 01, 2010, 10:10:25 AM
I'm grabbing one soon :)  Preferably by the end of the month.  Can't wait to try it out and see how the shots will come out. 
Title: Re: Raynox DCR250 or Close-Up filters
Post by: prism on November 09, 2010, 11:45:29 AM
Sir +1 po sa Raynox, i bought 1 from Ms. Sillie, ok naman cya at madali gamitin.

nakapag try na din ako ng Generic na CUF, medyo mahirap so mahihirapan if you're going to shoot insects, pwede siguro if still subjects lang..

You can check sa macro forums dito, may topics na Macro using 18-105mm +raynox, and 50mm+raynox.

makikita mo na maganda mga results.