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Title: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: bryanvcpalacio on November 05, 2013, 11:06:02 AM
very intriguing for a camera priced 50% more than a 24mp, with Video function D610. it has to have some new tricks for its price or everyone is just paying for the retro looks
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: bryanvcpalacio on November 05, 2013, 12:17:26 PM
its official...

http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/df/index.htm (http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/df/index.htm)

still searching for that hybrid feature >:(
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: retina on November 05, 2013, 12:17:46 PM
Finally announced.

Detailed specs:

http://nikonrumors.com/2013/11/04/nikon-df-camera-detailed-specifications.aspx/ (http://nikonrumors.com/2013/11/04/nikon-df-camera-detailed-specifications.aspx/)
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: splukutum on November 05, 2013, 12:19:45 PM
very intriguing for a camera priced 50% more than a 24mp, with Video function D610. it has to have some new tricks for its price or everyone is just paying for the retro looks

a D4 sensor at half the price.

DF (d4 sensor + usable 12,800 ISO) + noct 58mm f/1.2 = night vision street photography
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: keeper on November 05, 2013, 01:16:26 PM
interviews with Joe McNally , et al.

http://nikondf.nikonusa.com/ (http://nikondf.nikonusa.com/)
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: bryanvcpalacio on November 05, 2013, 01:21:53 PM
so its basically a hybrid of the D4 sensor, D610 AF system and shutter mechanism perhaps, weather sealing of the D800 and the body of the F2 or F3 :)
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: romzL on November 05, 2013, 01:28:25 PM
i thought meron hybrid VF kaya it was called hybrid :D i just find the camera too thick. para siguro sa mga film shooters mas madali mag set with those dials and everything pero kung sa mga nasanay na sa digital, baka mag fumble sa kaka set ng mga knobs at dials :D
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: pitbull on November 05, 2013, 01:31:40 PM
D600 AF, boooo :o :o :o
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: bryanvcpalacio on November 05, 2013, 01:33:18 PM
i thought meron hybrid VF kaya it was called hybrid :D i just find the camera too thick. para siguro sa mga film shooters mas madali mag set with those dials and everything pero kung sa mga nasanay na sa digital, baka mag fumble sa kaka set ng mga knobs at dials :D

nasanay ka kasi sa OMD Romz :D
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: romzL on November 05, 2013, 01:33:51 PM
D600 AF, boooo :o :o :o

so that means cluttered yung mga AF points nya? hmmmm....
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: peejay on November 05, 2013, 01:38:06 PM
Yes...
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: yourdone on November 05, 2013, 01:46:06 PM
Ano kaya iniisip ng Nikon nung development at pricing ng Df?

So the D610:
-Has the better sensor (24 vs 16 even DxoMark says the 24mp sensor is better with low light 2980 vs 2965 despite smaller pixel size, so downsampling to 16= even better?)
-Has a pop up flash that allows commander mode for speedlights
-Has 1 more SD card slot
-Has better battery specs (1900maH vs 1230maH) though the DF paper rate is 1400 vs 900 for the D610? Smells fishy
-Has a movie mode
-Is only 55grams heavier, half an inch thicker
-Has a better grip area

Am I missing something? 750$ for the "retro" look and the ability to mount 1950s-1960s lenses?
750$ is enough to buy an AF-D 35/2 and 85/1.8
A few more $ and you get the amazing Sigma 35/1.4
You could even get a D800 on rebate and a used FM kit for the same price
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: enshong on November 05, 2013, 01:46:44 PM
D600 AF, 1/4000 max. Digital Conƒusion. Hehehe
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: retina on November 05, 2013, 02:13:16 PM
D600 AF, boooo :o :o :o
Sabi ko na nga eh yan ang magiging reaction mo.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: retina on November 05, 2013, 02:22:29 PM
D600 AF, boooo :o :o :o


so that means cluttered yung mga AF points nya? hmmmm....

Yan oh!! Galing sa NikonUSA.

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5496/10685143944_4f1eba07b9_o.jpg)
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: pitbull on November 05, 2013, 03:43:38 PM
bwisit na pasador yan...

essence of chicken.

nawalan na ako ng gana. lumambot si manoy. parang yun na table mong maganda pag nakita mo sa maliwanag ayaw mo na.

masaya pa ako sa D800 at D7000 ko. kung ganon lang price mag D3s na lang ako :o :o :o
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: yourdone on November 05, 2013, 03:56:51 PM
Malaking letdown nga, ok lang naman sana yung 2750$ na pricetag kung may magandang feature na tutulong sa paggamit nung mga lumang-luma na Nikkor primes

Akala ko performance hybrid, aesthetics lang pala
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: bryanvcpalacio on November 05, 2013, 04:22:55 PM
Malaking letdown nga, ok lang naman sana yung 2750$ na pricetag kung may magandang feature na tutulong sa paggamit nung mga lumang-luma na Nikkor primes

Akala ko performance hybrid, aesthetics lang pala

sisihin naten yung mga teaser videos :D

i guess these are for those rich people or former pros who just want to sit back and enjoy the pure freedom of being just a hobbyist. going back to their roots if you will. same probably as some who buy Leicas after purchasing a dozen high end gear for so long and got tired of the technology.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: retina on November 05, 2013, 04:31:18 PM
Hybrid of the preAI and post AI era...maybe it is just about it.  Nothing more to expect....maybe a lot will buy it. It will take great pictures here and there and everywhere.

The dam that holds the Nikon fans together is now leaking (it's been leaking for a longtime). The fact is, a lot of us have tried testing the other rivers. We bought a second body like mFTs, Nex,etc. Something we don't usually do before. I have done it too. A lot of us are not looking at Nikon anymore. Well , it is not to say that we can't use our current Nikon to take great photographs . We still can and we will still do for a long time. Nikon needs to plug those holes before the one big rush and prevent the MICs from marching on.

The Nikon Df is one good camera with a great sensor. I will look at it when it is available but I won't expect myself to GAS on it.

Malaking letdown nga, ok lang naman sana yung 2750$ na pricetag kung may magandang feature na tutulong sa paggamit nung mga lumang-luma na Nikkor primes

Akala ko performance hybrid, aesthetics lang pala

sisihin naten yung mga teaser videos :D

i guess these are for those rich people or former pros who just want to sit back and enjoy the pure freedom of being just a hobbyist. going back to their roots if you will. same probably as some who buy Leicas after purchasing a dozen high end gear for so long and got tired of the technology.
Malungkot yong video dahil walang kabuhay buhay yong model.Parang maysakit!!! Kulang sa ligo...dahil napipilitan lang yata!! Ha ha ha ...Sorry that's below the belt. Cheers
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: pogzz505 on November 05, 2013, 04:56:10 PM
Masyadong mataas ang price..i'll pass..

Sent from my GT-I9100

Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: junaquino on November 05, 2013, 05:28:56 PM
Hybrid yan pinaghalong left focus problem at sensor dust and oil issue....... wag naman sanang mag dilang anghel. Mas inaabangan ko ang 24-70 VR nila.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: kikopaolo on November 05, 2013, 08:24:16 PM
malaki po pala..

Nikon Df 台灣發表會 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up52HiQK-yE#ws)
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: tambutsoo on November 05, 2013, 08:54:19 PM
Nikon Df (Dust free)  :)
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: chaloy on November 05, 2013, 10:09:14 PM
No special feature to justify that price. No manual focusing aids or special focusing screen.   >:(
Palpak talaga yung Nikon kung magrelease ng bagong camera line (Nikon 1, Coolpix A). Nice concept pero sobrang mahal.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: retina on November 05, 2013, 10:22:42 PM
No special feature to justify that price. No manual focusing aids or special focusing screen.   >:(
Palpak talaga yung Nikon kung magrelease ng bagong camera line (Nikon 1, Coolpix A). Nice concept pero sobrang mahal.
OK naman ang Nikon 1 at Coolpix A,kaso lang Nikon is out of reality. Akala nila they are the only player in the world. Like this one, the price is too much.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: junaquino on November 05, 2013, 10:53:56 PM
Nikon Df (Dust free)  :)

DF = Dust Full

DF = Dimag Focus
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: chaloy on November 06, 2013, 12:16:07 AM
No special feature to justify that price. No manual focusing aids or special focusing screen.   >:(
Palpak talaga yung Nikon kung magrelease ng bagong camera line (Nikon 1, Coolpix A). Nice concept pero sobrang mahal.
OK naman ang Nikon 1 at Coolpix A,kaso lang Nikon is out of reality. Akala nila they are the only player in the world. Like this one, the price is too much.

Yup, yung pricing palagi ang problema ng Nikon. Naging popular yung J1 dahil price drop (14k na lang ang kit)
Hintay na lang tayo sa Df2, narinig ko 51pt AF ang ilalagay. Hehe
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: pogzz505 on November 06, 2013, 12:34:09 AM
Parang DSLR din ang size dun sa video..

Sent from my GT-I9100

Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: junaquino on November 06, 2013, 12:41:41 AM
Yung DF mukhang malupit sa low light mukhang ito na yung inaantay na pamalit sa D700. Sa article ni mansurov mas malupit to sa D700.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: kenichi go on November 06, 2013, 09:30:09 AM
5.5 fps.. I hope hindi shutter mechanism ng D600 ang ginamit ???
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: romzL on November 06, 2013, 09:39:44 AM
sabi nila smallest FF eh mukang mas maliit pa ang D600 dito. mas maliit pa din siyempre ang Sony A7. That price tag is really for the ones who has deep wallets
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: gqtuazon on November 06, 2013, 09:52:24 AM
Dear Nikon,

     Please enough of the teaser videos, specs and interviews.  Just shut up and take my money now before my wife finds out!


Thank you.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: romzL on November 06, 2013, 09:54:34 AM
Dear Nikon,

     Please enough of the teaser videos, specs and interviews.  Just shut up and take my money now before my wife finds out!


Thank you.

yun oh si sir Glenn mukang magiging isa sa mga first owner :)
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: junaquino on November 06, 2013, 09:57:38 AM
@gqtuazon
      post agad ng mga low light shots mo
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: retina on November 06, 2013, 09:59:14 AM
Maganda naman sya!! Mahal lang talaga. To some it is a toy and the rest as a tool. It is too expensive to be a toy and not practical to be a tool.Other models are more practical and well featured .  Even if you have money to buy it you will find it lacking in the end.If you stick your aging Nippon Kogaku lens and  your eyesight is failing you will wish for focus peaking. Nikon could not please everyone but the problem is if it almost everyone. We all wish Nikon a success because it can benefit everyone of us. However, I am not with Nikon on this one. The D4 sensor is so expensive for me.

Dear Nikon,

     Please enough of the teaser videos, specs and interviews.  Just shut up and take my money now before my wife finds out!


Thank you.
No problem Glenn, just sell your x10 and then tell her you have an upgrade for your x10 that is why it got bigger and a new name....ha ha ha ha....see both looks the same. The Df is in streroids.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: junaquino on November 06, 2013, 10:08:56 AM
@retina
      mukhang enticing yung low light capability if equall or comparable sa D4 performance. Parang D700 replacement na.. could be the D400 peeps have been waiting for.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: gqtuazon on November 06, 2013, 10:28:09 AM
Maganda naman sya!! Mahal lang talaga. To some it is a toy and the rest as a tool. It is too expensive to be a toy and not practical to be a tool.Other models are more practical and well featured .  Even if you have money to buy it you will find it lacking in the end.If you stick your aging Nippon Kogaku lens and  your eyesight is failing you will wish for focus peaking. Nikon could not please everyone but the problem is if it almost everyone. We all wish Nikon a success because it can benefit everyone of us. However, I am not with Nikon on this one. The D4 sensor is so expensive for me.

No problem Glenn, just sell your x10 and then tell her you have an upgrade for your x10 that is why it got bigger and a new name....ha ha ha ha....see both looks the same. The Df is in streroids.

Doc - here is the way I view this based on what I already have.

I've always wanted the D4 but it is way too expensive to do casual photography. I wanted the D4 because of it's higher ISO capabilities unlike the typical ISO 100 - 6,400 cameras.

The Df with the same sensor as the D4 at approx 50% off it's retail price, I find this as a better deal without the bulk of the D4 and it's price tag.

For other shooting requirements that requires more mega pixel, I already have the D800E. 

Weight is not an issue for me since most of my lenses are much heavier than the cameras.

My D7000 and Fuji X10 might have to go due to lack of use.

So for me, the D800E and Df would be a great combination instead of paying the premium of the D4.

Re: looks and other features.  Once you get to use the camera, you'll be able to adapt to whatever short comings it may have. I'm sure there are still wedding photographers in the Philippines who still uses D90 correct?
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: retina on November 06, 2013, 10:52:14 AM
Maganda naman sya!! Mahal lang talaga. To some it is a toy and the rest as a tool. It is too expensive to be a toy and not practical to be a tool.Other models are more practical and well featured .  Even if you have money to buy it you will find it lacking in the end.If you stick your aging Nippon Kogaku lens and  your eyesight is failing you will wish for focus peaking. Nikon could not please everyone but the problem is if it almost everyone. We all wish Nikon a success because it can benefit everyone of us. However, I am not with Nikon on this one. The D4 sensor is so expensive for me.

No problem Glenn, just sell your x10 and then tell her you have an upgrade for your x10 that is why it got bigger and a new name....ha ha ha ha....see both looks the same. The Df is in streroids.

Doc - here is the way I view this based on what I already have.

I've always wanted the D4 but it is way too expensive to do casual photography. I wanted the D4 because of it's higher ISO capabilities unlike the typical ISO 100 - 6,400 cameras.

The Df with the same sensor as the D4 at approx 50% off it's retail price, I find this as a better deal without the bulk of the D4 and it's price tag.

For other shooting requirements that requires more mega pixel, I already have the D800E. 

Weight is not an issue for me since most of my lenses are much heavier than the cameras.

My D7000 and Fuji X10 might have to go due to lack of use.

So for me, the D800E and Df would be a great combination instead of paying the premium of the D4.

Re: looks and other features.  Once you get to use the camera, you'll be able to adapt to whatever short comings it may have. I'm sure there are still wedding photographers in the Philippines who still uses D90 correct?
Yes, Glenn that seems this is for you. I remember that you preordered the D4 and now here is your chance. I will say that it fits your need then go. I hope a thousand more will have need like you so Nikon can roll on the expenses for more R@D.
@retina
      mukhang enticing yung low light capability if equall or comparable sa D4 performance. Parang D700 replacement na.. could be the D400 peeps have been waiting for.
Jun, sige gayahin mo si Glenn. Pagaralan mo. Maybe in year or 2 I can afford this too.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: mikkoy on November 06, 2013, 10:55:25 AM
My wish: digital FM2...with a D600/d610 sensor, available split prism focus and AF (kahit 3 AF points pa yan), same size as the old film camera and all for $1,000. Happy na ako dyan.  ;D
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: junaquino on November 06, 2013, 10:59:31 AM
@retina
      I only have 2 hands doc tama na tong DSLR, IR and Zoom point shoot pang birdie
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: retina on November 06, 2013, 11:27:25 AM
@retina
      I only have 2 hands doc tama na tong DSLR, IR and Zoom point shoot pang birdie
Akala ko Siamese dancer ka with multiple hands..If I have a d800 too, this will not tempt me yon ngang wala sa d610 ako nakatingin...mukhang dust free naman ata!!!Nakatingin din ako sa A7r ng Sony pero ang hirap kaya ng 2 systems.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: David Hilos on November 06, 2013, 11:42:57 AM
D600 AF, boooo :o :o :o

Ibig sabihin, isinalpak ang AF sensor ng D7000?  ::) Kaya siguro kumpol kumpol sa gitna ang AF points.

Pero ang gwapo ng dating, sana nga lang wala nang mga problems.
Pagkakataon na ng Nikon makarecover sa sales
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: pitbull on November 06, 2013, 12:05:49 PM
nasa 110,000pesoses yan dito.

ganon talaga timing ng Nikon. sinasadya talaga nilang i-timing ang release ng mga bago nilang pautot sa early autumn. in time for the autumn colors. yan ang pinaka malaking sales ng camera dito kasama na yun late winter dahil sakura season ang spring :o :o :o

ang target market nila ay yun mga tatang na walang magawa sa pension nila. kung ako yun tatang, tatago ko na lang yun lumang camera ko at gagamitin ko na lang yun pera pangsalba ng babae mula sa mahihirap na bansa, at least kahit kailan pwede niyang kunan yun cherry blossom ::)

Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: pitbull on November 06, 2013, 12:10:18 PM
hindi na-gets ng Nikon yun point kung bakit bumibili ng MILC ang mga tao. hindi nila naiintindihan na ayaw na ng taong gumamit ng mirror kasi nga ang ingay. pampalaki pa. ngayon, kung gamitin nila yun F-mount or gumawa sila ng pago at isalpak nila dito:

(http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/images1/sp/D3S_6868-950.jpg)

eh di nabuhay pa nila sana yun image ng SP kung saan sila unang nakilala. hindi pa natin iintindihin yun bwisit na pasador layout ng AF-points.

tingin ko transition ng nikon ito. darating din yun mas maliit, yun DX version naman. and hopefully gawa sila ng mirrorless na malaki laki ang sensor size. mauunahan nanaman sila ng FUji apol niyan :o :o :o
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: bryanvcpalacio on November 06, 2013, 12:34:52 PM
D600 AF, boooo :o :o :o

Ibig sabihin, isinalpak ang AF sensor ng D7000?  ::) Kaya siguro kumpol kumpol sa gitna ang AF points.

Pero ang gwapo ng dating, sana nga lang wala nang mga problems.
Pagkakataon na ng Nikon makarecover sa sales

same multi cam 4800 FX yung AF sensor
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: pitbull on November 06, 2013, 01:09:12 PM
kalokohan yan. sana kahit na 5 AF sensor lang na kalat, ok na sa akin.

pero kunsabagay, ang F5 at F100 hindi rin naman kalat ang AF points.

honestly parang gusto ko din ito dahil maliit. :o :o :o

balak ko kasi kunin ito tapos salpakan na lang ng 40mm na voigtlander. makakapang prefocus pa ako tapos pancake pa.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: David Hilos on November 06, 2013, 01:15:54 PM
hindi na-gets ng Nikon yun point kung bakit bumibili ng MILC ang mga tao. hindi nila naiintindihan na ayaw na ng taong gumamit ng mirror kasi nga ang ingay. pampalaki pa.

At yung flexibility ng MLC na gumamit ng iba't ibang lens sa tulong ng adaptor. Isipin mo, pati yung mga classic Leica lenses, pwedeng mong gamitin.

Kung tutuusing, parang D610 na binawasan ng ilang hardware pero sinalpakan naman ng D4 sensor at higit sa lahat...pinaporma ng todo  ;D
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: retina on November 06, 2013, 01:17:18 PM
Pure  Photography, how about this?

(Music Intro, Etude no. XXX)

I have a dream.

I walk into the mountains, I don't have a watch and my father is not with me. ;D ;D ;D
I survey the mountain and the terrain. Meter the light. I slow down a little bit. Lift the camera into my eye and compose my shot...click click click the shutter speed dial...ohhhh I forgot, I have to snap the old 28mm ais lens.Snap snap. Dial the aperture . Click click.. I love the sound.  Look now it has a retro feel.
Now the image is what exactly in my mind. I lift the camera again...Click!! I love the shutter sound.

Now it is in my hands again.....(music is about to end)...what's in my hands? The d7000 in manual mode is in my hands again. I miss it after shooting x100s for quite a long time....

End of nightmare. That's part 1. The rest of the parts it is all up to you to make it.

kalokohan yan. sana kahit na 5 AF sensor lang na kalat, ok na sa akin.

pero kunsabagay, ang F5 at F100 hindi rin naman kalat ang AF points.

honestly parang gusto ko din ito dahil maliit. :o :o :o

balak ko kasi kunin ito tapos salpakan na lang ng 40mm na voigtlander. makakapang prefocus pa ako tapos pancake pa.

 ;D ;D ;D  Go buy the Nikon Df....Cheers.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: David Hilos on November 06, 2013, 01:25:58 PM
nasa 110,000pesoses yan dito.

ganon talaga timing ng Nikon. sinasadya talaga nilang i-timing ang release ng mga bago nilang pautot sa early autumn. in time for the autumn colors. yan ang pinaka malaking sales ng camera dito kasama na yun late winter dahil sakura season ang spring :o :o :o



Kung minsan, yang timing na yan ang nakakasira.
Kailangan nilang magrelease ng bagong camera sa target date kaya kahit may problema pa. Kumbaga sa exam, "finished or not finished, pass you paper!" hehehe
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: gqtuazon on November 06, 2013, 04:05:57 PM
I think Thom Hogan is pretty much spot on about his opinion about the Nikon Df.  Some will like it (particularly the middle age group or older) and the younger generations will still look for more specs and other gadgets instead. 

http://www.dslrbodies.com/newsviews/digital-confusion-with-the.html (http://www.dslrbodies.com/newsviews/digital-confusion-with-the.html)

Sorry na lang sa kanya at hindi siya pina dalhan ng pre-production na Df para ma try niya unlike Bob Krist and Joe McNally.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: pitbull on November 06, 2013, 08:28:24 PM
Fuji has just won another customer :o :o :o

next camera purchase is another Fuji.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: retina on November 06, 2013, 08:36:29 PM
Halos kasing laki lang sya ng d7000:

http://camerasize.com/compact/#495.353,7.353,ha,t (http://camerasize.com/compact/#495.353,7.353,ha,t)
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: gqtuazon on November 06, 2013, 11:06:14 PM
I'm sure maraming accessories na lalabas para sa camera.

(http://nikondf.nikonusa.com/img/df-row-1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: junaquino on November 06, 2013, 11:56:19 PM
ang pogi ng dating niyan. bagay na bagay kaysa naka shoulder strap
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: David Hilos on November 07, 2013, 12:13:57 AM
One thing I'm not really sure of is that they say it's compatible with pre Ai lens,
but I don't see any lever that will engage to the lens "rabbit ears".

Probably they just added a switch for the EE servo coupling just like the entry level Nikon DSLRs, which means pre Ai lenses can be mounted but metering will not work.
Unless of course they came up with something new to sense the aperture ring  ;)
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: MeljoeSD on November 07, 2013, 12:39:49 AM

http://youtu.be/5lM0M-l6eu0 (http://youtu.be/5lM0M-l6eu0)
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: pitbull on November 07, 2013, 12:40:58 AM
may "T*&i" yun mount niya na pwede mong hatakin pababa. check niyo sa site :o :o :o
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: peejay on November 07, 2013, 07:22:07 AM

Fuji has just won another customer :o :o :o

next camera purchase is another Fuji.

Agree :p
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: yourdone on November 07, 2013, 09:15:47 AM
Personally, the last few years disappointing ang decisions ng Nikon
Para silang anti-Fuji, hindi nakikinig sa customers

Kulang ng lenses ang DX, naglabas nga puro naman macro lens (40&85) Asan na yung wideangle primes? Kahit 16mm f2.8 man lang sana
Naglabas ng mirrorless system, pam P&S na sensor naman ginamit. Eh di kung maliit na sensor na mirrorless ang gusto nila gawin, eh di sumali na lang sana sa m4/3
Quality control issues (D4&D800 green screen, D800 outofocusing, D600 sensor spit & SB900 self-destruct mode)
Wala pa reng pamalit sa D300s pero binebenta pa ren, di na sila nahiya sa 7D na binigyan ng v2 firmware na nga e
D3s to D4 incremental upgrade, ayan tuloy raming D4 owners nagshift sa 1Dx (Scott Kelby, Matt Granger, etc)
Yung D3x for sale pa ren, 7000$ pa ren? Anu ba? Nung lumabas raming reklamo sa presyo, ngayung matanda na 1k off lang? Sana diniscontinue na lang
Naglabas ng Fixed lens large sensor compact, tinapatan naman yung X100 sa presyo eh mukha namang mumurahin P&S bakit ang mahal?
Oh wow may Noctilux successor, kaso 1.4 lang tapos 1700$
The Nikon DaFuch,
Uy mabenta yung retro na Fuji tsaka Olympus gayahen naten!
Pagamiten naten sila ng lumang lens pero wag natin payagan lagyan ng split prism na focusing screen o kahit anung MF aid man lang para makatulong dun sa gagamit nung mga sinaunang lens. Pure photography e, pahirapan naten sila mag focus
Gawin nateng 1/200 yung flash sync speed pero 1/250 langang option sa command dial, hindi naman binanggit ni Joe McNally sa video e
Wag ren naten lagyan ng A for Auto sa ISO or sa Shutter. Pure photography e, pahirapan naten sila mag timpla ng exposure
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: enshong on November 07, 2013, 09:27:48 AM
Tama nga si Chris sa The Camera Store. It's just another DSLR na sinalpakan ng maraming retro dials sa top plate. In fact, parang D600 lang siya na nilagyan ng D4 sensor at retro top. The same bulk pa rin. Nice sensor though. Looking forward to Fuji's FF someday. Current X cameras nila are quite good na actually and a pleasure to use.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: retina on November 07, 2013, 09:38:03 AM

Fuji has just won another customer :o :o :o

next camera purchase is another Fuji.

Agree :p
Akala ko babalik ka na sa Nikon  ;D  ;) Personally the Fuji models that I've tested have the controls placed on the right places.The shortcuts are clever and excellent. The Df has all the controls wired for the users to reach without diving into the menu. I am not sure how easy to use it but I think it just need some practice to be able to take advantage of it.

I wish Nikon provided focus peaking on this cam.The focus peaking in the x100s while not as good as the one in Sony Nex's, it is very effective. Had Nikon put focus peaking on the Df, I might really consider this. This might be a small thing but focus peaking is one of my criteria in buying cam these days.The newer panasonic mFT has one. In the future maybe focus peaking and IBIS will be a standard feature that the customers will be looking into.
Personally, the last few years disappointing ang decisions ng Nikon
Para silang anti-Fuji, hindi nakikinig sa customers

Kulang ng lenses ang DX, naglabas nga puro naman macro lens (40&85) Asan na yung wideangle primes? Kahit 16mm f2.8 man lang sana
Naglabas ng mirrorless system, pam P&S na sensor naman ginamit. Eh di kung maliit na sensor na mirrorless ang gusto nila gawin, eh di sumali na lang sana sa m4/3
Quality control issues (D4&D800 green screen, D800 outofocusing, D600 sensor spit & SB900 self-destruct mode)
Wala pa reng pamalit sa D300s pero binebenta pa ren, di na sila nahiya sa 7D na binigyan ng v2 firmware na nga e
D3s to D4 incremental upgrade, ayan tuloy raming D4 owners nagshift sa 1Dx (Scott Kelby, Matt Granger, etc)
Yung D3x for sale pa ren, 7000$ pa ren? Anu ba? Nung lumabas raming reklamo sa presyo, ngayung matanda na 1k off lang? Sana diniscontinue na lang
Naglabas ng Fixed lens large sensor compact, tinapatan naman yung X100 sa presyo eh mukha namang mumurahin P&S bakit ang mahal?
Oh wow may Noctilux successor, kaso 1.4 lang tapos 1700$
The Nikon DaFuch,
Uy mabenta yung retro na Fuji tsaka Olympus gayahen naten!
Pagamiten naten sila ng lumang lens pero wag natin payagan lagyan ng split prism na focusing screen o kahit anung MF aid man lang para makatulong dun sa gagamit nung mga sinaunang lens. Pure photography e, pahirapan naten sila mag focus
Gawin nateng 1/200 yung flash sync speed pero 1/250 langang option sa command dial, hindi naman binanggit ni Joe McNally sa video e
Wag ren naten lagyan ng A for Auto sa ISO or sa Shutter. Pure photography e, pahirapan naten sila mag timpla ng exposure
Time is changing...Fuji made their costumers the beta testers. However, they listen and continue to improve their quirky cameras in span of time. The philosophy of working with the customers seems to work very well with Fuji. The x100 has 2 recent FW upgrade. The FW 2.01 was just released yesterday. They have direct connection with the X forum.The Fuji are not the best AFing camera around and I think it is below the bunch but users are growing in number. In the Philippines they have their presence already but Nikon is so slow and could be seen nowhere.
Nikon Df will split the Nikon fan base IMHO.They can't please everybody but they are good in dispersing everyone. The Df is a very good camera, I swear, I will grab this one in a heart beat. However, it is an irony. I can't focus it very well without an aid. I am an aging photographer and this is supposed to be catered to me. The younger generation won't appreciate it. My daughter said my x100s looks so old and ugly. Cheers

Tama nga si Chris sa The Camera Store. It's just another DSLR na sinalpakan ng maraming retro dials sa top plate. In fact, parang D600 lang siya na nilagyan ng D4 sensor at retro top. The same bulk pa rin. Nice sensor though. Looking forward to Fuji's FF someday. Current X cameras nila are quite good na actually and a pleasure to use.
Another X users from Nikon camp ha ha ha....like me. Pero I  have not disposed all my Nikon yet. I am planning to collect it na lang but won't be buying more of Nikon. Cheers and peace to you.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: gqtuazon on November 07, 2013, 11:13:48 AM
Pagamiten naten sila ng lumang lens pero wag natin payagan lagyan ng split prism na focusing screen o kahit anung MF aid man lang para makatulong dun sa gagamit nung mga sinaunang lens. Pure photography e, pahirapan naten sila mag focus
Gawin nateng 1/200 yung flash sync speed pero 1/250 langang option sa command dial, hindi naman binanggit ni Joe McNally sa video e
Wag ren naten lagyan ng A for Auto sa ISO or sa Shutter. Pure photography e, pahirapan naten sila mag timpla ng exposure

You can voice out your opinion with Nikon by taking the survey. Telling us your preference will not help.

I've submitted my feedback already.

https://webc.nikonimaging.com/form/pub/info/df_en (https://webc.nikonimaging.com/form/pub/info/df_en)
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: junaquino on November 07, 2013, 11:17:56 AM
I am looking forward sa lowlight performance ng DF. Mukhang ito ang magiging spec magnet nito.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: gqtuazon on November 07, 2013, 11:21:03 AM
Nikon Df will split the Nikon fan base IMHO.They can't please everybody but they are good in dispersing everyone. The Df is a very good camera, I swear, I will grab this one in a heart beat. However, it is an irony. I can't focus it very well without an aid. I am an aging photographer and this is supposed to be catered to me. The younger generation won't appreciate it. My daughter said my x100s looks so old and ugly. Cheers

So true. This camera is definitely NOT for everybody but to give Nikon a credit, they are introducing something that may appeal to certain photographers instead of nothing.

Si Bjørn Rørslett mentioned that using MF is much better than D800 according to his remarks from Nikongear.com.

We should give it some time for field users to tells us their opinion about its performance.

Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: yourdone on November 07, 2013, 11:38:19 AM
Pagamiten naten sila ng lumang lens pero wag natin payagan lagyan ng split prism na focusing screen o kahit anung MF aid man lang para makatulong dun sa gagamit nung mga sinaunang lens. Pure photography e, pahirapan naten sila mag focus
Gawin nateng 1/200 yung flash sync speed pero 1/250 langang option sa command dial, hindi naman binanggit ni Joe McNally sa video e
Wag ren naten lagyan ng A for Auto sa ISO or sa Shutter. Pure photography e, pahirapan naten sila mag timpla ng exposure

You can voice out your opinion with Nikon by taking the survey. Telling us your preference will not help.

I've submitted my feedback already.

https://webc.nikonimaging.com/form/pub/info/df_en (https://webc.nikonimaging.com/form/pub/info/df_en)

I took the survey last night, "Intent was admirable but execution was lacking" was what I answered in the last item"

I'm just sharing my thoughts on the Df on this forum, my "preferences" would be dependent on the specificity on the inquiry :)
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: retina on November 07, 2013, 11:50:16 AM
Pagamiten naten sila ng lumang lens pero wag natin payagan lagyan ng split prism na focusing screen o kahit anung MF aid man lang para makatulong dun sa gagamit nung mga sinaunang lens. Pure photography e, pahirapan naten sila mag focus
Gawin nateng 1/200 yung flash sync speed pero 1/250 langang option sa command dial, hindi naman binanggit ni Joe McNally sa video e
Wag ren naten lagyan ng A for Auto sa ISO or sa Shutter. Pure photography e, pahirapan naten sila mag timpla ng exposure

You can voice out your opinion with Nikon by taking the survey. Telling us your preference will not help.

I've submitted my feedback already.

https://webc.nikonimaging.com/form/pub/info/df_en (https://webc.nikonimaging.com/form/pub/info/df_en)

I took the survey last night, "Intent was admirable but execution was lacking" was what I answered in the last item"

I'm just sharing my thoughts on the Df on this forum, my "preferences" would be dependent on the specificity on the inquiry :)
I did not take the survey yet.My friend preordered one and I will borrow it if it will arrive in due time before his vacation in the Bohol for charity work. No need to rush on this. For the a time being I will just jump from one forum to another. I will have my chances to fiddle the different releases from my rich friends and patients.Surely, this is a very enjoyable time of the year. Window shopping is really fun for photographers these days. Cheers.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: pitbull on November 07, 2013, 12:05:00 PM
nag survey ako, sabi ko sa presyo niyan, kukuha na lang ako ng D4 :o :o :o
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: Oggy on November 07, 2013, 02:13:44 PM
tsk tsk it looks like a "frankenstein" of a Nikon F  ???
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: David Hilos on November 07, 2013, 05:40:17 PM
may "T*&i" yun mount niya na pwede mong hatakin pababa. check niyo sa site :o :o :o


Mukhang walang lawit bossing. Based dito sa lens compatibility, kailangang iset mano mano sa camera ang aperture setting ng lens.
http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/df/compatibility02.htm (http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/df/compatibility02.htm)
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: DennisP on November 07, 2013, 06:57:25 PM
http://youtu.be/XPSHYhiOrfM (http://youtu.be/XPSHYhiOrfM)























 























 http://www.thepcaa.org/ (http://thepcaa.org/)
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: henry10reyes on November 07, 2013, 08:23:05 PM
Not a fan of the look. I've never shot a camera with dials and all - it might be interesting but I think I would probably buy a D800 if given the choice.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: enshong on November 07, 2013, 08:41:56 PM
If you want a digital retro camera with dials and all done right, look at the Fuji X-Pro and X-E. Probably the only thing missing is an ISO dial which could have been nice if they programmed to the rear command dial.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: chaloy on November 07, 2013, 09:38:44 PM
If you want a digital retro camera with dials and all done right, look at the Fuji X-Pro and X-E. Probably the only thing missing is an ISO dial which could have been nice if they programmed to the rear command dial.

Are the Df controls wrong? I thought they were based on their film cameras.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: retina on November 07, 2013, 10:32:01 PM
If you want a digital retro camera with dials and all done right, look at the Fuji X-Pro and X-E. Probably the only thing missing is an ISO dial which could have been nice if they programmed to the rear command dial.

Are the Df controls wrong? I thought they were based on their film cameras.
I think there is nothing wrong with it. Blame Fuji they showed the way on how to put those dials in the right places.Well, even with Fuji i can always find some fault. The controls in the Df maybe just need some learning curve but we will never know until we will try it.If I have my way, I like the compensation dial on the right side...just saying but that's how I like it in my x100s.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: pitbull on November 08, 2013, 12:15:42 AM
If you want a digital retro camera with dials and all done right, look at the Fuji X-Pro and X-E. Probably the only thing missing is an ISO dial which could have been nice if they programmed to the rear command dial.


no...

Eto ang tunay na beef :o :o :o

(http://www.polliniphotolab.com/Articoli/Reflex/Nikon_F3/Nikon_F3_Top.jpg)
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: chaloy on November 08, 2013, 12:40:01 AM
If you want a digital retro camera with dials and all done right, look at the Fuji X-Pro and X-E. Probably the only thing missing is an ISO dial which could have been nice if they programmed to the rear command dial.


no...

Eto ang tunay na beef :o :o :o

([url]http://www.polliniphotolab.com/Articoli/Reflex/Nikon_F3/Nikon_F3_Top.jpg[/url])


Para saan yang lever sa shutter speed dial? Sorry, di ako nakagamit ng film slr.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: gqtuazon on November 08, 2013, 12:49:01 AM
nag survey ako, sabi ko sa presyo niyan, kukuha na lang ako ng D4 :o :o :o

Ang comment ko parang ganyan din pero bawasan ng $400 to $500 para maging more attractive.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: pitbull on November 08, 2013, 01:40:18 AM
Self timer ata kung di ako nagkakamali. Basta pag ginalaw mo yan may red dot yan. Actually kahit buhayin nila yun EM noon, ok na,e. Kahit dx pa. Pero sa totoo lang mas madali kumuha ng puti puti poo pag mirrorless at leaf shutter :o  :o :o
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: gqtuazon on November 08, 2013, 06:25:39 AM
Mga sample shots ni Joe McNally

http://www.joemcnally.com/blog/2013/11/05/nikon-df/ (http://www.joemcnally.com/blog/2013/11/05/nikon-df/)
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: bryanvcpalacio on November 08, 2013, 10:04:34 AM
IMHO, ok naman sya overall as new release by Nikon. sabi nga ng mga reviews, its not for those who just wants to have an FF camera like the D600/D610 audience where Nikon built an affordable model for hobbyist. this camera targets a different market. those "older" photographers who wants to rekindle those film days with a familiar feeling gear but in digital format. yun nga lang, i wish they could priced it much lower, sub 2500usd would be good.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: pitbull on November 08, 2013, 10:35:34 AM
to be fair. mahal ang FF. isipin na lang ninyo kung magkano ang FF na fuji. kung yun Xpro1 nga lang magkano na,e. alam kong mahal ang VF niyan dahil may salamin pa rin yan. :o :o :o
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: David Hilos on November 08, 2013, 10:42:40 AM
Self timer ata kung di ako nagkakamali. Basta pag ginalaw mo yan may red dot yan.

Yes, selftimer with 10s delay. There's also a blinking red LED infornt to indicate selftimer mode once the shutter release button is pressed
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: retina on November 08, 2013, 10:48:48 AM
to be fair. mahal ang FF. isipin na lang ninyo kung magkano ang FF na fuji. kung yun Xpro1 nga lang magkano na,e. alam kong mahal ang VF niyan dahil may salamin pa rin yan. :o :o :o
Iniisip ko bakit kasi photography pa ang pinili kong hobby. Tapos aangal ako pagmahal ang FF sensor....bird watching na lang kaya...hindi yong bird na ibig sabihin ni Rico...tutoong bird ha  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: bryanvcpalacio on November 08, 2013, 11:21:15 AM
to be fair. mahal ang FF. isipin na lang ninyo kung magkano ang FF na fuji. kung yun Xpro1 nga lang magkano na,e. alam kong mahal ang VF niyan dahil may salamin pa rin yan. :o :o :o
Iniisip ko bakit kasi photography pa ang pinili kong hobby. Tapos aangal ako pagmahal ang FF sensor....bird watching na lang kaya...hindi yong bird na ibig sabihin ni Rico...tutoong bird ha  ;D ;D ;D

bird watching = mahal ang telescope. tapos pag nagandahan ka sa ibon bibili ka ng D4, magiging wildlife photog ka na mas mahal ang mga lens! haha! ;D
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: retina on November 08, 2013, 11:29:33 AM
to be fair. mahal ang FF. isipin na lang ninyo kung magkano ang FF na fuji. kung yun Xpro1 nga lang magkano na,e. alam kong mahal ang VF niyan dahil may salamin pa rin yan. :o :o :o
Iniisip ko bakit kasi photography pa ang pinili kong hobby. Tapos aangal ako pagmahal ang FF sensor....bird watching na lang kaya...hindi yong bird na ibig sabihin ni Rico...tutoong bird ha  ;D ;D ;D

bird watching = mahal ang telescope. tapos pag nagandahan ka sa ibon bibili ka ng D4, magiging wildlife photog ka na mas mahal ang mga lens! haha! ;D
Walang ligtas!!Lalong napamahal...
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: pitbull on November 08, 2013, 01:36:40 PM
wala,e. basag na yun hobby ng mga birdWatchers dito...bawal na magpost ng labanos :o :o :o

nilalangaw daw yun Df...sa totoo lang mukha naman disente yun camera,e...sa 110K parang mahal lang siya ng 10K, so tama lang yan sa 100K

isipin ninyo, nasa 48K ang X-pro1 dito.
pag naging FX yan, imagin ninyo kung magkano yan lalabas. isa pang taga maningil yang Fuji. ang mahal ng lens. pero pikit mata ko silang susuportahan pakonti konti para makatulong ako sa mga nagtatrabaho dyan sa Laguna.

currently, hindi ko pa ma justify mag X-pro, X100s at X20 combo. dahil kahit hindi ko talaga main job ang photography, kasama pa rin yan sa trabaho ko.

aaminin ko na kapag kalat ang AF point niyan, kahit na 5 or 11 lang ang AF points dyan kakagatin ko pa rin yan sa presyong 110K. kahit na walag video at iba yun battery. meron naman akong ibang camera para diyan
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: bryanvcpalacio on November 08, 2013, 02:03:36 PM
aaminin ko na kapag kalat ang AF point niyan, kahit na 5 or 11 lang ang AF points dyan kakagatin ko pa rin yan sa presyong 110K. kahit na walag video at iba yun battery. meron naman akong ibang camera para diyan

sana nga ginamit nalang nila yung lumang 11pt AF System ng D200, accurate naman yon. kahit pa yung 5pt AF ng D70 mapababa lang yung presyo! antay mo nalang bossing bumaba ang presyo, wag lang sana syang bumaba dahil may diprensya diba ;D
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: pitbull on November 08, 2013, 03:06:14 PM
kumpol kumpol pa rin yan.

kunsabagay nun panahon ng F100 at F5, ganon din kakumpol ang AF points ng camera. pero siyempre iba na ang panahon ngayon,ano. kung nagmirrorless na lang sana sila hindi pa naging problema yon.

tingin ko panandalian ito. para lang unahan ang canon na lumabas ng ganito. in 1-2 years time may mirrorless na talaga ang nikon na F-mount :o :o :o
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: gqtuazon on November 09, 2013, 12:29:03 PM
I am not surprise why the pre orders are much lower compared to the introduction of the D4 and D800/E.  With the introduction of the D4, D800/E, D600 and D610, most full frame users do not have a need for the Df since the current FX line up addresses just about everything that the general crowd needs.

So, that leaves some of the film users and possibly people who are looking for a D4 high ISO performance at a lower price tag, which is what makes me curious and interested with this camera.  The target market will definitely be a lot smaller.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: pitbull on November 09, 2013, 05:04:59 PM
(http://technologyuninhibited.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/hipster-glasses21.jpg)
bibili daw siya neto :o :o :o
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: henry10reyes on November 10, 2013, 10:56:48 AM
Hahaha. I have the glasses but not the hair nor the t-shirt and most probably not the Df either.


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Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: David Hilos on November 10, 2013, 11:51:20 PM
Another possible reason why Df is not so popular:

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304672404579183643696236868 (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304672404579183643696236868)

from the link (copy and paste):
Declining sales of high-end cameras and lenses are raising an alarming question for companies like Canon Inc. 7751.TO -0.32%  and Nikon Corp. 7731.TO -3.63%  : Could the proliferation of camera-enabled, app-heavy smartphones be crushing not only the simple point-and-shoot, but premium models as well?

This year, shipments of what's called "interchangeable-lens cameras"—high-end models that let users swap out different lenses—are diving suddenly after years of robust growth. Most of those are digital single-lens reflex, or DSLR, cameras—the bulky models used by professional photographers and enthusiasts.

Research firm IDC expects shipments of such cameras to fall 9.1% to 17.4 million units from 19.1 million units last year.

During the past few weeks, Canon and Nikon—two of the world's biggest makers of high-end cameras—both lowered their forecasts for sales in the fiscal year ending in March. Major lens maker Tamron Co. 7740.TO -1.18%  , seen as a bellwether for the market, sold 22% fewer interchangeable lenses in the first nine months of this year than it did a year earlier, forcing it to lower its profit outlook last week.

Just what's behind the decline is unclear. Canon, Nikon and Tamron point to a weak global economy and inventory buildups.

"We are seeing tough figures at the moment, but I don't think this will last forever,'' said Nikon Chief Financial Officer Junichi Itoh, at an earnings news conference on Thursday. "There still is potential demand, and I think China is the key."

But the example of Lie Fhung suggests consumer tastes could be changing too. The Hong Kong-based artist and graphic designer says she now rarely uses the Canon DSLR camera that she bought five years ago. Instead, Ms. Fhung, 44, takes most of her photos with her iPhone, and satisfies her urge to manipulate the images with a bevy of photo-editing apps.

When the editing process is complete, she posts her snapshots straight from her phone to photo-sharing app Instagram, where she has nearly 1,600 followers. Ms. Fhung says she has no plans to replace her aging Canon.

"I like using different apps to play with the texture of photos," she says. "It's my hobby."

This wasn't supposed to happen. Camera makers have argued that although smartphones and mobile devices have decimated sales of cheap, compact cameras, premium products shouldn't be affected, since they offer a level of control and picture quality that a smartphone's tiny lens and sensor can't replicate.

"Taking photos with smartphones and editing them with apps is like cooking with cheap ingredients and a lot of artificial flavoring," says Canon spokesman Takafumi Hongo. "Using interchangeable cameras is like slow food cooked with natural, genuine ingredients.''

But other market watchers say there are signs the popularity of mobile devices could be eroding sales in the cheaper, "entry" part of the high-end lineup.

Christopher Chute, a digital-imaging research director at IDC, says he's finding that some consumers are choosing to spend money on smartphones and tablets rather than good-quality stand-alone cameras.

Died-in-the-wool camera buffs may continue to replace their gear, but the potential loss of some newcomers would be a serious issue for the industry, he says.

As more consumers evaluate gadgets based on software and how well it connects to the Internet rather than hardware, the benefits of high-end cameras may become less obvious, he says. "Using software, you can literally create effects of different kinds of cameras," Mr. Chute says.

Even lens maker Tamron has acknowledged a potential problem, although it doesn't blame that for the recent decline in sales. "Smartphones pose a threat not just to compact cameras but entry-level DSLRs as well," general manager Tsugio Tsuchiya said in a phone interview.

On Digits
Are Camera Apps Enough for Photo Enthusiasts?
Some analysts say the impact on high-end cameras from smartphones and apps is exaggerated. "Whenever the market declines, people tend to try to come up with structural reasons," says J.P. Morgan JPM +4.47%  analyst Hisashi Moriyama.

Camera makers have argued that people who get hooked on photography through smartphones and apps could later move on to purchase better cameras, as they become more serious hobbyists.

Still, the pessimistic view that smartphones are hurting even interchangeable-lens cameras won't go away unless sales start picking up firmly again, says UBS Securities analyst Ryosuke Katsura.

Shares of Canon, which two weeks ago said it expected to sell 8 million interchangeable-lens cameras this year, instead of the 9 million it forecast in July, have declined 7.3% since January, even as Japan's benchmark Nikkei 225 stock index gained 37%. Nikon's shares have fallen 29% this year.

In August, Mr. Katsura lowered his digital-camera market forecasts for this year and the next. Mr. Katsura doesn't think smartphones will kill stand-alone cameras, but he isn't completely ruling out the possibility.

"The industry is at a turning point right now, so no scenario is impossible,'' he says.

—Hiroyuki Kachi and Kosaku Narioka in Tokyo contributed to this article.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: pitbull on November 16, 2013, 06:41:52 PM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7303/10882768595_13260147be_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31768064@N03/10882768595/)
nikonDf_010 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31768064@N03/10882768595/#) by mrBabaero (http://www.flickr.com/people/31768064@N03/), on Flickr

hindi ko masasabing maliit ang Df, maliit lang ng bahagya sa D700, pakiramdam mo D610 ang hawak mo. kung magpapaliit lang sila ng camera sana nilubusan na, inalis na yun mirrorbox since yan ang nagpapalaki talaga sa SLR,e.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7359/10883312593_15bc7468a1_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31768064@N03/10883312593/)
nikonDf_002 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31768064@N03/10883312593/#) by mrBabaero (http://www.flickr.com/people/31768064@N03/), on Flickr
uy, chicks! ang kinis talaga ng beauty niya. iba na pag maganda ang hangin, hindi naalikabukan ng dumi mula sa diesel ng jeep :o :o :o

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2848/10883009004_d87af41530_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31768064@N03/10883009004/)
nikonDf_007 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31768064@N03/10883009004/#) by mrBabaero (http://www.flickr.com/people/31768064@N03/), on Flickr
interesado sana ako nun una dito,e. pero nang magamit ko, wala lang. nothing special. yun AF niya supot pa din pero hindi nakaka inis gamitin sa DF kumpara sa D610 kahit pareho lang sila. di ko alam kung bakit...
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: pitbull on November 16, 2013, 06:45:32 PM
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2836/10882787456_de85b5a28d_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31768064@N03/10882787456/)
nikonDf_011 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31768064@N03/10882787456/#) by mrBabaero (http://www.flickr.com/people/31768064@N03/), on Flickr
eto yun kanyang chassis...hindi pa nilibos...kaya din gawin yan ng mga tiga cavite or malabon ::)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7362/10882896805_f048a70359_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31768064@N03/10882896805/)
nikonDf_006 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31768064@N03/10882896805/#) by mrBabaero (http://www.flickr.com/people/31768064@N03/), on Flickr
ano ang gusto ninyo, tisay or local blend? para sa akin, gusto ko siyempre ng tisay...pero iba pa din ang taglay na sigla ng local blend :o :o :o

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3722/10883281213_3b18b71913_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31768064@N03/10883281213/)
nikonDf_003 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31768064@N03/10883281213/#) by mrBabaero (http://www.flickr.com/people/31768064@N03/), on Flickr
eto naman, yun sikat na photographer na may kamukha na iron chef...
ayan yun mga mauuto nila, mga tatang na walang magawa sa buhay kundi gumastos...
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: pitbull on November 16, 2013, 06:47:44 PM
d' Pitbull Show (Tagalog) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaecDJnJvVo#ws)
ang hirap pihitin ng mga dial niya :o :o :o
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: David Hilos on November 18, 2013, 10:20:41 AM
Wow! Astig, imbitado sa product launching. Libre hipo ( sa camera   ;D ).
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: gqtuazon on November 18, 2013, 07:07:15 PM
I like the silver version. Classic look.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: NIKKOR on November 19, 2013, 12:54:09 PM
Interesado po ako dito  :-X  Tapos promise tigil na hahaha!
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: pitbull on November 20, 2013, 09:01:52 AM
ngek, open event ito... ang puti ng receptionist :o :o :o
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: duk on November 29, 2013, 11:06:47 PM
Eto galing kay pareng Sam..
http://www.samhurdphotography.com/2013/gear-reviews/nikon-df-dslr-retro-styled-camera-real-world-review-compared-to-nikon-d4?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=nikon-df-dslr-retro-styled-camera-real-world-review-compared-to-nikon-d4
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: NIKKOR on December 02, 2013, 12:32:59 PM
Tingin ko rin ganito  :D

Quote
I also find that when subjects see a camera that looks classic (like my M, M9 or now the Df) they feel a bit more engaged in the process of making a photo, which is a huge advantage.

Read more: [url]http://www.samhurdphotography.com/2013/gear-reviews/nikon-df-dslr-retro-styled-camera-real-world-review-compared-to-nikon-d4#ixzz2mHysXq00[/url] ([url]http://www.samhurdphotography.com/2013/gear-reviews/nikon-df-dslr-retro-styled-camera-real-world-review-compared-to-nikon-d4#ixzz2mHysXq00[/url])


http://www.samhurdphotography.com/2013/gear-reviews/nikon-df-dslr-retro-styled-camera-real-world-review-compared-to-nikon-d4?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=nikon-df-dslr-retro-styled-camera-real-world-review-compared-to-nikon-d4 (http://www.samhurdphotography.com/2013/gear-reviews/nikon-df-dslr-retro-styled-camera-real-world-review-compared-to-nikon-d4?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=nikon-df-dslr-retro-styled-camera-real-world-review-compared-to-nikon-d4)
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: JerryBear on December 20, 2013, 07:58:04 AM
http://m.dpreview.com/reviews/nikon-df/17

Ouch
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: pitbull on January 23, 2014, 12:46:24 PM
Fstoppers Nikon DF Digital Camera Hipster Review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en5z-Q4po4M#ws)

:o :o :o
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: danielg on February 07, 2014, 03:36:22 PM
Finally got my hands on one.
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5522/12243297425_f808460f38_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/danielygo/12243297425/)

Here it is side by side with a Fm3a
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2836/12279251976_9feebc5887_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/danielygo/12279251976/)

I guess this is a purely emotional/heart based purchase as I sold my D800 to fund this. So far no regrets at all. It's really not a camera you can judge on paper but only by really using it. I have no regrets at all. The camera is light but yet hefty enough, solidly built and just feels good on my small hands. It's also pretty intuitive to use as I have yet to open the manual. The menu system should be very easy for anyone who has used a Nikon DSLR. The only knob I use regularly is the ISO knob.  Focusing is pretty quick and accurate.  Although the lack of AF assist lamp means that you need to make sure you have enough contrast on your subject to focus on in extremely dark/low light environment. View finder is large and bright. And the shutter sound is pretty well damped and muted. The first time I heard it, the word "polite" came to my mind haha :D

Image quality is very good and High ISO performance is pretty amazing. It uses the flagship D4 sensor after all.  Here are 2 examples of high ISO shots SOOC.

ISO 6400 SOOC
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2841/12248160715_fbcda04c61_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/danielygo/12248160715/)

ISO 12800 SOOC
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3765/12248613264_a8126e9829_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/danielygo/12248613264/)

Skin tone is pretty nice too
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7460/12312097354_580babec50_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/danielygo/12312097354/)

So is the mono tone
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5481/12356439724_a14198d444_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/danielygo/12356439724/)

Overall I would give this a 2 thumbs up. The only complain I have is that when used with large lenses like the 70-200mm f/2.8 the camera feels a little out of balance as the torque on the wrist can be felt. I do wish someone will come out with a 3rd party grip to address this. This is not a camera for every one though as some may be put off by the "retro" look and vibe. But it works for me and that's all that matters to me :D
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: retina on February 07, 2014, 03:48:56 PM
Maligayang bati sa Df mo Dan. I am still debating whether to get the Df or the X-T1. It will be expensive if I will go the Fuji's way because I don't have the lenses yet. I have an assortment of Nikkors old and new already.I just can't justify the price yet. Maybe I will end up with d610...who knows where my gas will take me. I hope to see more of your photos with the Df. Thank you for posting.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: Death_Trap on February 07, 2014, 04:09:22 PM
([url]http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2836/10882787456_de85b5a28d_c.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/31768064@N03/10882787456/[/url])
nikonDf_011 ([url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/31768064@N03/10882787456/#[/url]) by mrBabaero ([url]http://www.flickr.com/people/31768064@N03/[/url]), on Flickr
eto yun kanyang chassis...hindi pa nilibos...kaya din gawin yan ng mga tiga cavite or malabon ::)

([url]http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7362/10882896805_f048a70359_c.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/31768064@N03/10882896805/[/url])
nikonDf_006 ([url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/31768064@N03/10882896805/#[/url]) by mrBabaero ([url]http://www.flickr.com/people/31768064@N03/[/url]), on Flickr
ano ang gusto ninyo, tisay or local blend? para sa akin, gusto ko siyempre ng tisay...pero iba pa din ang taglay na sigla ng local blend :o :o :o

([url]http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3722/10883281213_3b18b71913_c.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/31768064@N03/10883281213/[/url])
nikonDf_003 ([url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/31768064@N03/10883281213/#[/url]) by mrBabaero ([url]http://www.flickr.com/people/31768064@N03/[/url]), on Flickr
eto naman, yun sikat na photographer na may kamukha na iron chef...
ayan yun mga mauuto nila, mga tatang na walang magawa sa buhay kundi gumastos...


Pitbull

Sarap mo diyan! Parang NASA candy land ka ... Hmm ... IPon iPon for this? Sell all unit and lens just for kaya? Hahaha!
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: danielg on February 07, 2014, 04:18:34 PM
Doc. Salamat po. That was one of the reasons why I went with the Df instead of the Sony A7 kasi nga po meron na ako mga lenses ng Nikon. Then the kicker is that my wife contributed to the funds and so I was able to buy it :)
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: pitbull on February 07, 2014, 04:19:22 PM
para sa Df? :o :o :o
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: danielg on February 07, 2014, 04:29:20 PM
para sa Df? :o :o :o

Di ko po na gets Idol Rick :)
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: pitbull on February 07, 2014, 05:01:20 PM
di ko na gets yun sinabi ni robson :o :o :o
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: pitbull on February 07, 2014, 05:23:10 PM
http://rickhophotography.weebly.com/1/post/2014/02/the-nikon-df-during-the-product-launch.html (http://rickhophotography.weebly.com/1/post/2014/02/the-nikon-df-during-the-product-launch.html)

buhayin ko lang yun mga lumang d'Pitbull show ko :o :o :o
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: danielg on February 08, 2014, 09:46:59 AM
Idol Rick, it is really a polarizing camera. Many people pick it up and hold it for 20-30 mins at most then either they like it or hate it and immediately slam it. I guess I am one of those who love it immediately when I held it while you are one of those who really disliked it  :)

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3714/12374736744_d45d3e0fe6_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/danielygo/12374736744/)
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: pitbull on February 08, 2014, 02:40:59 PM
pinilit kong gustuhin pero wala talaga. anyway more power to you :o :o :o

nice shot, post ka naman ng mga hi ISO samples
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: danielg on February 11, 2014, 10:05:16 AM
Sige idol :)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7390/12446492435_a5a4271ff0_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/danielygo/12446492435/)
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: retina on March 12, 2014, 12:00:56 PM
Frankenstein is the Lord of darkness:

http://petapixel.com/2014/03/11/nikon-d4s-beats-canons-1d-x-dxomark-tests-falls-short-df-low-light/ (http://petapixel.com/2014/03/11/nikon-d4s-beats-canons-1d-x-dxomark-tests-falls-short-df-low-light/)
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: seismicshift on March 26, 2014, 08:23:45 AM
I can relate, finally have one "in my hands again". This one's a keeper.
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: retina on March 26, 2014, 08:47:56 AM
I can relate, finally have one "in my hands again". This one's a keeper.
Any portrait of the black beauty? 8) 8) 8) Congrats...
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: danielg on March 26, 2014, 01:29:17 PM
I can relate, finally have one "in my hands again". This one's a keeper.

Congrats :)
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: chaloy on March 26, 2014, 10:02:05 PM
http://www.dannyst.com/shooting-low-light-portraits-with-the-nikon-df/ (http://www.dannyst.com/shooting-low-light-portraits-with-the-nikon-df/)
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: seismicshift on April 06, 2014, 08:27:20 AM
I can relate, finally have one "in my hands again". This one's a keeper.
Any portrait of the black beauty? 8) 8) 8) Congrats...


Here it is Dok. Holy week 'round the corner. Will be running this baby through its paces.(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa180/seismicshift/_ICT0322_zpscbaf0223.jpg) (http://s200.photobucket.com/user/seismicshift/media/_ICT0322_zpscbaf0223.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Essence of "Pure Photography": Nikon Df
Post by: retina on April 06, 2014, 12:14:06 PM
Thanks  Larry.
She's beautiful. ;)