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Camera to complement your phone
« on: October 23, 2017, 03:06:37 AM »
Are you looking to buy a camera to complement your smartphone but dont know what to get? Then read on!

If size & weight are important and you have no plans to buy a 2nd lens then a point & shoot with a large image sensor like those found in a Four Thirds, APS-C, Full frame camera may be of interest to you.

Large image sensor allows for better image quality than any and all smartphones.

Their built-in lens tends to have faster f-number than the kit lens of mirrorless or dSLRs.

They also have WiFi, Bluetooth and NFC to complement and connect to your smartphone.

Listed below are some of these cameras that are smaller & weigh less than their mirrorless counterpart. These are accurate as of the date of this posting.

Full Frame
- Leica Q (Type 116) < looks like a Leica M camera but with auto focus and auto aperture
- Sony RX1R II
- Sony RX1R
- Sony RX1

APS-C
- Fujifilm X100F
- Ricoh GR II
- Canon G1 Mark III
- Fujifilm X70
- Leica X-U (Typ 113)

Four Thirds
- Leica D-LUX (Typ 109)
- Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX100

Another option that offers higher utility may be buying a flagship phone like a Google Pixel 2 or iPhone 8.

You may leave your new camera at home but never your phone.

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Camera to complement your phone
« on: October 23, 2017, 03:06:37 AM »

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Re: Camera to complement your phone
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2017, 11:00:31 PM »
Just out of curiosity, why wasn't the Huawei P10 not included (along with Google and Iphone) when I have read that it is a good camera phone?

Thanks @dolina  for those info  ;)
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Re: Camera to complement your phone
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2017, 12:14:43 AM »
Just out of curiosity, why wasn't the Huawei P10 not included (along with Google and Iphone) when I have read that it is a good camera phone?

Thanks @dolina  for those info  ;)


Good question bbc.

Other than the camera hardware and app that produces the image quality I also put weight on the (a) day to day user experience of the phone and (b) years of software updates.

Since 2011 Apple has provided 5 years of software updates for the iPhone. So if you have 2013 iPhone 5s today it would have the same iOS version as the 2017 iPhone X.

Google is on record guaranteeing 3 years of software updates for the Pixel 2. Sweetening the deal further owners get Unlimited Full-Res Storage Until 2020.

Imagine how it is if your Nikon D5000 had a modified UI from the Nikon standard that was slow because of bloatware. Imagine if you will you only get firmware updates for less than 1 year and if you're lucky just 2 years. On the 25th month a firmware bug appears that causes missed AF every 10th image and the shutter randomly changes even in manual mode. Nikon doesn't release a fix but instead offers a Nikon 6000 instead.

Imagine having 2013 Windows 8.1 and when 2015 Windows 10 was released Microsoft halts further Windows Update for 8.1.

To put things into perspective Microsft has supported Windows XP from 2001 until 2014.

That's what I and Google have issue with and what Apple points out at previous Apple keynotes. Google is correcting this but not all Android brands are on board due to hardware support from parts makers like Qualcomm and the expense of supporting older hardware on razer thin margins.

Another I have and I was just made aware of just yesterday is that Android 8 Oreo is the first version of Android to support Color management. If you care about color accuracy from device to device then this is rather important. ;)

Don't believe me then name me any 2013 Android phone from Samsung, LG, Moto, Huawei, VIVO, Xiaomi, Lenovo, Oppo, Sony, etc that is currently running on Android 8 Oreo. My 2013 iPad Air is running on iOS 11.0.3 that was released 12 days ago.

I think any of the top 10 phones listed on DXOMark will produce great images for a phone but you use your phone for other things and if doesnt do it that well then you just have a great camera and a so so phone.

It was pointed out to me that Nikon is selling a mirrorless system with a 1" image sensor. So for the purpose of completeness here are point & shoots with up to 1" image sensor.

1.5"

* Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark II

1"

* Sony RX0 1.0"-Type Sensor Ultra-Compact Waterproof/Shockproof
* Canon PowerShot G7 X Mark II
* Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 V
* Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 III
* Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100
* Canon PowerShot G9 X Mark II
* Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX10
* Canon PowerShot G3 X
* Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-RX100 IV
* Canon PowerShot G9 X
* Canon PowerShot G5 X
* Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 V
* Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS100

Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 VI is rumored to be announced within this week.
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Re: Camera to complement your phone
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2018, 09:43:57 AM »
"The best camera you can ever own is the one with you always."

good read sir!

That is why i like having a smartphone with a good camera (huawei p9+) and my "small" camera is a mirrorless eos m with a pancake (22mm f2).

the eos m is not THE best. but good enough for my needs and pwede ko dalhin araw-araw sa bag.

on the p9+ with their touted "leica optics", i still think and feel, that samsung phones (especially the note and s series which i have experience using, note 2 and note 4) have the better image quality, faster and more accurate focus. kung may budget, i would go back to the note series.

sorry no experience with apple phones.

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Re: Camera to complement your phone
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2018, 09:57:06 PM »
Thanks on this post! Now I have many options and ideas.

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Re: Camera to complement your phone
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2018, 04:26:09 AM »
Thanks a lot for this list, dolina.

I was looking at the Olympus TG-5 because of its great macro capabilities -- it can focus at 0.4 inch -- but its sensor is only 1/2.3". The RX-100 has 1" sensor (your list included III, IV, and V but I found the I also has 1" sensor and priced comparable to TG-5's) but minimum focusing distance is 2 inches. But with the RX-100's bigger sensor, would the longer distance matter? Just curious what anyone thinks. Both can shoot RAW.

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Re: Camera to complement your phone
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2018, 10:54:32 PM »
Went with the RX100m1. (m3 price difference too big for intended use.) It's for the wife to -- as OP said -- complement her mirrorless and telephoto-zoom. If it weren't for the list I probably would not have considered 1" sensors. Thank you, dolina.

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Re: Camera to complement your phone
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2018, 12:13:49 PM »
me and my wife are using xioami phones. ( i am using the older xiaomi mi max and she is using the newer xiaomi A1) photo and video image quality for both phones are more than acceptable, however i still use both my sony A7 and a6000 to complement my phone since i can control the camera directly via the playmemories app on the smartphone as well as transfer files directly frmo the camera to my phone when i run out of space on the camera's memory card. My wife is using the much older canon powershot N as her video camera since the small size of the powershot N makes it easy to bring along for walks or holidays.

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Re: Camera to complement your phone
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2018, 09:26:21 PM »
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