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Title: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: PARC on February 05, 2006, 06:08:08 PM
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Quote from: shuttercat,Jul 5 2005, 11:39 AM
We live in a tropical country with high relative humidity. Gear stored in the cabinets/drawers for sometime, specially camera lenses get attacked by fungus growth. How can we prevent our expensive gear from getting fungus.

There are 'dry boxes/cabinets' in the market which cost from 2+k to over 10k pesos.

What about cheaper alternatives.

The smallest 'dry box', is a toolbox size with a rechargeable desicant, this is a little over 2k pesos.

For cheaper alternatives, you can go the DIY way. Airtight boxes (I use the Lock n Lock) can be bought in Department Stores. The 9.6 liter LnL box is about 480 pesos. Silica gel is sold by most photo shops in Hidalgo at 90 pesos or so per pack. A digital hygrometer for measuring relative humity (moisture) is about 750 at National Bookstore or Infomaxx. I think a cheaper analog hygrometer can be found at SM.

The silca gel can be recharged by putting it in the oven, or in the case of beads, pwede 'isangag sa kawali' or on sunny days, put on the roof.


Please continue discussion on this thread. Thanks!

PARC

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jrj on February 07, 2006, 09:25:54 PM
I got a dry box (size of a mini ref) from Aperture trading about 4 years ago and is working fine with no problems at all. Keeps most of my cameras and lenses. The glass door has a lock  and has a hygrometer to measure humidity.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kieron on February 07, 2006, 10:53:26 PM
I got a dry box (size of a mini ref) from Aperture trading about 4 years ago and is working fine with no problems at all. Keeps most of my cameras and lenses. The glass door has a lock  and has a hygrometer to measure humidity.

Hi sir! do you have a photo of your drybox?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: judell74 on February 08, 2006, 07:41:54 AM
Heto mga dryboxes ng Aperture....

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b161/judell74/others/IMG_6161.jpg)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Mandrake on February 08, 2006, 07:59:17 AM
Heto mga dryboxes ng Aperture....

([url]http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b161/judell74/others/IMG_6161.jpg[/url])



Hayan pala mga dryboxes ng Haperture Hanef!!!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: dni on February 08, 2006, 08:22:15 AM
around how much ba yung mga dry boxes ng Aperture?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nelman on February 08, 2006, 09:49:35 AM
salamat po sa tips regarding the silica gel... may tanong lang po ako mga sir, is there a way of knowing when to recharge the gel? or do we have to recharge them regularly? thanks po in advance!

Quote from: shuttercat,Jul 5 2005, 11:39 AM
The silca gel can be recharged by putting it in the oven, or in the case of beads, pwede 'isangag sa kawali' or on sunny days, put on the roof.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: syuter on February 08, 2006, 12:17:11 PM
i bought a 10liter lock n lock box for my DIY dry box and a box of silica gel in True Value worth 60pesos, i think. the silica gel is packed into 25pcs. inside the box is a D70, 50mm 1.8, 18-50mm, 70-300mm, sb600. ilang pack of silica gel po dapat ang ilagay ko sa box?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on February 08, 2006, 07:04:47 PM
how much does a real drybox cost? . tanong lang po mga bosing
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: rave on February 09, 2006, 12:30:44 AM
salamat po sa tips regarding the silica gel... may tanong lang po ako mga sir, is there a way of knowing when to recharge the gel? or do we have to recharge them regularly? thanks po in advance!



Hello nelman.. share ko lang experience ko on my DIY drybox.. I'm also kinda new with the drybox thing pero based on what I've read regarding fungal growth.. fungus needs at least 70% RH to grow so I make sure my drybox is about 50-60% RH.. di ko pinapalampas ng 60% just to be extra safe..  :)

@syuter - i also use a 10L Lock n Lock box.. I use about 8 - 12 packets of silica gel (box of 25 packets bought at True Value) mas maganda if you have a hygrometer para may basis ka. Pag tumaas yung RH (about 60% and above) a few mins after closing the box.. that means the silica gel needs charging..
 
Again.. these are only based on my personal experience.. any additional info., comments and suggestions would be gladly appreciated..  :D

Here are a couple of pics of my drybox.. wala pa ako budget for a "real" drybox kaya DIY muna.. hehehe.
(http://static.flickr.com/37/97176188_eacd485218_o_d.jpg)

(http://static.flickr.com/29/97176208_af6455605b_d.jpg) 
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: judell74 on February 09, 2006, 01:22:44 AM
Quote
Hayan pala mga dryboxes ng Haperture Hanef!!!

indi ka Kafanfangan no? :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: diver on February 09, 2006, 01:30:31 AM
how much does a real drybox cost? . tanong lang po mga bosing


They have one at True Value na Tackle Box type with a hygrometer na and it's around P2000.00 ( was looking at it last week lang ).
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: judell74 on February 09, 2006, 01:45:03 AM
how much does a real drybox cost? . tanong lang po mga bosing


They have one at True Value na Tackle Box type with a hygrometer na and it's around P2000.00 ( was looking at it last week lang ).

Maliit lang yata yan eh. Yung sa aperture na parang ref, around 5k to 10k yata?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: syuter on February 09, 2006, 08:15:45 AM
@rave - thanks sir for the tip... currently i'm using 3 packs. kulang pa pala.   :) mukang importante nga talaga ung hygrometer...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Estong on February 09, 2006, 08:50:17 AM
I like it to DIY....

Where do you buy a hygrometer and how much does it cost?

 ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: raymie_v on February 09, 2006, 09:55:25 AM
My DIY which is a good solution really is tupperware.  That's right.  It is air tight and water tight as well.  Get a good sized tupperware box, put some silica gel to absorb the moisture that is "in" the box when you close it and you can expect no more moisture to penetrate it until you open the box again.  Hope this helps.   ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: rave on February 09, 2006, 10:05:09 AM
@syuter - Yup.. important talaga hygrometer.. bumababa kasi yung absorption capacity ng silica gel the longer you use it and pag madalas mo buksan yung drybox. Pag na reach na ng silica gel yung limit sa pag absorb ng moisture, instead of pababain yung %RH, most likely patataasin pa yun.. That's why kailangan mo talaga mamonitor yung %RH.. Too high (approx 60% and above) = fungal growth | Too low (approx 40% and below) = possible drying of lubricant for both the lens and mechanical parts inside the camera body. 

@Estong - nabili ko po yung Hygrometer sa Infomax Parksquare @ P750.. Pati sa Infomax megamall meron din. May nakikita din ako na mga table top clocks w/ analog Hygrometer sa SM department stores.. dun sa accessories section.. Mas cheaper yun than the digital Hygro... siguro mga nasa P200+

@raymie_v - oki din ang tupperware. basta ang important is air-tight yung container :) hindi kasi magiging effective yung silica gel pag hindi air-tight   
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: syuter on February 09, 2006, 10:25:09 AM
@rave - thanks sir for the info... i'll try to look for a hygrometer later sa glorieta @ photoworld.. sana may sale.... hehehe... ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Estong on February 09, 2006, 10:30:54 AM
thanks for the info...   ;)

@syuter - Yup.. important talaga hygrometer.. bumababa kasi yung absorption capacity ng silica gel the longer you use it and pag madalas mo buksan yung drybox. Pag na reach na ng silica gel yung limit sa pag absorb ng moisture, instead of pababain yung %RH, most likely patataasin pa yun.. That's why kailangan mo talaga mamonitor yung %RH.. Too high (approx 60% and above) = fungal growth | Too low (approx 40% and below) = possible drying of lubricant for both the lens and mechanical parts inside the camera body. 

@Estong - nabili ko po yung Hygrometer sa Infomax Parksquare @ P750.. Pati sa Infomax megamall meron din. May nakikita din ako na mga table top clocks w/ analog Hygrometer sa SM department stores.. dun sa accessories section.. Mas cheaper yun than the digital Hygro... siguro mga nasa P200+

@raymie_v - oki din ang tupperware. basta ang important is air-tight yung container :) hindi kasi magiging effective yung silica gel pag hindi air-tight   
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: rave on February 09, 2006, 10:38:52 AM
You're welcome guys...  ;D Buti pa kayo makakapunta na ngayon sa Photoworld.. ako bukas pa.. hehehe
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: syuter on February 09, 2006, 10:57:22 AM
You're welcome guys...  ;D Buti pa kayo makakapunta na ngayon sa Photoworld.. ako bukas pa.. hehehe

pupunta lang sir... buti kung may pambili... di naman bawal mangarap e.. hehe.. ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: judell74 on February 09, 2006, 10:15:34 PM
OT:

Kung may credit cards kayo and pupunta kayo sa photoworld, dont bring your CC's or else makilala nyo si TUKSO! ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nelman on February 10, 2006, 08:27:35 AM
@ sir rave...

maraming salamat sa tips at sa info regarding the gel and the hygrometer sir! galing nung dry box nyo, DIY and simple, pero effective at highly portable. :)

Hello nelman.. share ko lang experience ko on my DIY drybox.. I'm also kinda new with the drybox thing pero based on what I've read regarding fungal growth.. fungus needs at least 70% RH to grow so I make sure my drybox is about 50-60% RH.. di ko pinapalampas ng 60% just to be extra safe..  :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: photojazz on February 10, 2006, 10:15:18 PM
Heto mga dryboxes ng Aperture....

([url]http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b161/judell74/others/IMG_6161.jpg[/url])



Hayan pala mga dryboxes ng Haperture Hanef!!!


hikaw talhaga mndrhake ha... mandrake on the loose heheh
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: rave on February 11, 2006, 06:31:59 PM
@ sir rave...

maraming salamat sa tips at sa info regarding the gel and the hygrometer sir! galing nung dry box nyo, DIY and simple, pero effective at highly portable. :)

Nyek!! wag mo na ako i-"sir".. baguhan lang din ako and ginawa ko lang yung DIY drybox based sa mga nabasa ko.. hehehe..
you're welcome..  :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on February 13, 2006, 12:42:32 AM
sige nga gagawa narin ako ng dry box ko . kinakabahan na ako sa mga fungus fungus na yan
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ogre on February 13, 2006, 12:49:33 AM
sige nga gagawa narin ako ng dry box ko . kinakabahan na ako sa mga fungus fungus na yan
you need not worry if you use your gear regularly.  at least once a week would do.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on February 13, 2006, 12:55:54 AM
ah ok .. pero for protection sake nalang din . .atleast diba malay mo .. biglang magkaalipunga ang cam ko .. hay mahal pa naman ang nizoral ... hehehe jk :D.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: rave on February 13, 2006, 01:38:26 AM
Hahaha.. nice one bro... :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: erworm on February 13, 2006, 08:04:03 AM
I was able to get my hygormeter at infomax for 700... baka cheaper dahil nandun si shuttercat nun... eh maraming binibili... baka sa akin napunta yung discount.... :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: daney_waney on February 13, 2006, 08:50:00 AM
I was able to get my hygormeter at infomax for 700... baka cheaper dahil nandun si shuttercat nun... eh maraming binibili... baka sa akin napunta yung discount.... :)

I thought you were using the one from Fuma? I bpought one from there too. Why did you buy a new one from Infomax? :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: erworm on February 13, 2006, 12:53:28 PM
I was able to get my hygormeter at infomax for 700... baka cheaper dahil nandun si shuttercat nun... eh maraming binibili... baka sa akin napunta yung discount.... :)

I thought you were using the one from Fuma? I bpought one from there too. Why did you buy a new one from Infomax? :D

parang di gumagalaw yung galing fuma ko eh :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on February 13, 2006, 03:34:30 PM
di po ba pwede thermometer nalang ? :D pareho naman din po yung me meter ?  "jk"

meron kaya ditong bentahan ng hygormeter? ..
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ogre on February 13, 2006, 05:46:13 PM
di po ba pwede thermometer nalang ? :D pareho naman din po yung me meter ?  "jk"

meron kaya ditong bentahan ng hygormeter? ..
meron cheap hygrometer sa sm dept store in megamall, sa may men's accessories.  3-in-1, clock, thermometer and hygrometer for under 180php.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: voodoo on February 13, 2006, 07:19:54 PM
di po ba pwede thermometer nalang ? :D pareho naman din po yung me meter ?  "jk"

meron kaya ditong bentahan ng hygormeter? ..
meron cheap hygrometer sa sm dept store in megamall, sa may men's accessories.  3-in-1, clock, thermometer and hygrometer for under 180php.

bulaknoy, kung makakapunta ka and bibili ka, bilhan mo muna ako! :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: mike on February 14, 2006, 12:01:59 AM

parang di gumagalaw yung galing fuma ko eh :)

kelan ka bumili sir, kasi meron isa dun na parang sira ata kasi ang baba ng reading. last sun ako nakabili. 4 na nga lang ang stock nila tapos yung isa e sira ata.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: erworm on February 14, 2006, 09:24:50 AM

parang di gumagalaw yung galing fuma ko eh :)

kelan ka bumili sir, kasi meron isa dun na parang sira ata kasi ang baba ng reading. last sun ako nakabili. 4 na nga lang ang stock nila tapos yung isa e sira ata.

matagal na eh... and when I bought dalawa lang ang nandun... isang napakababa... at eto mataas... oh well... at least mas accurate na yung sa digital version :)... i hope :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on February 14, 2006, 10:51:13 AM
kelangan po bang vacuum sealed ang box? .. or pwede nang hindi as long me silica gel ??? ...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on February 14, 2006, 10:54:02 AM
di po ba pwede thermometer nalang ? :D pareho naman din po yung me meter ?  "jk"

meron kaya ditong bentahan ng hygormeter? ..
meron cheap hygrometer sa sm dept store in megamall, sa may men's accessories.  3-in-1, clock, thermometer and hygrometer for under 180php.

naku sa sm mega mall pa ako bibili ... 5k ang roundtrip ticket papuntang manila ... hehehhe :D ...

makapaghanap ng sa sm davao :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on February 14, 2006, 10:56:49 AM
salamat po sa tips regarding the silica gel... may tanong lang po ako mga sir, is there a way of knowing when to recharge the gel? or do we have to recharge them regularly? thanks po in advance!



Hello nelman.. share ko lang experience ko on my DIY drybox.. I'm also kinda new with the drybox thing pero based on what I've read regarding fungal growth.. fungus needs at least 70% RH to grow so I make sure my drybox is about 50-60% RH.. di ko pinapalampas ng 60% just to be extra safe..  :)

@syuter - i also use a 10L Lock n Lock box.. I use about 8 - 12 packets of silica gel (box of 25 packets bought at True Value) mas maganda if you have a hygrometer para may basis ka. Pag tumaas yung RH (about 60% and above) a few mins after closing the box.. that means the silica gel needs charging..
 
Again.. these are only based on my personal experience.. any additional info., comments and suggestions would be gladly appreciated..  :D

Here are a couple of pics of my drybox.. wala pa ako budget for a "real" drybox kaya DIY muna.. hehehe.
([url]http://static.flickr.com/37/97176188_eacd485218_o_d.jpg[/url])

([url]http://static.flickr.com/29/97176208_af6455605b_d.jpg[/url]) 


sir san nyo po nabili yung yellow na matting mo :D.. hehehe ... wala akong makita eh
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: erworm on February 14, 2006, 12:57:28 PM
your diy dry box has to be sealed... kasi papasok pa rin ang moisture kung hindi...

you can buy those anti slip kitchen mat tops... actually, yung sa pic ata placemat :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on February 14, 2006, 04:15:01 PM
grabe yang hygrometer .. di alam ng mga sales person sa lahat ng pinuntahan ko kaasar... hehehe

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: artwalk on February 14, 2006, 04:55:29 PM
Hello nelman.. share ko lang experience ko on my DIY drybox.. I'm also kinda new with the drybox thing pero based on what I've read regarding fungal growth.. fungus needs at least 70% RH to grow so I make sure my drybox is about 50-60% RH.. di ko pinapalampas ng 60% just to be extra safe..  :)

@syuter - i also use a 10L Lock n Lock box.. I use about 8 - 12 packets of silica gel (box of 25 packets bought at True Value) mas maganda if you have a hygrometer para may basis ka. Pag tumaas yung RH (about 60% and above) a few mins after closing the box.. that means the silica gel needs charging..

@rave, where did you exactly buy your 10L Lock n Lock box? hirap maghanap ng ganyan kalaki!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: syuter on February 15, 2006, 09:07:56 AM
Hello nelman.. share ko lang experience ko on my DIY drybox.. I'm also kinda new with the drybox thing pero based on what I've read regarding fungal growth.. fungus needs at least 70% RH to grow so I make sure my drybox is about 50-60% RH.. di ko pinapalampas ng 60% just to be extra safe..  :)

@syuter - i also use a 10L Lock n Lock box.. I use about 8 - 12 packets of silica gel (box of 25 packets bought at True Value) mas maganda if you have a hygrometer para may basis ka. Pag tumaas yung RH (about 60% and above) a few mins after closing the box.. that means the silica gel needs charging..

@rave, where did you exactly buy your 10L Lock n Lock box? hirap maghanap ng ganyan kalaki!

yun pong 10L Lock n Lock ko nabili ko sa SouthMall. i asked the sales lady for a new stock but according to her it was their last piece. so kahit may minor scratches ung top, i took it. :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on February 15, 2006, 10:12:35 AM
@artwork sir .. sa handyman .. dami silang stock .. yesterday po nakabili ako sa kanila :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Estong on February 15, 2006, 10:20:08 AM
Same experience here... di ka nag-iisa... haaayyy!!!

Mabuti pa maghanap na nga lang kesa magtanong eh....  :-X


grabe yang hygrometer .. di alam ng mga sales person sa lahat ng pinuntahan ko kaasar... hehehe
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on February 15, 2006, 11:03:22 AM
Same experience here... di ka nag-iisa... haaayyy!!!

Mabuti pa maghanap na nga lang kesa magtanong eh....  :-X


grabe yang hygrometer .. di alam ng mga sales person sa lahat ng pinuntahan ko kaasar... hehehe

uu nga maghahanap nalang ako .. malay mo di lang talaga nila alam kung ano yun .. kahit nga siguro ako pag di ko pa nakita or nalaman kung ano yun di ko rin alam yon noh :D... hehehe

hanap mode :)

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: artwalk on February 15, 2006, 03:15:06 PM
@artwork sir .. sa handyman .. dami silang stock .. yesterday po nakabili ako sa kanila :D

@bulaknoy, thanks for the tip. i'll check out the handyman branches here in dasmariñas. which handyman branch ba di you see them?(just in case i don't find them near my place.) thanks again!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on February 15, 2006, 03:21:15 PM
@artwork sir .. sa handyman .. dami silang stock .. yesterday po nakabili ako sa kanila :D

@bulaknoy, thanks for the tip. i'll check out the handyman branches here in dasmariñas. which handyman branch ba di you see them?(just in case i don't find them near my place.) thanks again!

davao branch :D .. hehehehehe
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: rave on February 15, 2006, 11:24:22 PM
you can buy those anti slip kitchen mat tops... actually, yung sa pic ata placemat :)

Yup yup... placemat po yun.. cut in half.. heheh.. Bought it sa SM department store.  :D underneath is a plastic grill type tray thingy that comes with the box.. sa ilalim nun naka lagay yung 12 packets of silica gel. ;D

@rave, where did you exactly buy your 10L Lock n Lock box? hirap maghanap ng ganyan kalaki!

Hello.. sa SM department store ko nabili yang box.. meron din sa SM supermarket. Actually 2 types ang 10L ng Lock and Lock. Yung isang type is longer pero much lower yung height.. and merong parang switch of some sort sa top cover. Once pa lang ako nakakita ng ganun - more expensive than the box that I have.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jason_b on February 15, 2006, 11:30:51 PM
its so hrad to look for a cheap hygrometer di ba pwede sa physics convertion ang thermometer to hygrometer? manualy calculation hehehe! ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on February 16, 2006, 02:27:20 AM
tatlong mall na naikot wala parin akong makitang hygrometer na yan .. hay .. sm nalang d ko naiikot :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: erworm on February 16, 2006, 10:47:12 AM
tatlong mall na naikot wala parin akong makitang hygrometer na yan .. hay .. sm nalang d ko naiikot :D

try mo tumingin sa cigar shops... cigars also need to be stored at a certain rh level... meron sa Fuma, 300 or 350 yung dial type, meron din silang digital version na maliit lang... parang pen, 1.2k nga lang :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on February 16, 2006, 11:02:54 AM
OMG ... expensive pala yon . :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: erworm on February 16, 2006, 11:08:27 AM
OMG ... expensive pala yon . :D

oo nga eh... pero meron daw cheaper, but just like you, I couldn't seem to find a salesperson who knows what a hygrometer is... you can also try infomax, 750 ang digital nila, pero as big as an old PDA :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Estong on February 16, 2006, 11:17:00 AM
@bulaknoy,

sm shops meron... punta ka sa men's accessories section... meron dun table top clocks with thermometer and hygrometer... analog nga lang pero it works just fine... I bought one last monday.... so far RH ng DIY dry box ko naglalaro sa 58. Nung binili ko yun asa 60+ eh...


 ;)

tatlong mall na naikot wala parin akong makitang hygrometer na yan .. hay .. sm nalang d ko naiikot :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on February 16, 2006, 11:18:33 AM
@bulaknoy,

sm shops meron... punta ka sa men's accessories section... meron dun table top clocks with thermometer and hygrometer... analog nga lang pero it works just fine... I bought one last monday.... so far RH ng DIY dry box ko naglalaro na 58. Nung binili ko yun asa 60+ eh...


 ;)

tatlong mall na naikot wala parin akong makitang hygrometer na yan .. hay .. sm nalang d ko naiikot :D

yahoo sige po check ko mamaya :D hmmm baka kasi lumalampas na ng 100+ ang PH este RH pala.. ang drybox ko .. heheh
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: voodoo on February 16, 2006, 10:21:52 PM
my DIY Dry Box... hindi aabot ng 1K :D

Lock & Lock (w/ top handle), Analog Hygro w/ Temp (from SM Dept), Silica Gel and a glue gun... viola!!!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v660/jondextan/drybox.jpg)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Doughn on February 16, 2006, 11:40:54 PM
my DIY Dry Box... hindi aabot ng 1K :D

Lock & Lock (w/ top handle), Analog Hygro w/ Temp (from SM Dept), Silica Gel and a glue gun... viola!!!

([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v660/jondextan/drybox.jpg[/url])


sir voodoo,

may i ask where did u buy the box and hygrometer , silica gel and its cost?  thanks

peace

-doughn
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on February 16, 2006, 11:47:54 PM
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sir voodoo,

may i ask where did u buy the box and hygrometer , silica gel and its cost?  thanks

peace

-doughn

sir the box is available on any Handy Man outlet... bout the hygrometer hmmm sm dept. store hehehe bibibli na ako bukas silica gel harware din

Lock n Lock = P450
Analog Hygrometer = P180
Silica Gel bag= P10

hope nakatulong po ako .. btw davao rates po yan .. for sure mas mura sa manila to

:D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: voodoo on February 16, 2006, 11:59:40 PM
right on brad! :D shete, 62 HR reading ko... dry out ko ang silica bukas!!! :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: daney_waney on February 17, 2006, 01:02:34 AM
Ah talaga? Hmm.. That's weird! Mine is moving. I tried it in different rooms and gumagalaw naman siya :D


I was able to get my hygormeter at infomax for 700... baka cheaper dahil nandun si shuttercat nun... eh maraming binibili... baka sa akin napunta yung discount.... :)

I thought you were using the one from Fuma? I bpought one from there too. Why did you buy a new one from Infomax? :D

parang di gumagalaw yung galing fuma ko eh :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: danielg on February 17, 2006, 09:20:55 AM
sir the box is available on any Handy Man outlet... bout the hygrometer hmmm sm dept. store hehehe bibibli na ako bukas silica gel harware din

Lock n Lock = P450
Analog Hygrometer = P180
Silica Gel bag= P10

hope nakatulong po ako .. btw davao rates po yan .. for sure mas mura sa manila to

:D

Ano size po nung box? (how many liters capacity?)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: rave on February 17, 2006, 10:44:01 AM
Ano size po nung box? (how many liters capacity?)

Its a 10L Lock n Lock box po.. :D same as mine.. i posted a pic of it.. the one with the yellow matting...  :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Doughn on February 17, 2006, 10:52:02 AM
Quote
sir voodoo,

may i ask where did u buy the box and hygrometer , silica gel and its cost?  thanks

peace

-doughn

sir the box is available on any Handy Man outlet... bout the hygrometer hmmm sm dept. store hehehe bibibli na ako bukas silica gel harware din

Lock n Lock = P450
Analog Hygrometer = P180
Silica Gel bag= P10

hope nakatulong po ako .. btw davao rates po yan .. for sure mas mura sa manila to

:D


thanks sir for the info.

wow, are u from davao? kapitbhay pala tayo im from cotabato, now im in manila. bili nako dto para maka tipid ng konte.

-doughn
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on February 17, 2006, 12:10:30 PM
Quote
sir voodoo,

may i ask where did u buy the box and hygrometer , silica gel and its cost?  thanks

peace

-doughn


sir the box is available on any Handy Man outlet... bout the hygrometer hmmm sm dept. store hehehe bibibli na ako bukas silica gel harware din

Lock n Lock = P450
Analog Hygrometer = P180
Silica Gel bag= P10

hope nakatulong po ako .. btw davao rates po yan .. for sure mas mura sa manila to

:D



thanks sir for the info.

wow, are u from davao? kapitbhay pala tayo im from cotabato, now im in manila. bili nako dto para maka tipid ng konte.

-doughn


:D... mukhang same lang din naman eh :D.. mura yata ng konti .. price diff mga P5.00 :P .. oi san po sa cotabato? .


sir Dan 10 Liters po :D...

eto po post ko po yung drybox ko (lock n lock model)


(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/bulaknoy/Image132.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/bulaknoy/Image135.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/bulaknoy/Image136.jpg)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: boylit on February 17, 2006, 02:57:31 PM
do i have to use silica gel or will those closet dehumidifiers (the ones that are sold in true value/ace hardware) do? i read the label and the content is calcium chloride. brands i saw were "high five" and "thirsty hippo"

(http://my.ecplaza.net/oxy/5l.jpg)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: middlegrey on February 17, 2006, 03:19:29 PM
dehumidifiers are for closets, it could spell doom for your photo gear. rummage through the thread archives, this has been discussed before.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on February 17, 2006, 03:22:16 PM
nako .. wag po .. heheh mangngamoy ang cam mo :D..
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: boylit on February 17, 2006, 03:23:28 PM
thanks for the info... buti na lang i asked 1st...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on February 17, 2006, 03:28:49 PM
thanks for the info... buti na lang i asked 1st...

sir mura lang po ang silica gel P10/pack po .. mga 10 packs enough na po yon :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Doughn on February 17, 2006, 03:32:22 PM


:D... mukhang same lang din naman eh :D.. mura yata ng konti .. price diff mga P5.00 :P .. oi san po sa cotabato? .



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cotabato city mismo po sir :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on February 17, 2006, 03:35:02 PM
OT .. wow.. layo parin .. hehehe 4 hours yata travel papunta jan :D.. di pa ako nakakapunta ng Cotabato City.. South Cotabato lagi :D.. well nice to hear that marami pala kaming fellow "mindanawans" dito sa pipho :D

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: danielg on February 18, 2006, 10:37:50 AM
sir Dan 10 Liters po :D...

Ok thanks, went ot SM yesterday all I saw was 6.8Liters lang :(
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: schnitzerz4 on February 18, 2006, 12:49:11 PM
guys question po tungkol sa drybox ng aperture

pwede ko ba gamitin yung ng hinde ko iplug? hehehehhehe kasi laga naman akong wala sa bahay so wala rin titingin :(
tinitingnan ko kasi sila mukhang mas safe ito kaysa ipatong ko lang sa aparador pag balik ko kasi daming
alikabok eh :( any idea? or may iba pang drybox style?

yhanks po
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: WildSwan on February 18, 2006, 01:01:28 PM
You mean use the device as an ordinary Cabinet? YAMAN! Hehehe

Sure you can. Place some Silica na rin inside to avoid moisture. :D

guys question po tungkol sa drybox ng aperture

pwede ko ba gamitin yung ng hinde ko iplug? hehehehhehe kasi laga naman akong wala sa bahay so wala rin titingin :(
tinitingnan ko kasi sila mukhang mas safe ito kaysa ipatong ko lang sa aparador pag balik ko kasi daming
alikabok eh :( any idea? or may iba pang drybox style?

yhanks po
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: comfoosed on February 19, 2006, 05:08:15 PM
Hi,

At what temperature and how long do you dry (recharge) silica gel sachets in a gas oven?  Microwave oven?

I have several silica gel sachets in fabric-like sacs which need to be dried?  How do you do this without burning the sacs?

How often do you guys do this?

Thanks for any advice.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: htap on February 19, 2006, 09:04:55 PM
sir the box is available on any Handy Man outlet... bout the hygrometer hmmm sm dept. store hehehe bibibli na ako bukas silica gel harware din

Lock n Lock = P450
Analog Hygrometer = P180
Silica Gel bag= P10

hope nakatulong po ako .. btw davao rates po yan .. for sure mas mura sa manila to

:D

Question lang po regarding the Analog Hygrometer. Which part of SM Dept. Store is this located?
Tapos Silica Gel sa kahit anong Hardware po? I asked on some hardware store. they dont even know what a Silica Gel bag is. hmmm..

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: gaston799 on February 20, 2006, 01:32:07 PM
i just got my thermohygro from SM infomax yesterday for P650 :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ice on February 20, 2006, 02:28:07 PM
Hi,

At what temperature and how long do you dry (recharge) silica gel sachets in a gas oven?  Microwave oven?

I have several silica gel sachets in fabric-like sacs which need to be dried?  How do you do this without burning the sacs?

How often do you guys do this?

Thanks for any advice.

Don't know about the temperature but I "recharge" my silica gels the old fashion way - Bilad sa araw!  ;) Siguro from 2pm - 5 pm would be enough given na it's under direct sunlight.

How often - pag napansin ko na tumataas na yung %RH ng drybox when I closed it.

Question lang po regarding the Analog Hygrometer. Which part of SM Dept. Store is this located?
Tapos Silica Gel sa kahit anong Hardware po? I asked on some hardware store. they dont even know what a Silica Gel bag is. hmmm..

Analog Hygro - SM men's accessories section. Tip - dont ask the sales personnel kasi most of them don't know what a hygrometer is. Hanapin mo na lang - usually kasama yun ng mga table clock.

Silica gel - True value or Infomax

- ice
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on February 21, 2006, 03:46:58 PM
Quote
Question lang po regarding the Analog Hygrometer. Which part of SM Dept. Store is this located?
Tapos Silica Gel sa kahit anong Hardware po? I asked on some hardware store. they dont even know what a Silica Gel bag is. hmmm..

mens accessories .. dami po don ..about po sa Silica gel packs siguro all handy man shops.. :D..
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Doughn on February 21, 2006, 11:43:04 PM
mga bossing.

what is the correct level of the hygrometer ? ilang degrees?

maramikng salamas....

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: erworm on February 22, 2006, 07:47:59 AM
mga bossing.

what is the correct level of the hygrometer ? ilang degrees?

maramikng salamas....



from what I've read 40-60%... I keep mine at 48-50... humid sa bahay namin eh... :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Doughn on February 22, 2006, 10:47:04 AM
mga bossing.

what is the correct level of the hygrometer ? ilang degrees?

maramikng salamas....



from what I've read 40-60%... I keep mine at 48-50... humid sa bahay namin eh... :)

thanks for the info sir ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: boylit on February 24, 2006, 09:43:30 AM
how are silica gel packs recharged? i have a toaster oven and  a microwave. which one do i use? what settings? how long? thanks.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on February 24, 2006, 06:45:35 PM
bilad sa ilalim ng araw....
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: schnitzerz4 on February 25, 2006, 07:48:54 AM
nakainquire na ako equator 8 nasa 17K okay na ba ito mga sir?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: freeformula on February 26, 2006, 11:23:43 AM
nakainquire na ako equator 8 nasa 17K okay na ba ito mga sir?

The Eureka brand of drycabs sold by Aperture are just as good as AmPro and much cheaper. If I'm not mistaken, the size similar to the Equator 8 is 10K or less.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: orangeogreseven on March 06, 2006, 02:06:47 PM
Help!
I've been trying to buy silica gel packs but I can seem to find a store that has one. Ive been to Ace Hardware Greenbelt and SM, True Value Parksquare, InfoMax parksquare, Landmark Deptstore, Federal Hardware... Has someone here recently bought a pack, baka pwede nyo sa akin ituro exactly kung saan kayo bumili, kasi kapag nag tatanong ako sa mga sales people hindi nila alam yung silica gels.

Thanks for the help, ito na lang ang kulang ko para mabuo ko na yung DIY drybox ko.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: rave on March 06, 2006, 02:19:55 PM
Help!
I've been trying to buy silica gel packs but I can seem to find a store that has one. Ive been to Ace Hardware Greenbelt and SM, True Value Parksquare, InfoMax parksquare, Landmark Deptstore, Federal Hardware... Has someone here recently bought a pack, baka pwede nyo sa akin ituro exactly kung saan kayo bumili, kasi kapag nag tatanong ako sa mga sales people hindi nila alam yung silica gels.

Thanks for the help, ito na lang ang kulang ko para mabuo ko na yung DIY drybox ko.

I bought my silica gels sa TrueValue Park Square 1.. its a box of 25 1.5g mini packets.. nasa P65 yata yung box na yun.. kung hindi nila alam yung silica gel.. try asking for dessicants (its another term for silica gels).. nasa mga dehumidifier section ng True Value yun.. nasa middle section ng store i think malapit dun sa mga aircon filters and accessories... sa infomax megamall meron din.. dessicant din sabihin mo.. 10g packets naman binebenta nila.. forgot na nga lang kung magkano each..

Hope this helps...  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on March 06, 2006, 02:30:57 PM
Help!
I've been trying to buy silica gel packs but I can seem to find a store that has one. Ive been to Ace Hardware Greenbelt and SM, True Value Parksquare, InfoMax parksquare, Landmark Deptstore, Federal Hardware... Has someone here recently bought a pack, baka pwede nyo sa akin ituro exactly kung saan kayo bumili, kasi kapag nag tatanong ako sa mga sales people hindi nila alam yung silica gels.

Thanks for the help, ito na lang ang kulang ko para mabuo ko na yung DIY drybox ko.

try nyo po sa handy man ... sir name ng silaca gel packed is Rust Guard ...

goodluck po
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: orangeogreseven on March 06, 2006, 03:19:38 PM
Alright salamat!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: voodoo on March 06, 2006, 04:20:28 PM
bulaknoy, ubos na yung sa handyman natin
hehehe!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jason_b on March 06, 2006, 10:26:19 PM
Guys baka meron pa po gusto mag purchase ng cheap analog hygrometer meron po sa megamall mens section for only 179.75 pesos timer,temperature and hygrometer  don't ever dare to ask sa mga tao dun kung ano ang hygrometer kasi yung mismo naka assign doon eh hindi alam just look for it meron pa 18 pieces as of this day... ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: creationz on March 06, 2006, 10:42:25 PM
If youre reffering to the watch...or the digital alarm clock(with temperature and humidity)... i think theyre not that accurate...the small analog clocks  in the department store...theyre not accurate either. jst check all the stocks and they would have different readings. just my two cents  :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: rocksolid on March 07, 2006, 07:20:10 PM
hm.... sa hidalgo bat masmahal yung silica gel nila p50 per pack
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kieron on March 08, 2006, 07:38:05 AM
I saw once when I was in Robinson's malate yung 88 store...meron sila silica gels dun isa box ata eh. 88 pesos lang yun.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on March 08, 2006, 12:30:05 PM
bulaknoy, ubos na yung sa handyman natin
hehehe!

hahahha wwell anyway hanap ulit ng ibang shop.. baka sa ace meron
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kieron on March 10, 2006, 04:01:53 PM
Sino meron ng 103 liters na Drybox from Aperture Trading?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: daney_waney on March 10, 2006, 10:27:00 PM
For the Lock and Lock container, what's the largest size available? I need a larger one kasi. Currently, I am using 9 or 10 Litters I think. Is there a larger size and where can I buy it? Also, are the digital hygrometers like the one that can be bought from Infomaxx more accurate as compared to the analogue ones just like the one that can be bought from Fuma or SM?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: schnitzerz4 on March 11, 2006, 05:25:24 AM
got mine sa true value :)

Ampro Equator 10

5% off :)

(http://www.pbase.com/schnitzer/image/57070293.jpg)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kieron on March 11, 2006, 08:05:38 AM
Walang true value dito sa Bacolod eh... papasok ba yung Mark II N mo dyan? Gusto ko kasi papasok din yung dalawang Canon XL2 tapos mga EOS cameras and lenses. Sobra rami na yung mga Drybox ko na plastic eh hehe
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: schnitzerz4 on March 11, 2006, 08:28:24 AM
yup n ko and 20D plus lenses and accesories pasok lahat sir maluwag pa pero i dont think kakasya Canon xl2 pa :) malaki po ba yan? di pa kasi ako nakakakita nyan e hihihihihi
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kieron on March 11, 2006, 12:31:24 PM
Sir, thanks! gusto ko sana papasok yung lahat kong gears. Here's the photo of the XL2:

(http://www.internews.kg/upload/news/Canon-XL2-1111--2.jpg)

AC plug ba sya sir? may mas malaki pa nyan sa na bili mo? Favor naman sir, pwede pa measure ng size? Length and Width? I can't find anything sa web na may mga gears para ma dali ma imagine. Ma hirap kasi dito sa amin lugar walang ma kita na mga ganon stuff.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Oculus on March 11, 2006, 12:51:03 PM
got mine sa true value :)

Ampro Equator 10

5% off :)


Cool, yan ba yung 17K or smaller yun?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: schnitzerz4 on March 11, 2006, 09:37:01 PM
mas mahal doc :( got it 18.9K sa true value 5% off na yun kasi walang box hehehehe :)


to sir kieron: sir mukhang di yata kakasya lahat ng gears nyo :) kasi sa akin okay na e mga 3 lens na lang pwede idagdag e mas marami kayong gears sa
akin e :)

pero kasya yan sir kung hinde naman kayo OC hehehehehe ako kasi super OC kaya ang lalayo ng space nung mga gears ko baka magasgasan e hahahahahhaa
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Oculus on March 11, 2006, 10:20:21 PM
mas mahal doc :( got it 18.9K sa true value 5% off na yun kasi walang box hehehehe :)

Okay, thanks, isip isip pero baka dun muna ako sa tupperware ko at camera bag with silica gel. Isang taon na ring ganun yung 20D ko with lenses di naman nagkakaroon ng fungus. ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jo3pit on March 11, 2006, 10:24:39 PM
@oculus
kailangan mo talagang mag drycabinet sir. lalo na at hindi biro yung gears mo.  :D
pa repair pa lang ng lense mas mahal pa sa drycab.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Oculus on March 11, 2006, 11:36:26 PM
@oculus
kailangan mo talagang mag drycabinet sir. lalo na at hindi biro yung gears mo.  :D
pa repair pa lang ng lense mas mahal pa sa drycab.

Yep, thanks for the reminder, schnitzer is also prodding me to invest in a drycab so I'm really thinking about it.  Since I bring almost all my gear with me all the time(car,clinic,house) medyo hassle nga lang to pack and unpack and my methods have so far worked for me as they're all spotless.  The area where I live is also not that humid registering from 45-60% in the shade.  Fungi grow in damp, humid and enclosed spaces with stale air so I always make it a point to use and bring them all out from time to time.  I'll pay a visit to true value next time I'm in Manila  :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kieron on March 12, 2006, 12:22:18 AM
Dry cabinet kana sir oculus. para dretso na pasok sa cabinet yung bag mo. I'm thinking of getting one pero gusto ko sana pasok lahat ko na gears. hehe or hanap nalang kaya tayo ng parang aircon na dry sya? meron kaya nun? lol. para buong room na yung dryroom.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jo3pit on March 12, 2006, 12:37:06 AM
Dry cabinet kana sir oculus. para dretso na pasok sa cabinet yung bag mo. I'm thinking of getting one pero gusto ko sana pasok lahat ko na gears. hehe or hanap nalang kaya tayo ng parang aircon na dry sya? meron kaya nun? lol. para buong room na yung dryroom.
pede bossing.. meron pong taga clubsnap at meron syang 6 na studio dito sa singapore. dry room yung sa kanya at doon pa lang ako nakakita ng sandamukal na leica at iba ibang pang ziess na lente.. naka custom talaga yung place as dry room.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Oculus on March 12, 2006, 12:41:18 AM
Dry cabinet kana sir oculus. para dretso na pasok sa cabinet yung bag mo. I'm thinking of getting one pero gusto ko sana pasok lahat ko na gears. hehe or hanap nalang kaya tayo ng parang aircon na dry sya? meron kaya nun? lol. para buong room na yung dryroom.

Maganda nga kung merong malaking cabinet na kasya yung Magnum, Nova 5 at Toploader AW para hindi alwas nang alwas :) natawa ako dun sa dryroom ;D dami mo kasing gear e. :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kieron on March 12, 2006, 01:22:00 PM
For sure sobrang mahal yan. Dumami lang naman to kasi na dagdagan to ng Video equipments and cameras kaya dumami.. pag all photo euipments kunti lang to kansya na to sa ordinary drybox. hanap nalang ako ref siguro baka pwede :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on March 15, 2006, 07:13:05 PM
Dry cabinet kana sir oculus. para dretso na pasok sa cabinet yung bag mo. I'm thinking of getting one pero gusto ko sana pasok lahat ko na gears. hehe or hanap nalang kaya tayo ng parang aircon na dry sya? meron kaya nun? lol. para buong room na yung dryroom.

Maganda nga kung merong malaking cabinet na kasya yung Magnum, Nova 5 at Toploader AW para hindi alwas nang alwas :) natawa ako dun sa dryroom ;D dami mo kasing gear e. :)
sir doc lalo na po ngayon me 200 1.8 L kana .. nako mas malaking dry cabinet po yan :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: schnitzerz4 on March 15, 2006, 11:55:15 PM
nakow di kasya na yung gears ni doc :) mas malaki na dapat sa ampro equator 10 :)


dry room? :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Oculus on March 16, 2006, 12:11:10 AM
Natanong ko na yung Equator 10, next project ko siguro.  yung 200 1.8, lalagyan ko na lang ng silica gel packs yung lens case niya, daming room :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: schnitzerz4 on March 16, 2006, 12:15:25 AM
Natanong ko na yung Equator 10, next project ko siguro.  yung 200 1.8, lalagyan ko na lang ng silica gel packs yung lens case niya, daming room :)


doc may mas malaki pa sa equator 10 sa true value din :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Oculus on March 16, 2006, 12:17:23 AM
Alin yung double cabinet? hindi ko napansin.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: schnitzerz4 on March 16, 2006, 01:31:54 AM
yup doc mga 28 price range :) mas bagay sayo yun doc
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Oculus on March 16, 2006, 01:56:04 AM
Halos 10K ang difference sa equator 10. Isipin ko muna :-\   Aliw pala yung mga drycabinet na yun, 3.5W lang ang power consumption with automatic on and off :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kieron on March 16, 2006, 09:46:28 PM
saan to ma bili mga malakihan dry cabinet?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: schnitzerz4 on March 16, 2006, 09:48:44 PM
idol sa true value may mas malaki sa equator 10 :) 28 yata price :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kieron on March 17, 2006, 08:13:37 PM
wala kasi kaming true value dito sa bacolod eh. Next time nalang pag punta ng maynila.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on March 20, 2006, 11:46:13 AM
Effective pala talaga ang mga silica gel... after ko po binilad sa ilalim ng araw .. grabe nasa 25 ang reading ng Hygrometer ko ..until now ganon parin ang reading.. hehehehe :D.. cool
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: schnitzerz4 on March 21, 2006, 03:18:10 AM
idol kieron ano model gusto mo inquire ko? balik ako true value bili ulit ako isang ampro equator 10 ulit di kasya mga gamit ko :(

yung drybox ko di naka plug :) okay lang ba iyun? kasi lagi ko iniiwan nakalock yung room na yun :) iwas sunog hehehehehe

may 1 week na sa akin wala pang alikabok hehehehehe
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kieron on March 21, 2006, 07:29:07 AM
Sir. kahit ano hehe basta meron lang picture lol. papasok kaya xl2?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: schnitzerz4 on March 21, 2006, 08:12:02 AM
nakow oo nga pala 2 pala xl2 mo hehehehe dry room na yan idol :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Oculus on March 21, 2006, 01:08:51 PM
yung drybox ko di naka plug :) okay lang ba iyun? kasi lagi ko iniiwan nakalock yung room na yun :) iwas sunog hehehehehe

may 1 week na sa akin wala pang alikabok hehehehehe

What's the reading on the hygrometer when you leave it unplugged? if its above 55 then you're not making full use of it or you can use silica gel inside(sayang naman yung dehumidifier na bili mo,mahal pa naman :)). Plug mo na, may automatic off naman once it reaches the desired reading.  To be safe, maybe you can plug it to an outlet that has a separate fuse box or circuit breaker. ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: MGS on March 21, 2006, 01:19:28 PM
question:
pwede na ba ang ordinary clear containers tulad ng mga nabibili sa SM then lalagyan na lang ng silica gel, or dapat bang sealed talaga?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kieron on March 21, 2006, 03:58:51 PM
hindi ata sealed mga ordinary plastic case.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bote on March 21, 2006, 07:51:12 PM
@syuter - Yup.. important talaga hygrometer.. bumababa kasi yung absorption capacity ng silica gel the longer you use it and pag madalas mo buksan yung drybox. Pag na reach na ng silica gel yung limit sa pag absorb ng moisture, instead of pababain yung %RH, most likely patataasin pa yun.. That's why kailangan mo talaga mamonitor yung %RH.. Too high (approx 60% and above) = fungal growth | Too low (approx 40% and below) = possible drying of lubricant for both the lens and mechanical parts inside the camera body. 

@Estong - nabili ko po yung Hygrometer sa Infomax Parksquare @ P750.. Pati sa Infomax megamall meron din. May nakikita din ako na mga table top clocks w/ analog Hygrometer sa SM department stores.. dun sa accessories section.. Mas cheaper yun than the digital Hygro... siguro mga nasa P200+

@raymie_v - oki din ang tupperware. basta ang important is air-tight yung container :) hindi kasi magiging effective yung silica gel pag hindi air-tight   

What happens if the reading is 24%? What should i do then? My reading is 24 % only. Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: rave on March 21, 2006, 11:20:27 PM
Got this from the old forum:

Quoted from sir shuttercat's post:

Excerpt:

"TO AVOID FUNGUS DAMAGE:
Do not store your lenses in any environment with humidity over 65%, or temperatures over 86º F (30º C). In humid environments, a garage or the cargo box of a truck is a dangerous place to store lenses overnight.

If you must use your lenses in an envirorment that exceed the limits stated above for temperature and humidity, you must allow the lenses to dry out. This can be accomplished by leaving the lenses out in an air conditioned room overnight. Do not leave the lenses in their case.

If you believe you are working in a situation that has a high risk of fungus damage to your lenses, you should expose the lenses to direct sunlight. Place the lenses on a flat surface with front lens cap off and the front element exposed, and iris wide open. Later you can reverse the lenses so they sit on their front elements and expose them to sunlight through the rear element. Do not do this inside a car or another enclosed space where the temperature may exceed 120º F. This can damage the lubricants and adhesives used in the lens construction and require a complete overhaul.

In a worst case scenario, exposure to a strong emission of X-rays can kill fungus. This can be accomplished by exposing the lenses to the output of an X-ray device, set to a high exposure. This can only be done by trained professionals and you must not be anywhere near the lenses during exposure and all personnel present must be protected behind radiation shielding. Once the exposure is performed the lenses will not retain any residual radioactivity from the X-rays, but the exposure should kill any live fungus or spores."


Quoted from misterkodaker:

"Someone though told me to be a bit cautious when using too much silica gel or a electric dry box. You might end up drying even the lubricants inside your lens and camera"



@bote - sir, siguro bawasan nyo na lang yung silica gel na nakalagay sa drybox nyo.. hanggan sa maging 40-50% yung reading nung hygrometer...  ;)

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: schnitzerz4 on March 21, 2006, 11:36:27 PM
got myself a new ampro 10 ulit :)  idol kieron wala talaga ako makita kakasya sa xl2 mo :) tapos 2 pa :)

pwede kaya pasadya? nasa akin contact number nila just in case kailangan mo :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bote on March 22, 2006, 12:11:42 AM
Got this from the old forum:

Quoted from sir shuttercat's post:

Excerpt:

"TO AVOID FUNGUS DAMAGE:
Do not store your lenses in any environment with humidity over 65%, or temperatures over 86º F (30º C). In humid environments, a garage or the cargo box of a truck is a dangerous place to store lenses overnight.

If you must use your lenses in an envirorment that exceed the limits stated above for temperature and humidity, you must allow the lenses to dry out. This can be accomplished by leaving the lenses out in an air conditioned room overnight. Do not leave the lenses in their case.

If you believe you are working in a situation that has a high risk of fungus damage to your lenses, you should expose the lenses to direct sunlight. Place the lenses on a flat surface with front lens cap off and the front element exposed, and iris wide open. Later you can reverse the lenses so they sit on their front elements and expose them to sunlight through the rear element. Do not do this inside a car or another enclosed space where the temperature may exceed 120º F. This can damage the lubricants and adhesives used in the lens construction and require a complete overhaul.

In a worst case scenario, exposure to a strong emission of X-rays can kill fungus. This can be accomplished by exposing the lenses to the output of an X-ray device, set to a high exposure. This can only be done by trained professionals and you must not be anywhere near the lenses during exposure and all personnel present must be protected behind radiation shielding. Once the exposure is performed the lenses will not retain any residual radioactivity from the X-rays, but the exposure should kill any live fungus or spores."


Quoted from misterkodaker:

"Someone though told me to be a bit cautious when using too much silica gel or a electric dry box. You might end up drying even the lubricants inside your lens and camera"



@bote - sir, siguro bawasan nyo na lang yung silica gel na nakalagay sa drybox nyo.. hanggan sa maging 40-50% yung reading nung hygrometer...  ;)


Thanks Rave. I just checked it and it's zero RH! Galing ng silica from Aperture. 3 packets at 110 pesos. Took out one packet from the box and left only one. Trying to observe if it will go up a little bit. Thanks again.
I took out the meter from the box and our room RH was at 24% with the ac on. It's now 25% inside the box.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kieron on March 22, 2006, 05:22:03 PM
got myself a new ampro 10 ulit :)  idol kieron wala talaga ako makita kakasya sa xl2 mo :) tapos 2 pa :)

pwede kaya pasadya? nasa akin contact number nila just in case kailangan mo :)

sir meron ka photo nito na may laman gear? mag kano score mo ng ampro 10?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bote on March 22, 2006, 05:44:10 PM
It's back to zero RH again even after taking out one packet of silica and leaving just one inside. What should I do guys? Just let it without any silica gel? thanks.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Oculus on March 22, 2006, 08:47:38 PM
It's back to zero RH again even after taking out one packet of silica and leaving just one inside. What should I do guys? Just let it without any silica gel? thanks.

Just a thought, but you may also want to check if your hygrometer is giving you accurate readings.  Take readings in places which you feel have a high humidity like Bathrooms(specially right after a hot shower) and see if you can get readings of greater than 80%, if not your hygro may be busted. :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: schnitzerz4 on March 22, 2006, 11:04:26 PM
19K+ sige kuhanan ko sir :)

kakalog kalog na sila ngayon eh hihihihihi


got myself a new ampro 10 ulit :)  idol kieron wala talaga ako makita kakasya sa xl2 mo :) tapos 2 pa :)

pwede kaya pasadya? nasa akin contact number nila just in case kailangan mo :)

sir meron ka photo nito na may laman gear? mag kano score mo ng ampro 10?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Oculus on March 22, 2006, 11:08:03 PM
19K+ sige kuhanan ko sir :)

Hintayin ko rin pic :) baka kumuha na ako niyan next week..or week after next...haay kailan kaya makaluwas ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bote on March 22, 2006, 11:11:39 PM
I know it works coz back at info max the reading was 44 % and here inside our bedroom if I bring it out it reads 24%. And when I put it inside the box, that's when it begins to go to zero. Thanks Oculus.

Quote from: Oculus
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It's back to zero RH again even after taking out one packet of silica and leaving just one inside. What should I do guys? Just let it without any silica gel? thanks.

Just a thought, but you may also want to check if your hygrometer is giving you accurate readings.  Take readings in places which you feel have a high humidity like Bathrooms(specially right after a hot shower) and see if you can get readings of greater than 80%, if not your hygro may be busted. :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Oculus on March 22, 2006, 11:19:23 PM
I know it works coz back at info max the reading was 44 % and here inside our bedroom if I bring it out it reads 24%. And when I put it inside the box, that's when it begins to go to zero. Thanks Oculus.

Okay, that means you're better off taking the gel out, 0% is obviously way too dry :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bote on March 23, 2006, 12:08:22 AM
I know it works coz back at info max the reading was 44 % and here inside our bedroom if I bring it out it reads 24%. And when I put it inside the box, that's when it begins to go to zero. Thanks Oculus.

Okay, that means you're better off taking the gel out, 0% is obviously way too dry :)

Thanks Oculus. I'll do that.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bote on March 23, 2006, 12:31:09 AM
I took out the meter and it read 38%  Took out the gel and took a reading in the box and it's now 24%.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Oculus on March 23, 2006, 12:40:11 AM
You're lucky, you have a virtual dry room :).  The ambient readings at my bedroom here in the province range from from 42 at daytime to 56 at night shooting up to 60-70 when its raining outside. You will probably have to return the silica gel inside your box during the rainy season when its more humid. 
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: schnitzerz4 on March 23, 2006, 02:52:00 AM
got myself a new ampro 10 ulit :)  idol kieron wala talaga ako makita kakasya sa xl2 mo :) tapos 2 pa :)

pwede kaya pasadya? nasa akin contact number nila just in case kailangan mo :)


sir meron ka photo nito na may laman gear? mag kano score mo ng ampro 10?


eto po pics sir na may laman kaso di nga lang kuhang kuha heheheheh

(http://www.pbase.com/schnitzer/image/57609628.jpg)

(http://www.pbase.com/schnitzer/image/57609627.jpg)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kieron on March 23, 2006, 07:19:11 AM
Ganda sir! kukuha ako nyan. tamang tama lang pala without the XL2. Problema ko ngayon paano bibili... lol. True value yan sir? saan na branch na true value?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: schnitzerz4 on March 23, 2006, 07:47:06 AM
idol kahit saang branch meron sila :) pero nabili ko yung sa akin sa park square true value :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kieron on March 23, 2006, 07:56:03 AM
thanks po sir! :) kamusta pala yung 100-400 mo? rate from 1-10? hehe I'm thinking of buying.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: schnitzerz4 on March 23, 2006, 08:21:35 AM
10 the best? 8 hehehehe :)

kaso newbie ako sir ha
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kieron on March 23, 2006, 10:33:57 AM
nako ha! Newbie pero panay "L" naka lista hehehe

I'm considering the EF 300 2.8 IS kasi or EF 100-400. Double the price pero gusto ko yung 2.8 na opening.

Btw. nice photo pala and thank you sa pag kuha ng photo. I salute you sir! :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bote on March 23, 2006, 10:33:10 PM
You're lucky, you have a virtual dry room :).  The ambient readings at my bedroom here in the province range from from 42 at daytime to 56 at night shooting up to 60-70 when its raining outside. You will probably have to return the silica gel inside your box during the rainy season when its more humid. 

Hi again. I don't know what else to do. This afternoon I looked at the lock and lock diy drybox and the hygro read zero RH again! I opened the box for five minutes and went around the house with the meter. It's fine coz it changes it's readings as I go around. I don't have any silica inside the box anymore. Now it reads 24 % RH. But I am afraid tomorrow, it will read zero again. Is there something wrong somewhere? Thanks.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Oculus on March 23, 2006, 11:14:00 PM
I really suspect that your hygro's busted and is taking abnormally low readings.  As I said in a previous post, try to take readings at areas where there is high humidity.  Bring it with you in the bathroom close the door and window and put the hygro in a place where it won't get directly splattered with water, take a hot shower or bath, observe the readings.  If it doesn't go up to 70% and above there really is something wrong with your hygro. :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bote on March 24, 2006, 12:28:46 AM
I took it out of the room and it read 30+ and 24 inside which I believe is ok since I have the ac running and it dries up the air.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: geraldo on March 24, 2006, 08:24:11 AM
i think the your hygrometer is not properly calibrated anymore.  to give a comparison, my hygro registers 45 to 65 rh.  it reached 70 only once but it was really hot & humid at that time. w/ the aircon on,  it registers 45 to 51 RH. hope this helps. :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: schnitzerz4 on March 24, 2006, 09:10:17 AM
guys ano naman pang control nyo ng alikabok? thanks hehehehe
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kieron on March 24, 2006, 09:43:33 AM
o nga... kasi walang moisture pero daming alikabok.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ESM on March 24, 2006, 10:11:49 AM
i think the your hygrometer is not properly calibrated anymore.  to give a comparison, my hygro registers 45 to 65 rh.  it reached 70 only once but it was really hot & humid at that time. w/ the aircon on,  it registers 45 to 51 RH. hope this helps. :)

at our office RH/Temp is monitored closely, so all meters are sent for calibration every 6months or 1year.... this helps ensure that everything is working :)   
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: p3rsmag on March 24, 2006, 10:20:42 AM
have the same problem with "alikabok" hehehe
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: erworm on March 24, 2006, 10:28:03 AM
guys ano naman pang control nyo ng alikabok? thanks hehehehe

feather duster... hehehehehe... ako rin hirap sa alikabok eh... brush off lang gawa ko :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: p3rsmag on March 24, 2006, 11:02:15 AM
So i guess its not really adviseable to change lenses while at the beach?

Last year in bora i saw this photographer.. he kept on changing lenses.. di ba delikado yun? sa may beach sya while doing it..
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kieron on March 24, 2006, 01:23:04 PM
Delikado yung sensor sa beach. I suggest a 28-300 or 100-400. Lol. Canon white para isa lang hehe
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Oculus on March 24, 2006, 05:03:01 PM
guys ano naman pang control nyo ng alikabok? thanks hehehehe

A clean room along with regular inspection and dusting, dust is a fact of life, a large part of it is what remains of the people who came before us ;D .

You could also get one of those devices for asthmatics that ionize the air so dust settles immediately or is filtered by the element so it doesn't float aimlessly in the air. 
Gamitin mo rin ng gamitin, para hindi na magkaroon ng pagkakataong maglanding ang alikabok ;D

btw, nice pic of the ampro equator 10, kasya na rin siguro most of my gear sa isa, kakalog kalog nga yung isa mo, you now have an excuse to fill it up with more equipment :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Sabonis on March 24, 2006, 11:16:10 PM
Bionaire (don't know if I spelled it right) filters the air of dust. I have a friend who has an asthmatic son and they use this. These come in different sizes to be used for different room sizes.

Frankly speaking, in the real world we would be changing our lenses outdoors or indoors but not in our own homes. But of course there are those who have their own studios (oo nga naman).

Hehe! ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: yomar on April 01, 2006, 12:23:31 PM
dust = dead skin. ewwww :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: yomar on April 03, 2006, 11:25:19 PM
hassle, walang hygrometer sa SM sucat. saang sm ba kayo nakakita niyan? I tried asking the salesperson and he gave me a BLANK STARE! After 5 seconds... sabi niya... "sir wala po kami nun" ???
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: keempee on April 04, 2006, 10:19:35 PM
sa sm southmall, meron. dont bother asking, di nila usually alam nga ang hygro. just go to the men's accessories section, don sa mga alarm clocks.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: yomar on April 05, 2006, 04:25:55 AM
aha! salamat keempee! pupunta ako bukas!

To those who intend to look sa sm sucat and sm makati, don't bother. Galing lang ako dun kanina.. Wala :)

Also, there's an alternative to the lock and lock. I bought my 8.3 liter box from true value powerplant at Php430.

To those who have not found silica gels yet, i've found a LOT in stock sa true value powerplant din. Kulay pink na box which contains 25 packs. HOMELIFE ang tatak ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bote on April 05, 2006, 05:39:05 AM
Hi guys. Dami lock and lock sa SM City North Edsa.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: keempee on April 05, 2006, 11:34:38 AM
9L lang ba pinakamalaki ng lock and lock?

dami din silica gel sa true value in alabang town center.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: MAA on April 05, 2006, 12:34:46 PM
got a 9li Lock & Lock for 479.00 at SM Megamall, fits a 350d w bge3 + kenko ext tubes + sigma 70-300 + sigma 28-200 + canon 50 1.8 + kit lens (comfortably) and lots of room for silica gel ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: tx on April 05, 2006, 01:33:08 PM
got silica gels - HOMELIFE brand from True Value -Park Square 1 for 62.75 (box of 25 packets) ;D 
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: tx on April 05, 2006, 01:33:59 PM
9L lang ba pinakamalaki ng lock and lock?

dami din silica gel sa true value in alabang town center.

meron 10L pero hirap hanapin.. ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: shutter on April 05, 2006, 01:43:59 PM
mahirap nga hanapin ung 10L na Lock & Lock, sa southmall din wala kaya nabili ko Biokips 11L mas mahal nga lang sa Lock & Lock , around 750+ hindi ko na matandaan  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: foto-han on April 05, 2006, 01:48:19 PM
hi mga sirs. kelangan ba talaga air tight? air tight ba yung lock and lock? any brand na marerecommend nyo for a 10L lock and lock?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: tx on April 05, 2006, 02:13:41 PM
hi mga sirs. kelangan ba talaga air tight? air tight ba yung lock and lock? any brand na marerecommend nyo for a 10L lock and lock?
I saw the Biokips and quality-wise, almost the same with Lock and Lock, although slightly expensive..ask shutter..but they have an 11L without a handle on the lid top which is a little more cheaper (sorry, forgot the price)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: foto-han on April 05, 2006, 02:19:37 PM
hi mga sirs. kelangan ba talaga air tight? air tight ba yung lock and lock? any brand na marerecommend nyo for a 10L lock and lock?
I saw the Biokips and quality-wise, almost the same with Lock and Lock, although slightly expensive..ask shutter..but they have an 11L without a handle on the lid top which is a little more cheaper (sorry, forgot the price)

Thanks Tx... san kaya makakabili nito? any from the south?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: MAA on April 05, 2006, 03:12:58 PM
may 10li L&L sa megamall 900++ yung may top handle, at date marker sa ibabaw, kaso di sya kasing lalim ng 9li. pero toyak na mas malapad

hth
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: tx on April 05, 2006, 04:51:09 PM
hi mga sirs. kelangan ba talaga air tight? air tight ba yung lock and lock? any brand na marerecommend nyo for a 10L lock and lock?
I saw the Biokips and quality-wise, almost the same with Lock and Lock, although slightly expensive..ask shutter..but they have an 11L without a handle on the lid top which is a little more cheaper (sorry, forgot the price)

Thanks Tx... san kaya makakabili nito? any from the south?
sm southmall --> basement, try also lock & lock 9L, wala lang top handle...price around 480. :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: shutter on April 05, 2006, 09:49:23 PM
hi mga sirs. kelangan ba talaga air tight? air tight ba yung lock and lock? any brand na marerecommend nyo for a 10L lock and lock?
I saw the Biokips and quality-wise, almost the same with Lock and Lock, although slightly expensive..ask shutter..but they have an 11L without a handle on the lid top which is a little more cheaper (sorry, forgot the price)

Thanks Tx... san kaya makakabili nito? any from the south?

sa sm southmall sir meron dun ako nakabili  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: funky_monkey on April 05, 2006, 10:26:31 PM
I just did the first steps to DIY. 
Went to megamall and saw the 9L Lock and Lock. P479.00
Other Airtight containers I saw:
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: funky_monkey on April 05, 2006, 10:30:35 PM
11.2L Klipfresh Container P339.00

(http://images.fotopic.net/ygheip.jpg)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: funky_monkey on April 05, 2006, 10:32:38 PM
13L Keyway Container P250
(http://images.fotopic.net/ygheio.jpg)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: funky_monkey on April 05, 2006, 10:33:53 PM
Generic Hygrometer P179
(http://images.fotopic.net/yghein.jpg)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: yomar on April 05, 2006, 11:08:08 PM
aba mura yung mga containers na nakita mo funky ah!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: tx on April 05, 2006, 11:10:48 PM
funky,

buti pinayagan ka picturan yung items ;D

btw, air tight ba yun keyway?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: funky_monkey on April 06, 2006, 12:08:07 AM
I ended up buying the keyway 13L container and the hygrometer.  Silica nalang kulang. :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: yomar on April 06, 2006, 12:23:40 AM
we have the same hygro. nahirapan lang ako idikit yun sa side ng container. i've tried glue gun and mighty bond, ayaw pa din. nagsi-slip siya. i ended up putting the whole thing (including the clock) sa loob. Sayang sa space tuloy.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: funky_monkey on April 06, 2006, 12:29:11 AM
funky,

buti pinayagan ka picturan yung items ;D

btw, air tight ba yun keyway?



hehe, di ako nagpaalam.  very small camera dala ko and mga 5 seconds lang nakunan ko na yung 2 containers.

yes airtight yung keyway.  di ko bibilhin kung di airtight eh.  ito andoon sa label:
(http://images.fotopic.net/yghgod.jpg)

I just bought the keyway because of the size(13L).  I dont know if even the 13L size is enough.  Quality of the Lock and Lock container is far superior. 
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Don.C on April 06, 2006, 12:31:06 AM
@funky san mo nakita yung air tight cases na yan mura ahh
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: funky_monkey on April 06, 2006, 12:36:39 AM
@funky san mo nakita yung air tight cases na yan mura ahh

SM Megamall basement. 
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Don.C on April 06, 2006, 12:40:23 AM
uy thanks for the info sir ill buy one pag may time thanks again  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: MAA on April 06, 2006, 06:53:01 AM
funky,
san mo nabili hygro mo?

thanks

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: tx on April 06, 2006, 07:01:00 AM
funky,
san mo nabili hygro mo?

thanks


Try SM Men's section...sa mga clocks... :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: MAA on April 06, 2006, 07:19:51 AM
tnks

eto pala yung looban ng 9L L&L

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/MAKOY/Image389.jpg)

kasya pa sana yung hygrometer ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: funky_monkey on April 06, 2006, 07:41:00 AM
funky,
san mo nabili hygro mo?

thanks



SM Megamall also, 1st floor.  Dont look for a hygrometer.  Look for a desk clock with a thermometer :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: yomar on April 06, 2006, 10:29:50 AM
may problema ako sa DIY ko... ayaw bumaba ng hygro ko. It stays at 62. Pinasok ko na lahat ng silica gel pero ganun pa din :( Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Estong on April 06, 2006, 10:42:59 AM
buy a new hygrometer?

 ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: funky_monkey on April 06, 2006, 11:35:40 AM
may problema ako sa DIY ko... ayaw bumaba ng hygro ko. It stays at 62. Pinasok ko na lahat ng silica gel pero ganun pa din :( Any suggestions?

try putting the hygrometer in your bathroom while you take a hot shower(not in the shower with you :D)
the reading should go up. if it does not, replace the hygrometer.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on April 06, 2006, 11:42:15 AM
may problema ako sa DIY ko... ayaw bumaba ng hygro ko. It stays at 62. Pinasok ko na lahat ng silica gel pero ganun pa din :( Any suggestions?

recharge your silica gel first .. kasi for sure naabsorb na nya lahat ng moist sa pinagbilhan mo ...

hmmm one and the most easiest way to charge ur silca's, ibilad sa ilalim ng araw nakapatong sa yero  12-2pm para recharge na recharge.. hehehe

kasi ganon din nangyari sa hygro reading ko di bumababa sa 65..  after ko mabilad nasa 29-32 nalang ang reading... recharge mo muna para walang GAStos :D..
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: yomar on April 06, 2006, 11:45:14 AM
estong: wala na ako pera kahit pambili ng fishball hehe

funky: actually i did the opposite. I put the hygro in the fridge.. ayun bumaba naman pati yung temp readings so most probably ok naman siya

bulaknoy: thanks bro will do that. ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: rave on April 06, 2006, 05:25:01 PM
estong: wala na ako pera kahit pambili ng fishball hehe

funky: actually i did the opposite. I put the hygro in the fridge.. ayun bumaba naman pati yung temp readings so most probably ok naman siya

bulaknoy: thanks bro will do that. ;)

Umm.. hindi ba mas humid sa loob ng fridge.. baka lalo mag absorb ng moisture yung silica gels mo.. ilang packs ba nakalagay sa drybox mo? I dry my silica gels under direct sunlight sa roof... :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: funky_monkey on April 06, 2006, 05:56:16 PM
i found rechargeable silica(de saksak sa outlet) in True Value Park Square 1. P815 only.  Ill post pictures later.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on April 06, 2006, 05:59:00 PM
i found rechargeable silica(de saksak sa outlet) in True Value Park Square 1. P815 only.  Ill post pictures later.

wow .. 815 :D... pang filter narin yan .. ... bilid nalang po sa araw.. summer naman ngayon :D..  pero .. ganda rin to .. kung tagulan .. sige sir.. hintay namin ang pix
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: funky_monkey on April 06, 2006, 06:19:39 PM
parang ganito pero P815 lang. 

(http://www.korjalinternational.com/alt/moistureabsorber.jpg)

i saw this being sold at photoworld for around 2k, came with the plastic container with hygrometer already.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: funky_monkey on April 06, 2006, 08:52:35 PM
Its the Green and White thing

(http://images.fotopic.net/yghzmq.jpg)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: quixilver on April 06, 2006, 09:00:51 PM
Its the Green and White thing

([url]http://images.fotopic.net/yghzmq.jpg[/url])


i like the white lenses better. hehehe!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bote on April 06, 2006, 10:59:34 PM
may problema ako sa DIY ko... ayaw bumaba ng hygro ko. It stays at 62. Pinasok ko na lahat ng silica gel pero ganun pa din :( Any suggestions?

recharge your silica gel first .. kasi for sure naabsorb na nya lahat ng moist sa pinagbilhan mo ...

hmmm one and the most easiest way to charge ur silca's, ibilad sa ilalim ng araw nakapatong sa yero  12-2pm para recharge na recharge.. hehehe

kasi ganon din nangyari sa hygro reading ko di bumababa sa 65..  after ko mabilad nasa 29-32 nalang ang reading... recharge mo muna para walang GAStos :D..

He he ako naman ayaw tumaas. I don't put gel na nga e. Dry tala
ga
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: yomar on April 07, 2006, 02:00:11 AM
ayos na.. napababa ko na sa 50 yung reading. Ginawa ko lang yung suggestion ni bulaknoy :)

Uy ok yang green and white thing ah. Medyo may kamahalan nga lang :) Animo lasalle hehee
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: erworm on April 07, 2006, 08:08:37 AM
ako naman I put a pack of silica that I got from Aperture... nilagay ko siya yesterday morning (5:30am), reading was 38... and when I got home, zero na! Lakas masyado :) so I removed it, let the dry box sit a little while opened, then sealed again... ngayon steady na siya sa 39 :)

masyadong maliit ata box ko para sa silica packs ng aperture... I plan to buy stockings, open the pack then maybe put 1/3 or 1/2 of the contents... yun yung suggestion ng taga aperture kung i-recharge... lipat lang sa stockings :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: MAA on April 07, 2006, 10:29:06 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/MAKOY/IMG_7664.jpg)

mukhang ang taas ng humidity ng kahon ko...magcuculture na lang ako ng fungi  :D

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ABC on April 07, 2006, 11:04:59 AM
guyz,

i've reading this post, i heard of mold and fungus growing on cameras before, akala ko it only applies if a camera has been stored for years or longer. ngayon ko lang nalaman na ganun pala ka serious. is it more susceptible on DSLR's or lahat including prosumers? how would you know, or check if your camera already has mold? and if so, how do you deal with it?

bibili na ako ng DIY dry box and accesories. hehehe  praning hehe
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Oculus on April 08, 2006, 02:59:42 PM
My Am-Pro Equator 12 Drycab.  :)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v464/doctabako/_MG_6870.jpg)

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on April 08, 2006, 06:25:37 PM
My Am-Pro Equator 12 Drycab.  :)


wow... :D... congrats sir
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: schnitzerz4 on April 08, 2006, 08:26:22 PM
wow ang ganda doc :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bote on April 08, 2006, 09:50:43 PM
ako naman I put a pack of silica that I got from Aperture... nilagay ko siya yesterday morning (5:30am), reading was 38... and when I got home, zero na! Lakas masyado :) so I removed it, let the dry box sit a little while opened, then sealed again... ngayon steady na siya sa 39 :)

masyadong maliit ata box ko para sa silica packs ng aperture... I plan to buy stockings, open the pack then maybe put 1/3 or 1/2 of the contents... yun yung suggestion ng taga aperture kung i-recharge... lipat lang sa stockings :)

Hi. Pareho tayo ng condition before. Now I don't put silica anymore and the reading remains at 30+. Aperture din galing gel ko.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Mr Ez on April 09, 2006, 01:31:28 AM
 :)

Where's the best place to get these dry cabs and can you give an aprox on the pricing?

thanks.

 ;D

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Mon Corpuz on April 09, 2006, 01:41:03 AM
i found rechargeable silica(de saksak sa outlet) in True Value Park Square 1. P815 only.  Ill post pictures later.

I saw a 6 liters dry box with hygrometer also. is this the one you have? the assistant told me about the silica get but I ignore it at first when he said it needs to be plugged. the dry box costs 2,700.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Oculus on April 09, 2006, 02:28:50 AM
:)

Where's the best place to get these dry cabs and can you give an aprox on the pricing?

thanks.

 ;D




Don't know if its the best place but schnitzerZ4 and I bought our drycabs at True Value parksquare. The Equator 8 is around 13,000, The Equator 10 is around 19,000 , I bought the Equator 12 for 26,800(sticker price is 28,200), the Equator 16 is around 30,000.  For other brands ,like Eureka, you can backread to the beginning of this thread.  For the Am-Pro you can also check out the OT drycab posts in this thread http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=32.60  for ordering direct from the supplier :) If you buy from true value, ask for a discount, the price will then be the same as when ordering direct from the supplier..

wow ang ganda doc :)


Thanks, masyadong malaki (actually mataas lang by 17cms) yung Equator 16(although konti lang diperensya sa price), at parang di kasya sa sasakyan ko, I also think it is stretching the limits of the built-in dehumidifying unit kaya I just bought the Equator 12. Tama lang naman sa gear ko, may space pa for future acquisitions. ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: schnitzerz4 on April 09, 2006, 05:37:15 AM
doc ibig sabihin nyan pwede pang dagdagan ng L lens hihihihihi :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: freeformula on April 09, 2006, 06:22:23 AM
:)

Where's the best place to get these dry cabs and can you give an aprox on the pricing?

thanks.

 ;D



Aperture has the Eureka brand. Cheaper than AmPro but just as good.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Oculus on April 09, 2006, 02:56:24 PM
doc ibig sabihin nyan pwede pang dagdagan ng L lens hihihihihi :)

;D tipid mode ako ngayon, I'm in the process of buying my own place in Makati( currently, I only stay in my Mom's condo when I'm there). :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Mr Ez on April 09, 2006, 11:11:49 PM
 :)

@ Oculus
@ Freeformula

Thanks guys, seriously considering an Equator 10 or equivalent. Great help!

 :)

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: erworm on April 09, 2006, 11:46:37 PM
ako naman I put a pack of silica that I got from Aperture... nilagay ko siya yesterday morning (5:30am), reading was 38... and when I got home, zero na! Lakas masyado :) so I removed it, let the dry box sit a little while opened, then sealed again... ngayon steady na siya sa 39 :)

masyadong maliit ata box ko para sa silica packs ng aperture... I plan to buy stockings, open the pack then maybe put 1/3 or 1/2 of the contents... yun yung suggestion ng taga aperture kung i-recharge... lipat lang sa stockings :)

Hi. Pareho tayo ng condition before. Now I don't put silica anymore and the reading remains at 30+. Aperture din galing gel ko.

hehehe... nice to see that someone experiences the same... :)

what I do now is when I see the RH level go up (lalo na after opening the box to put or retrieve gear) is put the pack in for a short while, when it reachers 29-30, I remove it again and store it in a different air tight box... then a few minutes, it selttles to around 30+... :)

have to save up for those elctric type in the future :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: funky_monkey on April 10, 2006, 11:52:24 AM
total cost for DIY drybox - P1244

Hygrometer with Clock - 179
Keyway 13Liter Plastic Container P250
Green and White Rechargeable Silica P815

You can go cheaper by not buying the P815 Rechargeable Silica.  Just buy the 100 peso Silica packs that you can microwave.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: suyen on April 11, 2006, 09:32:37 PM
I have been reading and have gotten a bit interested in the DIY drybox.  I have a few question which i hope someone does not mind answering.

1) would the silica gels in shoes and other stuff we purchase work in the DIY box? 
2) would the silica gels discussed in #1 also be rechargable?  (microwave or sunlight?)
3) how long should it take for the gels to work for the hydrometer to reflect the reading?
4) it seems that everyone wants to achieve the 39 reading in the hydrometer.  What is the basis of this?

thanks!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: funky_monkey on April 12, 2006, 09:35:54 PM

1) would the silica gels in shoes and other stuff we purchase work in the DIY box? 
yes.

2) would the silica gels discussed in #1 also be rechargable?  (microwave or sunlight?)
sunlight probably but not microwave, there's a danger that they aren't made to be heated in micro.

3) how long should it take for the gels to work for the hydrometer to reflect the reading?
i noticed the hygrometer stabilizes after a couple of hours

4) it seems that everyone wants to achieve the 39 reading in the hydrometer.  What is the basis of this?
i dont know the magic number.  i try to keep mine below 50, didnt know it was wrong :D.  anyone have the basis for 39 reading? please enlighten us.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jerrychu on April 16, 2006, 11:02:29 PM
Just saw a dry box with  hygrometer being sold at Island Photo in SM Manila. Small size cost around 1.3K and a bigger size cost  3+k.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: suyen on April 18, 2006, 12:59:25 PM
Just wanted to share,

i made my own dry box based on what funky monkey showed.

got the same hydrometer from SM and a plastic air tight storage (not lock and lock as it is too expensive and the size is quite small) from SM again.

Instead of the rechargable silica gels, i got something similar to the hippo dehumidifier which can be refilled.

I am glad to share that it works.  in fact the dehumidifier is so good that i brought down the humidity level inside the container to below 20.

thanks funky monkey for the inputs
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: tx on April 18, 2006, 01:45:00 PM
Just wanted to share,

i made my own dry box based on what funky monkey showed.

got the same hydrometer from SM and a plastic air tight storage (not lock and lock as it is too expensive and the size is quite small) from SM again.

Instead of the rechargable silica gels, i got something similar to the hippo dehumidifier which can be refilled.

I am glad to share that it works.  in fact the dehumidifier is so good that i brought down the humidity level inside the container to below 20.

thanks funky monkey for the inputs

Dehumidifiers may damage your gears!   Read the thread archives, this was discussed before. :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Oculus on April 18, 2006, 02:02:12 PM
4) it seems that everyone wants to achieve the 39 reading in the hydrometer.  What is the basis of this?
i dont know the magic number.  i try to keep mine below 50, didnt know it was wrong :D.  anyone have the basis for 39 reading? please enlighten us.



keeping it below 50% RH isn't wrong, the actual safe range is actually from 20-60%RH.  40%RH is the median so that's the figure that is often used to provide a balance between keeping your equipment fungus free while not overly drying the rubber parts(which could lead to deterioration and cracking) and drying the lubricant of the lens(occurs when reading is constantly below 25%RH).  
Here's a link to an article, hope this helps

http://www.totechamerica.com/html/index_optics.php
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: suyen on April 18, 2006, 03:19:08 PM
oh   :o   

will remove it immediately
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: quixilver on April 18, 2006, 03:28:50 PM
ok ba yung hygrometers na nabibili sa SM?

i already bought a 6.5L Lock n Lock container w/ handle (450 pesos) & a box of home life silica gels (62 pesos - 1.5g x 25 sachets) sa robinson's handyman.

sakto yung 350D, sigma 18-200 (attached), bg-e3, extra batt & archos av420. pwede pa isang lens. buti di yung 5L yung nabili ko kung hindi YARI. heheheh!

so 30%-50% RH ang safe range.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Oculus on April 18, 2006, 09:04:51 PM
haven't seen the hygros at SM....  But the analog type hygrometers that can be bought at cigar stores aren't accurate even after you calibrate it(by turning the screw at the back). The little digital one's branded "little havana" are very accurate in my experience.  I place it at the bottom of my drycabinet and it always reads the same as the built in hygrometer(located near the top).  I have 3 of those aforementioned analog hygrometers and their readings are all over the place ;D

The digital PDA type that can be bought at rustan's and infomax are also fairly accurate but seems to be off by 4-8% points on the average but at least its consistent.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: MAA on April 18, 2006, 09:35:07 PM
oh snap! i got mine from sm too

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: karloil on April 19, 2006, 08:20:43 AM
i got a lock and lock that fits my d50 plus kit lens and a rubbermaid container that fits my 80-200mm. both of them contains dehumidifiers  :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Dave_D on April 19, 2006, 02:58:30 PM
Just a heads-up

I was window shopping in Mega and I saw this available at Island Photo Digital in the basement level of Bldg. B.

(http://img.engadget.com/common/images/4081087220921744.JPG)

(http://www.yankodesign.com/images/Design_News/August_19_2005/dry_box2.jpg)

More information about it available from Vacuumsaver.com (http://www.vacuumsaver.com/vam_dry_box_vam-5101.htm)

Selling price (11.5L capacity) P 3790.00 (cash).

In a nutshell, you put your stuff in it and there's a bladder inside that expands to envelop your stuff when you remove the air via a pump built-in the unit. There's also a built-in hygrometer. I tested it there and once the air was removed, the box's RH was around 40%.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: WildSwan on April 19, 2006, 03:12:48 PM
Nice technique, less air, less moisture. :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: rufus on April 19, 2006, 04:30:02 PM
Well lemme guess sir DAve..... You bought one?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Dave_D on April 19, 2006, 05:10:54 PM
No... I already have an Am-Pro dry cabinet.

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: quixilver on April 19, 2006, 05:14:17 PM
Just a heads-up

I was window shopping in Mega and I saw this available at Island Photo Digital in the basement level of Bldg. B.

([url]http://img.engadget.com/common/images/4081087220921744.JPG[/url])

([url]http://www.yankodesign.com/images/Design_News/August_19_2005/dry_box2.jpg[/url])

More information about it available from Vacuumsaver.com ([url]http://www.vacuumsaver.com/vam_dry_box_vam-5101.htm[/url])

Selling price (11.5L capacity) P 3790.00 (cash).

In a nutshell, you put your stuff in it and there's a bladder inside that expands to envelop your stuff when you remove the air via a pump built-in the unit. There's also a built-in hygrometer. I tested it there and once the air was removed, the box's RH was around 40%.


wow! no need for silica gels anymore
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Dave_D on April 19, 2006, 05:21:14 PM
Quote
wow! no need for silica gels anymore

Yes... no more silica. I also saw a smaller unit good to fit a P&S but I didn't bother to fiddle around with it.

With the bladder removed, you can probably fit some more stuff in there.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: quixilver on April 19, 2006, 05:24:32 PM
Yes... no more silica. I also saw a smaller unit good to fit a P&S but I didn't bother to fiddle around with it.

With the bladder removed, you can probably fit some more stuff in there.

darn it! ibang dry box nakita ko sa sm manila. dapat pala naghanap muna ko. sayang naman yung nabili kong lock n lock & silica gel
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: tx on April 20, 2006, 10:05:40 AM
mas cheaper pa rin naman yun DIY dry box (Lock & Lock, hygrometer  & silica gels).  <<-- less than 1k
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: funky_monkey on April 20, 2006, 10:58:46 AM
Just a heads-up

I was window shopping in Mega and I saw this available at Island Photo Digital in the basement level of Bldg. B.

([url]http://img.engadget.com/common/images/4081087220921744.JPG[/url])

([url]http://www.yankodesign.com/images/Design_News/August_19_2005/dry_box2.jpg[/url])

More information about it available from Vacuumsaver.com ([url]http://www.vacuumsaver.com/vam_dry_box_vam-5101.htm[/url])

Selling price (11.5L capacity) P 3790.00 (cash).

In a nutshell, you put your stuff in it and there's a bladder inside that expands to envelop your stuff when you remove the air via a pump built-in the unit. There's also a built-in hygrometer. I tested it there and once the air was removed, the box's RH was around 40%.


this setup is sweet :D  anyone want to buy rechargeable silica? :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: funky_monkey on April 20, 2006, 11:02:41 AM
is 11.5L the biggest one?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: quixilver on April 20, 2006, 11:07:09 AM
mas cheaper pa rin naman yun DIY dry box (Lock & Lock, hygrometer  & silica gels).  <<-- less than 1k

nakakatamad kasi magrecharge lagi ng silica gel e. hehehe!

by the way, how does the charge on those silica gels last?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: tx on April 20, 2006, 11:27:10 AM
mas cheaper pa rin naman yun DIY dry box (Lock & Lock, hygrometer  & silica gels).  <<-- less than 1k

nakakatamad kasi magrecharge lagi ng silica gel e. hehehe!

by the way, how does the charge on those silica gels last?
nothing specified in the box pero as long as the red ones disappear..okay pa din gamitin..besides mura lang naman 1 box of 25 pcs ng silica gels (62 pesos) and i'm only using 7-8 pcs sa dry box ko..
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: litratista_ph on April 20, 2006, 11:11:09 PM
here's mine.
(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j35/litratista_ph/rh.jpg)
mga 50 butil ;D ng silica gel lang nilagay ko RH35-50%  :) kapag isang pack yung tig 50pesos sa Avenue umaabot sa 25% :o
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: funky_monkey on April 22, 2006, 01:03:02 PM
where did you buy the digital hygrometer?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: litratista_ph on April 23, 2006, 05:37:05 PM
binigay lang po ng friend ko  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: funky_monkey on April 24, 2006, 04:17:14 PM
sayang, the digital hygro looked nice.  actually looked expensive :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bulaknoy on April 24, 2006, 04:56:44 PM
mas cheaper pa rin naman yun DIY dry box (Lock & Lock, hygrometer  & silica gels).  <<-- less than 1k

nakakatamad kasi magrecharge lagi ng silica gel e. hehehe!

by the way, how does the charge on those silica gels last?

1 month :D.. kung di mo binubuksan ... 1 week kung laging bukas :D ( ang DIY drybox)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: quixilver on April 25, 2006, 10:54:37 AM
san po sa SM yung mga hygrometer? last resort ko na yung sa infomax kasi mas mura sa SM e ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: tx on April 26, 2006, 08:32:06 AM
san po sa SM yung mga hygrometer? last resort ko na yung sa infomax kasi mas mura sa SM e ;D

Men's accessories section... look for desk clocks with thermometer and hygrometer... this is the analog type and cost around PHP 180.   

BTW, medyo weird nga lang reading sa box ko....whenever I put my DSLR inside, reading goes down to 50...pag wala DSLR ko..its almost 60....

may built-in anti-fungus yata yun d50 ;D...hehehe
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Lampin on May 09, 2006, 01:12:32 PM
galing ako sa island photo, ganda ng drybox nila parang lunch box kaya lang ang liit..so decided to go to informax and get a digital hygro and make a DIY drybox. which later on tinamad ako, next day got this for 5k
(http://gsmph.com/ftp/Lampin/dry.JPG)

may space pa inside for some more lens :)

the digital hygrometer and analog hygrometer have the same readings

BR
Lampin
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Doughn on May 09, 2006, 05:13:54 PM
galing ako sa island photo, ganda ng drybox nila parang lunch box kaya lang ang liit..so decided to go to informax and get a digital hygro and make a DIY drybox. which later on tinamad ako, next day got this for 5k
([url]http://gsmph.com/ftp/Lampin/dry.JPG[/url])

may space pa inside for some more lens :)

the digital hygrometer and analog hygrometer have the same readings

BR
Lampin


asan mo nabili yung drybox mo (pictured)??

ganda ah

is this electiric powered?

thanks

- doughn
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Lampin on May 09, 2006, 05:24:02 PM
got it sa aperture trading sa Banawe QC, its electric powered with 3watts consumption..
mukhang dadami na kukuha ng dry box ah  ;)


BR
Lampin
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: WildSwan on May 09, 2006, 05:31:22 PM
I have been telling them about this electic dry box. They are not listening, they wanted a portable one, they want to have those cheap ones.. they thought it's easy to maintain Silica gel. :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Maclover on May 11, 2006, 09:40:48 AM
I bought a portable airtight box from Rational commercial for around P 700. It's like a toolbox. Then I placced a hygrometer inside. Put a few bags of silica, once the right humidity is achieved, I take them out; placed my items and closed the lid. Cheap working drybox. It accommodates, my D70, 5 lenses, etc. Good enough for me. Plus it's portable too.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bones on May 11, 2006, 05:29:34 PM
do they have any other sizes for the electric dry box in the picture?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: quixilver on May 11, 2006, 05:37:17 PM
galing ako sa island photo, ganda ng drybox nila parang lunch box kaya lang ang liit..so decided to go to informax and get a digital hygro and make a DIY drybox. which later on tinamad ako, next day got this for 5k
([url]http://gsmph.com/ftp/Lampin/dry.JPG[/url])

may space pa inside for some more lens :)

the digital hygrometer and analog hygrometer have the same readings

BR
Lampin


automatic na po ba sa ganitong drybox yung pagmaintain nya ng correct humidity?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Lampin on May 11, 2006, 10:31:57 PM
yes  automatic na siya, humidity always betwwen 38-45. naka set lang sa low ang setting ..

BR
Lampin
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Doughn on May 12, 2006, 08:43:02 AM
galing ako sa island photo, ganda ng drybox nila parang lunch box kaya lang ang liit..so decided to go to informax and get a digital hygro and make a DIY drybox. which later on tinamad ako, next day got this for 5k
([url]http://gsmph.com/ftp/Lampin/dry.JPG[/url])

may space pa inside for some more lens :)

the digital hygrometer and analog hygrometer have the same readings

BR
Lampin


automatic na po ba sa ganitong drybox yung pagmaintain nya ng correct humidity?


Maganda Talaga.... Sarap Ligawan ;D ;D

Drool...... :o
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: p3rsmag on May 12, 2006, 10:04:55 AM
Can't seem to find Digital Hygrometer's in SM (san Lazaro & Cubao).. all they have is the swivel type with clock. .doesn't look calibrated to me.

Any other stores where i can find one? sana within 200 pesos range rin
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: tx on May 12, 2006, 10:10:30 AM
Can't seem to find Digital Hygrometer's in SM (san Lazaro & Cubao).. all they have is the swivel type with clock. .doesn't look calibrated to me.

Any other stores where i can find one? sana within 200 pesos range rin

SM sells only analog hygrometers...try Infomaxx for digital hygrometers but it will cost you more (700pesos)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: beethoven on May 12, 2006, 02:04:52 PM
galing ako sa island photo, ganda ng drybox nila parang lunch box kaya lang ang liit..so decided to go to informax and get a digital hygro and make a DIY drybox. which later on tinamad ako, next day got this for 5k
([url]http://gsmph.com/ftp/Lampin/dry.JPG[/url])

may space pa inside for some more lens :)

the digital hygrometer and analog hygrometer have the same readings

BR
Lampin


automatic na po ba sa ganitong drybox yung pagmaintain nya ng correct humidity?


Maganda Talaga.... Sarap Ligawan ;D ;D

Drool...... :o



hayyy...  akala ko pa naman tapos na ang gastos...  now, i want this one :o

so far, i just keep the camera and all in the back-pack.  must-have po ba ang drybox?  top priority?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Dave_D on May 12, 2006, 02:15:28 PM
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must-have po ba ang drybox?  top priority?

That's up to you my friend.

Basta alam ko medyo substantial na nakabaong tapwe sa equipment so 5K for a drycab is like cheap insurance against the dreaded lens fungus. At 3W electrical consumption, wala pang isang flourecent bulb yan to add to your Meralco bill.

Actually pati mga ibang optics ko tinambak ko rin sa drycab like my P&S and Video Camera.

Pero backread ka... daming solutions sa thread na ito to protect your camera gear.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: beethoven on May 12, 2006, 03:37:01 PM
Quote
must-have po ba ang drybox?  top priority?

That's up to you my friend.

Basta alam ko medyo substantial na nakabaong tapwe sa equipment so 5K for a drycab is like cheap insurance against the dreaded lens fungus. At 3W electrical consumption, wala pang isang flourecent bulb yan to add to your Meralco bill.

Actually pati mga ibang optics ko tinambak ko rin sa drycab like my P&S and Video Camera.

Pero backread ka... daming solutions sa thread na ito to protect your camera gear.

thanks, sir - i've been reading through this thread, parang convinced na ko i'd go for this one.  palagay ko tatamarin din akong gumawa ng DIY (kahit na ang mukhang gagawin lang naman bumili ng container, hygrometer, silica gel hehehe).  yung vacuum box, parang maliit yata, saka una kong naisip gawin e maglagay ng ipis kung mamamatay sa loob  :D.  what's the brand/name of this drybox?  what comes with the package, kasama na yung digital at analog hygrometers?  saka sa infomax nyo rin po ba nabili to (saka saan na rin yung infomax kung sakali)?  :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bones on May 12, 2006, 06:05:59 PM
sigh, and I thought tapos na gastos ko!

it never ends, buti na lang masaya pa din ako,

puwede naman instant noodles kainin ko for a few months para tipid :'(
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: loft216 on May 12, 2006, 08:32:12 PM
just bought a digital thermometer and hygrometer (like the one in the picture)in rustans. i got it for php750.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Lampin on May 12, 2006, 09:29:35 PM
@beethoven

brand is eureka. taiwan brand, got it at aperture trading sa Banwe QC, nadun sa previous reply ko..comes with analog hygrometer, yun digital hygro  galing infomax yun , binili ko kasi at first plan ko mag DIY ng drybox..I think you will not regret getting a drybox, at least alam mo safe yun camera at lens mo..

BR
Lampin

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: beethoven on May 13, 2006, 12:43:29 AM
@beethoven

brand is eureka. taiwan brand, got it at aperture trading sa Banwe QC, nadun sa previous reply ko..comes with analog hygrometer, yun digital hygro  galing infomax yun , binili ko kasi at first plan ko mag DIY ng drybox..I think you will not regret getting a drybox, at least alam mo safe yun camera at lens mo..

BR
Lampin


thanks, Lampin  :)  Banawe QC, ang lapit ko lang dito - madaling bitbitin pauwi - malamang neto makapagpiga sa budget at makabili, lalo na tag-ulan na saka may nabasa ako sa FAQ thread saan daw pwede magpalinis ng fungi sa lens.  hindi pwede yun, ni hindi ko nga pinalalamukan camera/lens e  :D  saan banda ang Aperture, malapit sa Quezon Ave? (maka-research na nga...)  thanks again!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: sands on May 13, 2006, 10:33:02 PM
Can't seem to find Digital Hygrometer's in SM (san Lazaro & Cubao).. all they have is the swivel type with clock. .doesn't look calibrated to me.

Any other stores where i can find one? sana within 200 pesos range rin

SM sells only analog hygrometers...try Infomaxx for digital hygrometers but it will cost you more (700pesos)

I was able to buy the analog type in SM Makati last weekend (around P180), last 2 items na lang, buti nakahabol hehe.. and yes, they seem not accurately calibrated, but it surely works.. one problem of mine though, I opened the back cover to adjust the thermometer coil.. pero accidentally budged the hygrometer coil, kaya I need to calibrate it or rather compare the reading with a more accurate hygrometer para at least medyo close to accurate hehe :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Mr Ez on May 13, 2006, 11:42:14 PM
 :)

FWIW, the Eureka Dry Cabinets have a hygrometer that's made in Germany. It's pretty well made too and I would say it's very comparable to the AM-PRo brand or maybe better (?), which I was seriously considering in getting until I finally decided to get a Eureka.

Aperture is selling this Eureka Dry cabs/box and they're selling a lot - this afternoon alone when I got my unit from them, there were 2 of us buying the same unit, and this morning they have already sold 5 units!
Seems like the rainy weather (humidity and moisture) too has got something to do with the surge in sales.

Great customer service/assistance from Jennifer... happy with the purchase.

 :)




 
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Paul on May 14, 2006, 10:44:44 AM
May friend ako nagka fungus canon lens nya. Raymund Isaac told me to just put it beside or underneath a light bulb to kill the mold. ...it works!:)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Dave_D on May 14, 2006, 10:59:22 AM
But how do you remove the already dead fungus still on the lens?

Drycabs are a preventative measure, not a solution if you already have fungus growth on your lens.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Paul on May 14, 2006, 11:04:09 AM
oonga no:) ask ko friend ko :) sabi nya ok na daw lens nya eh :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: joachim on May 16, 2006, 06:53:42 AM
a few weeks ago tragedy struck our studio.  a neighboring fire affected the top floors of our building.  our studio, which was on the second floor, suffered from water damage, aside from fire damaged airconditioning units.  all my cameras, lenses & acc's are packed in pelican & doscocil air tight cases and are back in action.  though i don't have a studio for now, at least i can still do on location shoots. these bags really could protect your gear from water damage, but i wouldn't know how it would stand against fire.

oh btw, thanks to jo avila, the greatest pinoy photographer, for offering the use of his studio while we're renovating.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Oculus on May 16, 2006, 02:54:19 PM
a few weeks ago tragedy struck our studio.  a neighboring fire affected the top floors of our building.............

Sorry to hear this, glad that no one was hurt and you're precious equipment is still okay.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: trempot on May 17, 2006, 02:38:33 PM
^^Sorry to hear about that, sir joachim. :(

Anyway, nakakasira ba ang fungus sa lens? Or parang dumi lang siya that stays there? Yun kasing old Pentax SLR namin is in dire need of cleaning, but we haven't gotten around to bringing it to the service center. Medyo ilang years na rin yun... :(

Sensha na kung *toink* question, nakakahilo mag-back read eh...haba ng thread! :P
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bones on May 22, 2006, 01:31:47 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/bones22/DSC00194.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/bones22/DSC00193.jpg)

Just saw this in Ace hardware in rockwell,

kinda steep if you ask me, its just an airtight lock box, with a meter up front. (cheaper nga if you make it yourself) But its a good option for those who would rather just spend than build thier own.

I made a mistake and deleted the picture showing the complete product.

By my estimate, you can fit your camera body and two lenses (unless its a long telephoto lens)

the tag says its a dehumidifier, but I didnt see anything for that, you probably have to add some silica packs for this.


Aslo I saw some silica packs being sold, 70-80 bucks for 25 packs, The only thing interesting is that these silica packs turn pink when they have absorbed thier fill of moisture, you can recharge them by baking them under the sun until they turn blue. (no more guess work)

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: tx on May 22, 2006, 01:34:44 PM
Anyway, nakakasira ba ang fungus sa lens?

Lens Fungus shows up frequently on lenses used in humid climates. You can see it by opening up the diaphragm, holding the lens to a light, and looking for growths on the lens elements that appear like faint spiderwebs. This is generally the kiss of death for lenses. Depending on how widely spread the fungus is, you can see a substantial loss of contrast.

It can be removed but is costly that's why its better to store your gears in a drybox to prevent growth of fungus. :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: CMT on May 23, 2006, 03:18:55 PM
([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/bones22/DSC00194.jpg[/url])
([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/bones22/DSC00193.jpg[/url])

Just saw this in Ace hardware in rockwell,

kinda steep if you ask me, its just an airtight lock box, with a meter up front. (cheaper nga if you make it yourself) But its a good option for those who would rather just spend than build thier own.

I made a mistake and deleted the picture showing the complete product.

By my estimate, you can fit your camera body and two lenses (unless its a long telephoto lens)

the tag says its a dehumidifier, but I didnt see anything for that, you probably have to add some silica packs for this.


Aslo I saw some silica packs being sold, 70-80 bucks for 25 packs, The only thing interesting is that these silica packs turn pink when they have absorbed thier fill of moisture, you can recharge them by baking them under the sun until they turn blue. (no more guess work)




This includes an electronically rejuvinated silica pack worth 800-1.5k. My main concern for this is the accuracy of the builtin hygrometer.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bones on May 23, 2006, 06:56:56 PM
i didnt see an electronically rechargable silica pack in thier demo box, Ill go back again and check the other stocks.

But yes, I would have cause to doubt the accuracy of the hygrometer.

Which is why I bought a eureka dry box instead.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: CMT on May 23, 2006, 08:36:33 PM
This is normally sold less 20% before so less than 2.2k ito before. It should come with the silica pack. You can actually buy just the silica pack
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: beethoven on May 23, 2006, 09:07:51 PM
hurray!  i just got the Eureka Auto Dry Box from < Aperture > (http://www.aperturetrading.com/)  ;)

mabenta nga talaga yata ito, there were two of us buying when i got there that afternoon - siguro PiPho member din ;D

what i'm really happy about is the kindness of the people at Aperture - they're not after making profit out of you.  on that day, i bought a Manfrotto ball head as well, but it didn't fit my Slik tripod leg.  i got back to return the item, and a snap decision to get the leg (tripod set) for an instant upgrade  :D - but the good lady advised me otherwise, kasi may tripod naman daw ako na e, and referred me to look for the head replacement i need from another store first.  whew!  medyo OT pero konting kwento lang ;-)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jorem on May 24, 2006, 03:06:58 AM
Eureka sounds a very good buy :)

just a question about the DIY version. I just bought Silica Gel packets from Handyman (after a lengthy hunt  ;)). they came in small plastic packets instead of the cloth/paper-like material i'm used to. do i just use the plastic packets or should i transfer the contents first to another cloth-like bag? there's no instruction on the box about this.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bones on May 24, 2006, 01:14:50 PM
hurray!  i just got the Eureka Auto Dry Box from < Aperture > ([url]http://www.aperturetrading.com/[/url])  ;)

mabenta nga talaga yata ito, there were two of us buying when i got there that afternoon - siguro PiPho member din ;D

what i'm really happy about is the kindness of the people at Aperture - they're not after making profit out of you.  on that day, i bought a Manfrotto ball head as well, but it didn't fit my Slik tripod leg.  i got back to return the item, and a snap decision to get the leg (tripod set) for an instant upgrade  :D - but the good lady advised me otherwise, kasi may tripod naman daw ako na e, and referred me to look for the head replacement i need from another store first.  whew!  medyo OT pero konting kwento lang ;-)


If you were there last monday, That was me buying the dry box.

How is yours? I havent finished setting up the place for my dry box so I havent tested it yet.

I was soo tempted to get the largest one so I would have a place to store my mothers stamp collection na din, but medyo wala lang sa budget.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: beethoven on May 24, 2006, 02:05:38 PM
hurray!  i just got the Eureka Auto Dry Box from < Aperture > ([url]http://www.aperturetrading.com/[/url])  ;)

mabenta nga talaga yata ito, there were two of us buying when i got there that afternoon - siguro PiPho member din ;D

what i'm really happy about is the kindness of the people at Aperture - they're not after making profit out of you.  on that day, i bought a Manfrotto ball head as well, but it didn't fit my Slik tripod leg.  i got back to return the item, and a snap decision to get the leg (tripod set) for an instant upgrade  :D - but the good lady advised me otherwise, kasi may tripod naman daw ako na e, and referred me to look for the head replacement i need from another store first.  whew!  medyo OT pero konting kwento lang ;-)


If you were there last monday, That was me buying the dry box.

How is yours? I havent finished setting up the place for my dry box so I havent tested it yet.

I was soo tempted to get the largest one so I would have a place to store my mothers stamp collection na din, but medyo wala lang sa budget.



yup!  i was there last Monday afternoon ;)  nag-try din ako buhatin yung display kung mabigat :D

i have no room for the big ones, though kung P1,000 lang sana ang difference e di syempre yun na lang malaki.

i just got the unit Tuesday morning, wala kasi akong sasakyan kaya buti na lang may delivery pala sila, kasi ang laki nung packaging.  i left it empty and powered up overnight (so the manual says) - then after a while, namatay yung front LED indicator.  akala ko bumigay na kaagad :o  then was the only time i did a full RTFM, normal lang pala yun.  then when i woke up the next morning, below 40 na ang reading sa hygrometer ;-)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: equus on May 24, 2006, 11:29:54 PM
yup!  i was there last Monday afternoon ;)  nag-try din ako buhatin yung display kung mabigat :D

i have no room for the big ones, though kung P1,000 lang sana ang difference e di syempre yun na lang malaki.

i just got the unit Tuesday morning, wala kasi akong sasakyan kaya buti na lang may delivery pala sila, kasi ang laki nung packaging.  i left it empty and powered up overnight (so the manual says) - then after a while, namatay yung front LED indicator.  akala ko bumigay na kaagad :o  then was the only time i did a full RTFM, normal lang pala yun.  then when i woke up the next morning, below 40 na ang reading sa hygrometer ;-)

Hi! Which model did you get? Care to post a pic? Thanks!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: equus on May 24, 2006, 11:34:46 PM
If you were there last monday, That was me buying the dry box.

How is yours? I havent finished setting up the place for my dry box so I havent tested it yet.

I was soo tempted to get the largest one so I would have a place to store my mothers stamp collection na din, but medyo wala lang sa budget.


Hi! Which model did you get? Care to post a pic? Thanks!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: beethoven on May 25, 2006, 04:29:29 AM
Hi! Which model did you get? Care to post a pic? Thanks!


this should take you to a page on this thread with the pics from Lampin --> Lampin's Eureka Dry Box (http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=28.255)

the brand is Eureka, i don't know the model :D  nakalagay lang sa manual "Eureka Auto DryBox" - it's the smallest one we got, inside dimensions of the cabinet is about W = 12in, H = 18in, D = 12in.  about the weight, masasabi ko lang magaan lang naman, about 3kg siguro.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: equus on May 25, 2006, 09:23:40 AM
this should take you to a page on this thread with the pics from Lampin --> Lampin's Eureka Dry Box ([url]http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=28.255[/url])

the brand is Eureka, i don't know the model :D  nakalagay lang sa manual "Eureka Auto DryBox" - it's the smallest one we got, inside dimensions of the cabinet is about W = 12in, H = 18in, D = 12in.  about the weight, masasabi ko lang magaan lang naman, about 3kg siguro.


Oh, ok... so it's the same one Lampin got. Thanks!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bones on May 25, 2006, 07:36:53 PM
hurray!  i just got the Eureka Auto Dry Box from < Aperture > ([url]http://www.aperturetrading.com/[/url])  ;)

mabenta nga talaga yata ito, there were two of us buying when i got there that afternoon - siguro PiPho member din ;D

what i'm really happy about is the kindness of the people at Aperture - they're not after making profit out of you.  on that day, i bought a Manfrotto ball head as well, but it didn't fit my Slik tripod leg.  i got back to return the item, and a snap decision to get the leg (tripod set) for an instant upgrade  :D - but the good lady advised me otherwise, kasi may tripod naman daw ako na e, and referred me to look for the head replacement i need from another store first.  whew!  medyo OT pero konting kwento lang ;-)


If you were there last monday, That was me buying the dry box.

How is yours? I havent finished setting up the place for my dry box so I havent tested it yet.

I was soo tempted to get the largest one so I would have a place to store my mothers stamp collection na din, but medyo wala lang sa budget.



yup!  i was there last Monday afternoon ;)  nag-try din ako buhatin yung display kung mabigat :D

i have no room for the big ones, though kung P1,000 lang sana ang difference e di syempre yun na lang malaki.

i just got the unit Tuesday morning, wala kasi akong sasakyan kaya buti na lang may delivery pala sila, kasi ang laki nung packaging.  i left it empty and powered up overnight (so the manual says) - then after a while, namatay yung front LED indicator.  akala ko bumigay na kaagad :o  then was the only time i did a full RTFM, normal lang pala yun.  then when i woke up the next morning, below 40 na ang reading sa hygrometer ;-)


Yeah I know, If the huge one was just a bit more expensive, I would have gone for that na din. I guess my stamps will just have to stay in the DIY dry box. Medyo madaya sa mata yung box, Its a lot larger than the unit itself, but with good reason, at least well protected siya in transport.

I had the same experience, When I came back naka-patay yung LED in front, akala ko sira, but the dryer does switch off once it reaches the desired level.

My drybox is set to high at the moment, but with all the things I have inside, It only goes down to 50. (well the manual says when set to "high" an "empty" dry box will go to 45 or below ata.

The size is perfect for my equipment, 2 SLR, 1 P&S, 4 lenses, and a few more abubot, and I still have a lot more space for other things. I had to buy one of those rubber no slip matts from ace hardware para di magasgas yung gamit ko against the steel flooring.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: beethoven on May 25, 2006, 08:33:47 PM
4) it seems that everyone wants to achieve the 39 reading in the hydrometer.  What is the basis of this?
i dont know the magic number.  i try to keep mine below 50, didnt know it was wrong :D.  anyone have the basis for 39 reading? please enlighten us.



keeping it below 50% RH isn't wrong, the actual safe range is actually from 20-60%RH.  40%RH is the median so that's the figure that is often used to provide a balance between keeping your equipment fungus free while not overly drying the rubber parts(which could lead to deterioration and cracking) and drying the lubricant of the lens(occurs when reading is constantly below 25%RH).  
Here's a link to an article, hope this helps

[url]http://www.totechamerica.com/html/index_optics.php[/url]


this is good info, now that i got the dry box and have everything setup, i began wondering am i doing it right in terms of humidity needed?  so i had to read back through the thread and found the answer.  just to reiterate Oculus link for a good and brief reading -> Dry Storage of Lenses & Optics (http://www.totechamerica.com/html/index_optics.php)


Yeah I know, If the huge one was just a bit more expensive, I would have gone for that na din. I guess my stamps will just have to stay in the DIY dry box. Medyo madaya sa mata yung box, Its a lot larger than the unit itself, but with good reason, at least well protected siya in transport.

I had the same experience, When I came back naka-patay yung LED in front, akala ko sira, but the dryer does switch off once it reaches the desired level.

My drybox is set to high at the moment, but with all the things I have inside, It only goes down to 50. (well the manual says when set to "high" an "empty" dry box will go to 45 or below ata.

The size is perfect for my equipment, 2 SLR, 1 P&S, 4 lenses, and a few more abubot, and I still have a lot more space for other things. I had to buy one of those rubber no slip matts from ace hardware para di magasgas yung gamit ko against the steel flooring.


last night, i got my things inside the dry box and left the dial on "High" - when i woke up, the gauge was at 50.  when i got back home from work tonight, the reading was at 38 still at "High."  after reading the manual again, "Medium" was the recommended setting for optical instruments, cameras, lenses, etc. - now the dial's set to "M" - hmmm, seems i'm keeping myself preoccupied with this hygrometer humidity thing :D

"rubber no slip matt" - thanks for the tip, now i know how it's called, di na ko mahirapan maghanap at mag-describe sa salesperson sa ace.  masyado nang bine-baby itong camera na to a :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bones on May 27, 2006, 04:48:18 PM
Yeah I know, If the huge one was just a bit more expensive, I would have gone for that na din. I guess my stamps will just have to stay in the DIY dry box. Medyo madaya sa mata yung box, Its a lot larger than the unit itself, but with good reason, at least well protected siya in transport.

I had the same experience, When I came back naka-patay yung LED in front, akala ko sira, but the dryer does switch off once it reaches the desired level.

My drybox is set to high at the moment, but with all the things I have inside, It only goes down to 50. (well the manual says when set to "high" an "empty" dry box will go to 45 or below ata.

The size is perfect for my equipment, 2 SLR, 1 P&S, 4 lenses, and a few more abubot, and I still have a lot more space for other things. I had to buy one of those rubber no slip matts from ace hardware para di magasgas yung gamit ko against the steel flooring.

last night, i got my things inside the dry box and left the dial on "High" - when i woke up, the gauge was at 50.  when i got back home from work tonight, the reading was at 38 still at "High."  after reading the manual again, "Medium" was the recommended setting for optical instruments, cameras, lenses, etc. - now the dial's set to "M" - hmmm, seems i'm keeping myself preoccupied with this hygrometer humidity thing :D

"rubber no slip matt" - thanks for the tip, now i know how it's called, di na ko mahirapan maghanap at mag-describe sa salesperson sa ace.  masyado nang bine-baby itong camera na to a :D
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its called an "Anti-slip liner". Got mine for P59.75 at ace hardware, The brand I got was DURASOFT, There were other brands as well, more expensive but I couldnt tell the difference so i gotthe cheaper one. I had a hard time as well trying to explain what i wanted from the sales lady. What I did was go to the automotive section, and ask the lady for the no slip matt, (they obviously know that item there since its quite popular sa automotive section). Then I asked her which section has the same item but sold in a roll. Bingo! she pointed me to the section I needed.

I placed my dry box to M setting now, Its still reading below 50 at the moment, I placed silica packs inside (sayang kasi yung nabili ko a week before) so this allows me to unplug the unit. At least tipid ako sa electricity, Ill probably have to plug the dry box in again when I take out my stuff then put them back after a shoot.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bones on May 29, 2006, 12:38:29 PM
I just came from True Value and saw other silica packs on sale, what caught my attention was one that is recharged in the microwave.

Its roughly the size of two childrens bean bags (the toy and not the furniture). it has an indicator of when its time to recharge the pack. And according to the packaging, you just need to stick it in the microwave for 5-10 minutes to recharge.

It sure beats having to leave it under the sun, especialy during the rainny season.

Price is P166
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: masterjecht on May 29, 2006, 01:58:00 PM
I just came from True Value and saw other silica packs on sale, what caught my attention was one that is recharged in the microwave.

Its roughly the size of two childrens bean bags (the toy and not the furniture). it has an indicator of when its time to recharge the pack. And according to the packaging, you just need to stick it in the microwave for 5-10 minutes to recharge.

It sure beats having to leave it under the sun, especialy during the rainny season.

Price is P166

sir bones,

san branch ng True Value niyo nakita yung silica packs?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bones on May 30, 2006, 06:07:02 PM
I just came from True Value and saw other silica packs on sale, what caught my attention was one that is recharged in the microwave.

Its roughly the size of two childrens bean bags (the toy and not the furniture). it has an indicator of when its time to recharge the pack. And according to the packaging, you just need to stick it in the microwave for 5-10 minutes to recharge.

It sure beats having to leave it under the sun, especialy during the rainny season.

Price is P166

sir bones,

san branch ng True Value niyo nakita yung silica packs?
Thanks.

true value rockwell
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jorem on May 31, 2006, 12:39:28 AM
Finally decided to make my own DIY dry box :)

-11.5 liter Biokips box (similar to Lock and Lock, but they offer a bigger size. L&L has a more secure locking mechanism though): P 799 (SM makati)
- Digital Thermometer and Hygrometer: P 700 (info max)
- silica gel packs (Handy Man): P30
- Rubber no slip mat (ACE): P 110
TOTAL: P 1,639

now i'm playing the waiting game. tagal bumaba ng RH reading. now it's at 67%. :)

i'd have to get those microwavable silica packs para mas convenient ang recharging.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ESM on May 31, 2006, 07:50:35 AM
jorem,
how do you make sure the digital hygrometer is still accurate?  or if it still gives the correct reading...  i am just curious how the digital one works...  but i like its display.. very clear. :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jorem on May 31, 2006, 04:49:51 PM
jorem,
how do you make sure the digital hygrometer is still accurate?  or if it still gives the correct reading...  i am just curious how the digital one works...  but i like its display.. very clear. :)

@ ESM: i guess you'd have to buy another one hehe :) but what i did first was test if it would correctly detect the change in temp and humidity if i turn on the aircon in my room. it did that so i'm pretty sure it works :) kaso lang up till now, hindi ko pa rin mapababa ng at least 50% yung RH. stuck na sya at 65% even if i add more silica packs. mas ok pa nga yung kapag naka-aircon, low temp and humidity (around 44%RH), kaso patay ka sa meralco :D sana lang may backlight
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bones on May 31, 2006, 05:47:42 PM
jorem,
how do you make sure the digital hygrometer is still accurate?  or if it still gives the correct reading...  i am just curious how the digital one works...  but i like its display.. very clear. :)

@ ESM: i guess you'd have to buy another one hehe :) but what i did first was test if it would correctly detect the change in temp and humidity if i turn on the aircon in my room. it did that so i'm pretty sure it works :) kaso lang up till now, hindi ko pa rin mapababa ng at least 50% yung RH. stuck na sya at 65% even if i add more silica packs. mas ok pa nga yung kapag naka-aircon, low temp and humidity (around 44%RH), kaso patay ka sa meralco :D sana lang may backlight

One thing to consider is the frequency at which you open up your dry box.

What i have noticed with my eureka dry box is that the reading on the hygrometer changes significantly whenever I open up my dry box to get some stuff. I guess the more humid air transfers into the dry box even in that short span of time.

The silica packs can only absorb about 40% of thier weight in moisture, the rate at which it absorbs moisture will vary so if you constantly open your dry box, then the hygrometer goes back a few steps and your silica packs have more moisture to absorb.

If your silica packs dont have an indicator then it will be difficult to tell when they are getting close to the saturation point, thus the effectivity in absorbing moisture goes down. Adding more packs of silica may not solve your problem if the packs are already saturated with moisture without you knowing.

So i guess it will be important first to know if you are using enough silica packs and that the packs are still capable of absorbing moisture. after that you can either borrow another hygrometer to calibrate yours, or lend your hygrometer to someone whose drybox works so you can compare.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bones on May 31, 2006, 05:48:52 PM
jorem,
how do you make sure the digital hygrometer is still accurate?  or if it still gives the correct reading...  i am just curious how the digital one works...  but i like its display.. very clear. :)

@ ESM: i guess you'd have to buy another one hehe :) but what i did first was test if it would correctly detect the change in temp and humidity if i turn on the aircon in my room. it did that so i'm pretty sure it works :) kaso lang up till now, hindi ko pa rin mapababa ng at least 50% yung RH. stuck na sya at 65% even if i add more silica packs. mas ok pa nga yung kapag naka-aircon, low temp and humidity (around 44%RH), kaso patay ka sa meralco :D sana lang may backlight

One thing to consider is the frequency at which you open up your dry box.

What i have noticed with my eureka dry box is that the reading on the hygrometer changes significantly whenever I open up my dry box to get some stuff. I guess the more humid air transfers into the dry box even in that short span of time.

The silica packs can only absorb about 40% of thier weight in moisture, the rate at which it absorbs moisture will vary so if you constantly open your dry box, then the hygrometer goes back a few steps and your silica packs have more moisture to absorb.

If your silica packs dont have an indicator then it will be difficult to tell when they are getting close to the saturation point, thus the effectivity in absorbing moisture goes down. Adding more packs of silica may not solve your problem if the packs are already saturated with moisture without you knowing.

So i guess it will be important first to know if you are using enough silica packs and that the packs are still capable of absorbing moisture. after that you can either borrow another hygrometer to calibrate yours, or lend your hygrometer to someone whose drybox works so you can compare.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bones on May 31, 2006, 05:50:24 PM
sorry for the double post
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jorem on May 31, 2006, 08:10:21 PM
thanks for the info, bones :)

the silica packs i bought has an indicator. they change in color when they are already saturated. i just placed them near the sides so i can easily monitor them. i also stopped opening the box and the reading went down by 5% :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: diver on June 04, 2006, 08:55:12 PM
Just in case some of the members are looking for hygrometers ... saw a lot in Concorde Southmall - Yes, the car accessories store ( I know they have branches in other areas naman ).  There are different types. Price ranges between P230-390.  Small lang siya

There are also some sa mens section of SM Southmall that comes with a clock pero if you are imaginative ... siyempre pwede mo sila paghiwalay  ;D Cost is P200.00 only.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: p3rsmag on June 04, 2006, 09:27:37 PM
thanks for the heads-up diver. Are there any digital hygormeters available in Concorde. Saw the ones being sold at SM, they don't look accurate.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: diver on June 04, 2006, 09:36:58 PM
All the hygrometers that I saw are all analog eh.  Sa infomax meron digital ... tawad nalang kayo to the max  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bones on June 05, 2006, 12:30:12 PM
I got a digital hygrometer from infomax and placed it in my eureka dry box.

I noticed that there was a difference in the reading of the digital hygrometer and the analogue one that came with the eureka.

The digital was reading 37 while the eureka was reading 45. Although its hard to determine which one is more accurate, at least both readings are well within the proper range for my dry box.

Has anyone tried this and what are your experiences regarding this?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Dave_D on June 06, 2006, 11:04:27 AM
There's a proverb I heard somewhere...

The person with 1 watch always know the time. The person with 2 is never sure.

I'd trust the digital. I have one in my data center and it's pretty much spot on.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: WildSwan on June 06, 2006, 11:16:49 AM
Analog and Digital Hygrometer....

On our specific use, I'd go for the analog. The application is not needed to be that precise. The fact that we are to use specific ranges of RH, it defeats the use of Digital. Mind you, the range is even wide enough for an analog measurement.

So if you can't get the expensive digital, get the analog. But do not compare both. :D

Disadvantage of Digital is being powered by a battery. The accuracy of it depends on the battery. :D

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: beethoven on June 06, 2006, 11:34:19 AM
I got a digital hygrometer from infomax and placed it in my eureka dry box.

I noticed that there was a difference in the reading of the digital hygrometer and the analogue one that came with the eureka.

The digital was reading 37 while the eureka was reading 45. Although its hard to determine which one is more accurate, at least both readings are well within the proper range for my dry box.

Has anyone tried this and what are your experiences regarding this?

the analog reading on my box is about 43.  for comparison, the contents are: 350D, 5 lenses, flash, Sony p&s, Sony mini-dv, and others.  the dial is set midway between "M" and "H."  i'm getting curious about this digital hygrometer thing...  should i or should i not investigate hmmmm...  :-\
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Lampin on June 06, 2006, 12:49:27 PM
From my experience, a little difference lang sila plus or minus 1-2 lang .. before i sold my digital hygrogrometer

BR
Lampin
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: CMT on June 06, 2006, 01:33:44 PM
It also matters where/how you position the hygrometer. If you put in on top of the de-humidifier with the measuring side on the de-humidifier, the reading would be lower than the average.

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: raymond on June 07, 2006, 04:06:08 PM
got this from aperture the other day  ;D wala pa kasi stock nung small and medium size.  :(
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/R_schumacher/IMG_8384e2.jpg)
DX-106 model
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bones on June 07, 2006, 09:00:32 PM
got this from aperture the other day  ;D wala pa kasi stock nung small and medium size.  :(
([url]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/R_schumacher/IMG_8384e2.jpg[/url])
DX-106 model



Droooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bones on June 07, 2006, 09:05:15 PM
Thanks by the way to everyone who replied to my post.

At present, the diff between the digital and the analogue is "10" with the digital having a lower reading.

I had a digital one because I had to make a DIY dry box for my stamp collection, (la pa budget for another eureka) Out of curiosity I placed the digital one into the eureka to test and see if the analogue one is giving a proper reading.

Imagine if it registers 50 when it actually is at 70. I would end up with a huge cleaning bill for all my lenses. Without a basis of comparison, then there would be no way of knowing.

But as long as the reading is well within the safe range for both devices, Im happy.

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jorem on June 08, 2006, 03:28:25 AM
got this from aperture the other day  ;D wala pa kasi stock nung small and medium size.  :(
([url]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/R_schumacher/IMG_8384e2.jpg[/url])
DX-106 model


whoa!  :o  @raymond: what are those 3 dials at the left for?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: beethoven on June 08, 2006, 09:22:26 AM
still puzzled and curious about the 10-units difference between the digital and analog hygrometers in bones's drybox - it's just that a difference of 10 is too significant to ignore even when we agree that we don't have to be accurate to the hundredths place.  anyway, could be that the two meters are using different units/methods of measurement?

just a good reading to define humidity:

Moisture in the Atmosphere (http://www.uwsp.edu/geo/faculty/ritter/geog101/textbook/atmospheric_moisture/humidity.html)
(author: a faculty from www.uwsp.edu)

Humidity is a measure of the water vapor content of the air. The amount of water vapor in the air depends on the controls over evaporation discussed earlier. There are several ways in which a meteorologist can express the humidity of the air. Each humidity measure is controlled to some degree by air temperature.

Absolute humidity is the weight of water vapor per unit volume of air, usually measured in units of grams of water vapor per cubic meter of air. Absolute humidity is not often used to express the moisture content of air because it is sensitive to changes in both the temperature of the air and atmospheric pressure. For instance, let's say that a 1 cubic meter parcel of air at the surface has 2 grams of water in it. Now lift the parcel of air upwards into the atmosphere. As the air rises upward the decrease in atmospheric pressure on the parcel allows it to expand outward occupying more space. Let's say that the parcel doubles in size as a result of uplift. Before rising, the absolute humidity was 2 gm/m3. As the air doubles in volume the new absolute humidity is 1 gm/ m3. In actuality the parcel still has the same weight of water in it, 2 grams. But given the way absolute humidity is calculated it appears the amount of water in the air has decreased.

Instead of absolute humidity, we use a measure that is not sensitive to volume changes in the air. Specific humidity is measured as the weight of water vapor in the air per unit weight of air, which includes the weight of water vapor. The units of measurement are grams of water vapor per kilogram of air. Given that weight is not significantly influenced by temperature or atmospheric pressure, specific humidity is much more useful as a measure of humidity. Another measure very similar to specific humidity is the mixing ratio. The mixing ratio is the weight of water vapor per unit weight of dry air. Because  the atmosphere is made up of so little moisture by volume, the mixing ratio is virtually the same as the specific humidity.

Humidity is not only measured as a weight, but also by the pressure it creates. Vapor pressure is the partial pressure created by water vapor. Vapor pressure, like atmospheric pressure, is measured in millibars and is relatively insensitive to volumetric expansion or temperature. The saturation vapor pressure is simply the pressure that water vapor creates when the air is fully saturated.

complete text here --> http://www.uwsp.edu/geo/faculty/ritter/geog101/textbook/atmospheric_moisture/humidity.html (http://www.uwsp.edu/geo/faculty/ritter/geog101/textbook/atmospheric_moisture/humidity.html)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: raymond on June 08, 2006, 12:21:16 PM
Quote
whoa!  :o  @raymond: what are those 3 dials at the left for?

ah, those are for temperature, time and another for humidity (just to double check).  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: CMT on June 08, 2006, 12:32:32 PM
@raymond

How much did the big one costs?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: funky_monkey on June 08, 2006, 02:29:05 PM
good thing i got the smallest one already last saturday.  :D :D bilis maubos!  do you set it on high?  problem ko kasi i set it on high,  reading drops to 30.  but if i put it in between medium and high, reading rises to 55.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: beethoven on June 08, 2006, 03:00:22 PM
good thing i got the smallest one already last saturday.  :D :D bilis maubos!  do you set it on high?  problem ko kasi i set it on high,  reading drops to 30.  but if i put it in between medium and high, reading rises to 55.

;)  what's in your box?  i used to set it on "H" the reading was between 35 and 40.  now it's midway "M" and "H" the reading is stable at 43.  my box is located near a window, dependent kaya sa location yung ability ng box to function effectively well?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: funky_monkey on June 08, 2006, 04:02:07 PM
good thing i got the smallest one already last saturday.  :D :D bilis maubos!  do you set it on high?  problem ko kasi i set it on high,  reading drops to 30.  but if i put it in between medium and high, reading rises to 55.

;)  what's in your box?  i used to set it on "H" the reading was between 35 and 40.  now it's midway "M" and "H" the reading is stable at 43.  my box is located near a window, dependent kaya sa location yung ability ng box to function effectively well?

inside the box, 1 SLR body, 3 long lenses, 1 short lens, 2 flash, some memory cards.  batteries.  yung akin near the aircon.  so the aircon blows onto the box.  should i reposition?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Doughn on June 08, 2006, 09:10:09 PM
mga sirs

kindly post the prices of S, M, L Boxes from Aperture.

TIA

-doughn
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kieron on June 08, 2006, 11:10:50 PM
@raymond

How much did you bought your dry box? meron pa kaya mas malaki?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Cenzai_76 on June 09, 2006, 10:08:08 AM
if you have question regarding am-pro dry cabinet just writye me thanks
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Cenzai_76 on June 09, 2006, 02:55:55 PM
(http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h106/uishiro21/EQ-12.jpg)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: raymond on June 09, 2006, 02:59:29 PM
@ CMT,
     The original price was 14,000 pero nakatawad ako (will not post na lang the price na may tawad).  :D

@ kieron,
     Wala na po, largest is this one.

@Doughn
Small - 5,000
Medium - 9,500
Large - 14,000

These are original prices, i think they are willing to give discounts.  ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: quixilver on June 09, 2006, 03:05:10 PM
@ CMT,
     The original price was 14,000 pero nakatawad ako (will not post na lang the price na may tawad).  :D

@ kieron,
     Wala na po, largest is this one.

@Doughn
Small - 5,000
Medium - 9,500
Large - 14,000

These are original prices, i think they are willing to give discounts.  ;)

thanks raymond! i'll take a look at the small & medium. sana maaalaala ako ni sir frank :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Doughn on June 09, 2006, 08:59:04 PM
@ raymond

thanks for the info

-doughn
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kieron on June 10, 2006, 08:19:30 AM
Gusto ko kasi sana pasok yung xl2 ko.. anyways.... i'll check out am-pro muna. which is better? the eureka from frank or the am-pro?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bastified on June 13, 2006, 05:14:58 PM
saan po ba ung aperture store? thanks.  :)

sorry po newbie here.  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: tx on June 13, 2006, 05:32:59 PM
saan po ba ung aperture store? thanks.  :)

sorry po newbie here.  ;D


http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=50.0 (http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=50.0)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bastified on June 14, 2006, 04:25:16 PM
saan po ba ung aperture store? thanks.  :)

sorry po newbie here.  ;D


[url]http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=50.0[/url] ([url]http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=50.0[/url])


thanks bro. :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ABC on June 16, 2006, 10:20:27 AM

i usually open my dry box early in the morning when the air in my room is pretty dry from having the air-conditioning turned on all night. i put about 10 silica packs (the ones that come 25 packs from true value) per dry box, and im able to maintain 49-51% RH consistantly (per analog hygrometer).
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kriskent on June 27, 2006, 09:11:05 PM
i guess this is also a keeping gear hehe, my pelican 1550

(http://i.pbase.com/g4/20/592720/2/62568798.71WaSzf2.jpg)

(http://i.pbase.com/g4/20/592720/2/62568843.8ost52WL.jpg)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: schnitzerz4 on June 27, 2006, 09:23:18 PM
wow hanep :D

saan kaya nakakabili dito nyan? mukhang safe na safe ang gears :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Jeric on June 27, 2006, 09:27:40 PM
wow hanep :D

saan kaya nakakabili dito nyan? mukhang safe na safe ang gears :D

*toink* Ogs, you can check out Island Photo sa Gamboa and Dive shops. Meron Dive shop sa may Perea St, in Legaspi Village, medyo mura magbigay ng cost yung japanese owner. I don't know the name pero you can't miss it, its the building across Greenbelt Mansions.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kieron on June 27, 2006, 09:28:35 PM
Ganda ng box. Wow! Where do you buy pelican boxes?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: schnitzerz4 on June 27, 2006, 09:29:56 PM
thanks *toink* jeric :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kriskent on June 27, 2006, 09:31:12 PM
hi schinitz,

safe indeed.  These cases are watertight and airtight.  What's even better is that it's lifetime warranty!

you can never go wrong with pelican.  Btw, i got this at avenue photo, c/o wilson.

:) wala pala sa pic yung mga rechargeable batteries pati CF cards, kasya pa din :) sa ilalim nga lang :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kriskent on June 27, 2006, 09:32:08 PM
also, eto yung mga lalagyanan ng mga Armalites and Rifles sa US Military and Air force :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kieron on June 27, 2006, 09:33:01 PM
cut out ba ang foam? or you need to cut it by your own?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: schnitzerz4 on June 27, 2006, 09:35:12 PM
thanks idol kriskent

maka pag canvas na nga bukas

*toink* kieron kaka bili mo lang ng lowepro ha :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Jeric on June 27, 2006, 09:36:32 PM
When I go to the beach, I usually transport my stuff in these kasi eto yung tipong pag nagboat ka, kahit itapon mo sa dagat lulutang!  ;D

Kieron@ perforated yung foam kaya you can cut out and put them back in for different configurations. Galing nga, e. Kaya lang...mabigat! :-[
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kieron on June 27, 2006, 09:39:15 PM
Sir Ogie, iba na naman to. pag out of town shooting maganda ito gamitin para di ma basa mga gears and etc.

sir jeric, thanks! ill check out sa web kung ano to... i want one. lol. ok lang pag mabigat may assistant or taga karga naman ng gamit hehe
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kriskent on June 27, 2006, 09:40:30 PM
pick n pluck foams yan, naka dikit ng bahagya sa bawat isa but detachable. it will depend on the shape of your equipment or the space it will occupy
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kieron on June 27, 2006, 10:00:41 PM
@kriskent: mag kano score mo ng pelikano 1550?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kriskent on June 27, 2006, 10:02:28 PM
10,000 petot kay avenue photo, ay hindi, nakuha ko pala n 9,800 tawad 200 petot
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: schnitzerz4 on June 27, 2006, 10:12:12 PM
yaicks ang mahal pala :(
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kieron on June 28, 2006, 05:49:38 AM
ang mahal pala nyan. lol. kala ko mga 5k lang hehe
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Jeric on June 28, 2006, 08:23:05 AM
Mahal din naman ang mga gamit natin, sulit yung protection. Parang pag nagmomotor ka, you wouldn't entrust your head with those cheap helmets.  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kriskent on June 28, 2006, 09:18:21 AM
that's very true jeric, if your investment whether it's a 300D with kit lens or the high end ones, it deserves ultimate protection.  Remember, included on your "protection list" are CF cards which in itself contains valuable images!

:)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: gpx4 on June 28, 2006, 10:12:02 AM
bibili sana ako ng drybox sa aperture, but looking at the pelican brief, baka pwede na ito case and drybox at the same time because it's airtight. Lagyan lang ng silica gel. Any opinions on this? ???

that's very true jeric, if your investment whether it's a 300D with kit lens or the high end ones, it deserves ultimate protection.  Remember, included on your "protection list" are CF cards which in itself contains valuable images!

:)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kriskent on June 28, 2006, 10:30:13 AM
yung pelican 1550 has this airtight pressure know sa gitna, im just not sure if this feature is the same with that of the hygros...

i think pwede gpx4, looking at it you are always ready-to-go pa.

hehehe
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: quixilver on June 28, 2006, 10:36:09 AM
may hygrometer po ba yung pelican?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: gpx4 on June 28, 2006, 10:45:29 AM
wala. case lang yun. but you can put one inside. Di mo lang nga makikita unless you open it. ;D ;D
may hygrometer po ba yung pelican?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: quixilver on June 28, 2006, 10:46:06 AM
wala. case lang yun. but you can put one inside. Di mo lang nga makikita unless you open it. ;D ;D

nyarks!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: caloy samson on June 28, 2006, 12:12:09 PM
yung pelican 1550 has this airtight pressure know sa gitna, im just not sure if this feature is the same with that of the hygros...


No Kris..it's an automatic purge, a feature that comes in handy when you travel by plane and where there are atmospheric pressure changes.  Pressure inside the case will always be equal (sort of) to cabin pressure. No difficulty whatsover to open the case when airborne or in flight. Without the purge it would be very very difficult to open the case.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: CMT on June 28, 2006, 01:30:09 PM
The knob in the middle near the handle is used to equalize the pressure so it will be easier to open it. You can also opt to take out the foam and use a camera bag inside :)

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bayen11se on July 05, 2006, 05:59:00 AM
sino may alam nung link sa discussion about the effect of calcium chloride or dehumidifier  for cabinets sa electronics. ganun yata kasi ung nakalagay sa dry box ko e hindi silica gels. di ko kasi mahanap ung link e. thanks. may nabasa kasi ako na pangit daw effect nung dehumidifier sa camera.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: judell74 on July 11, 2006, 04:24:17 PM
Cabalen, PM mo si wildswan sya ang nag-post nun dun sa unang forum site pa ng pipho. Sabi nya di pwedeng gamitin yung mga may calcium cholride coz it attracts water daw.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bayen11se on July 11, 2006, 08:29:15 PM
Cabalen, PM mo si wildswan sya ang nag-post nun dun sa unang forum site pa ng pipho. Sabi nya di pwedeng gamitin yung mga may calcium cholride coz it attracts water daw.

ayt. thanks judell.  :) buti na lang inalis ko na ung dehumidifier na un. nakahanap nako ng silica gels.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: judell74 on July 12, 2006, 09:50:02 PM
No problemo pare! ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: retina on July 17, 2006, 10:41:29 PM
Hello, I was browsing thru this thread...medyo mahaba na. Pero naconfused ako about silica gel. Bakit it is harmful to put a lot of silica gel? Dahil ba it is going to dry out the lubricants out of the lenses? Why? Yong bang mga lubricants ay may water like properties? Silica gel  attract the water or humid in the air I don't think they will attract lubricants na may ibang physical properties unless you will apply heat.
Another question is about using dehumidifier...bakit harmful yon sa camera? If it attracts water, di ba OK yon? O baka may ibang reason bakit di safe gamitin yon sa Camera and Lenses?
Thanks a lot sa opinion nyo.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bayen11se on July 17, 2006, 10:53:42 PM
Hello, I was browsing thru this thread...medyo mahaba na. Pero naconfused ako about silica gel. Bakit it is harmful to put a lot of silica gel? Dahil ba it is going to dry out the lubricants out of the lenses? Why? Yong bang mga lubricants ay may water like properties? Silica gel  attract the water or humid in the air I don't think they will attract lubricants na may ibang physical properties unless you will apply heat.
Another question is about using dehumidifier...bakit harmful yon sa camera? If it attracts water, di ba OK yon? O baka may ibang reason bakit di safe gamitin yon sa Camera and Lenses?
Thanks a lot sa opinion nyo.

as far as i know harmful ung too much silica gel kasi it will dry out the lubricants... so i have read. im just taking their word for it.
tapos un namang dehumidifier, i think it contains a certain chemical that causes corrosion
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: retina on July 17, 2006, 11:13:51 PM
Thanks bayen11se...Corrosion with cameras and lenses might me a sound reason kasi my chloride yata yong dehumidifier....parang nababad sa asin yong gadgets ...nakakatakot pala yon, kalawang ang abot mo.

However, I am still looking for a rational   explanation don sa lubricants being dried out by silica gel.Well, I won't take my chances....bawas ako ng silica gel sa box. Kaso lang kailangan ko pa rin ng hygrometer.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bayen11se on July 17, 2006, 11:27:45 PM
un nga ung calcium chloride ata un that causes corossion. ganun kasi ung una kong nabili. inalis ko kagad. sayang nga e. ang mahal pa naman nun. nilagay ko na lang sa cabinet ko. ayun ngayon tubig na ung laman.
buti mura lang silica gel, 10 bucks bili ko per packet.

hindi ko din sure why mada-dry out lubricants e. antay na lang tayo baka may magpost about it. 
sa sm department store sa mens accesories, may analogue na hygrometer. just dont ask the attendants dun. hehehe! they'll just give you a blank stare. hehehe!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: [S]id on July 18, 2006, 03:22:56 AM
Nyak! sablay pa din ako... sinabi nang wag dehumidifier ang bilin yun pa din ang binili ko..  :P dapat maalis ko agad bukas yun... haaay.. kasi kanina sa Ace Hardware yun lang tinda e hindi ko naman maalala ang chemical name ng Silica Gel...haaay.. buti na lang tig 40 bucks lang yung binili ko...

at tama kayo! sa sm ako nakabili nung analog na hygrometer! wagi! sa sm southmah P175 po... sa men's accessories sa may mga clocks... kailangan ko na lang makabili ng silica gel talaga... so para po hindi maconfuse yung iba siguro ilagay na natin yung chemical name ng silica gel..  ;D

SILICA GEL - Silicon oxide - (O2Si)
                - synonyms: Amorphous silicon dioxide; Prep sep SI; Silicic Acid, Precipitated

related articles: http://www.proteachemicalscape.co.za/msds/msds98.html

DEHUMIDIFIER - Calcium Chloride - Wag nyo na daw bibilin to!!

hope this information helps  ;D

peace out!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: [S]id on July 18, 2006, 03:31:35 AM
share ko lang po yung ginawa kong drybox...  ;D

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i74/cardinalfire/pinish.jpg)

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i74/cardinalfire/dryboxb4.jpg)

 ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jorem on July 18, 2006, 03:25:31 PM
@id: air tight ba yung box mo? otherwise, moisture would just slowly creep in  ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ccp900 on July 18, 2006, 03:40:20 PM
how do you test ba if its actually air tight? i htink my box is playing tricks on me.

i bought an 8.5L na biokips sa true value pero parang sira yata tong isang to nakakainis.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: [S]id on July 18, 2006, 10:27:41 PM
yep air tight po xa.. :) may rubber stopper po yung lid nung lalagyan.. at sa wakas! napalitan ko na ang dehumidifier.. kaso nga lang taga yung nabili ko sa infomaxx na silica gel.. 50 petot isa...  :P feeling ko airtight naman xa kahit papano kasi pag bukas ko nung lid kanina para palitan yung dehumidifier parang may malamig na hangin na pumasok sa lid..  :o
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: judell74 on July 18, 2006, 11:24:54 PM
However, I am still looking for a rational   explanation don sa lubricants being dried out by silica gel.Well, I won't take my chances....bawas ako ng silica gel sa box. Kaso lang kailangan ko pa rin ng hygrometer.

Hi retina!

Di lang yung mga lubricants ang kailangan i-protect for being dried out but also those rubbers and O-rings na nasa lenses mo.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jorem on July 19, 2006, 02:26:03 AM
yep air tight po xa.. :) may rubber stopper po yung lid nung lalagyan.. at sa wakas! napalitan ko na ang dehumidifier.. kaso nga lang taga yung nabili ko sa infomaxx na silica gel.. 50 petot isa...  :P feeling ko airtight naman xa kahit papano kasi pag bukas ko nung lid kanina para palitan yung dehumidifier parang may malamig na hangin na pumasok sa lid..  :o

more or less naman kapag may rubber lining air tight na yan. if you want to really be sure, try mo lagyan ng tubig then check for leaks  ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jorem on July 19, 2006, 02:28:54 AM
how do you test ba if its actually air tight? i htink my box is playing tricks on me.

i bought an 8.5L na biokips sa true value pero parang sira yata tong isang to nakakainis.

lagyan mo tubig then check for leaks :)

yeah, medyo alanganin ang biokips (mas mahal pasya sa lock n lock). i bought an 11-liter version. ok naman yung size kaso the locking mechanism is sometimes unrealiable. you always have to double check if it's secure. kaya ni-recommend ko na lang yung lock n lock to some of my friends.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ccp900 on July 19, 2006, 04:16:56 PM
o nga, madaling mabuksan yung locking mechanism. palpak yata tong isang to.

dapat makadaan sa SM at bumili ng lock and lock. kawawa naman yung mga babies ko nalalamigan sa kahon nila  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: CRL on July 20, 2006, 10:38:20 AM
I like it to DIY....

Where do you buy a hygrometer and how much does it cost?

 ;D

true value for 400 bucks
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bones on July 20, 2006, 01:01:32 PM
or you can get a hygrometer (analogue) at FUMA, its a cigar shop. They have retail stands in many malls.

I paid less than 400 for mine, works fine. I checked it with the hygrometer in my eureka dry box and it gives the same readings.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ccp900 on July 20, 2006, 01:18:11 PM
id suggest the 700 pesos digital from infomaxx sa parksquare. malalaki yung letra bulag ka na pag di mo makita. hehehe  ;D

mas madali basahin eh, kahit malayo ka lam mo agad kung ano RH
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: judell74 on July 22, 2006, 11:37:06 PM
id suggest the 700 pesos digital from infomaxx sa parksquare. malalaki yung letra bulag ka na pag di mo makita. hehehe  ;D

mas madali basahin eh, kahit malayo ka lam mo agad kung ano RH

I agree with you dude! I have this anf malki ng mga numbers. Malayo ka pa lang, kitang-kita mo na. Hehehe! ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ESM on July 22, 2006, 11:48:05 PM
i met someone in our office who is into photography too and asked him how he protects his gear ... his technique is to put it in an air tight container and leave under where it is not dark (hindi naman yata direct sunlight :D.  that way, fungus will not grow...  so he does not use any silica gel for his box.    any comments about this...

i was able to get silica gels that turn red if it is already "soaked".  can I use that as an indicator vs getting an RH meter? 
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kamote on July 25, 2006, 04:14:39 PM
guys are you willing to sacrifice your precious lenses and camera on diy dry boxes? (no offense ment sa mga meron ng diy dry box) the cheapest dry box I saw is in apperture which cost 5k. katumbas lang ng price ng isang 50mm 1.8 na lens at mas mahal pa ang battery grip dito. so why take your chances?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Dave_D on July 25, 2006, 04:19:31 PM
Yes if you do it right. The hygrometer that you put in the container is suppossed to tell you if your gear is safe. That's why all the DIY solutions here NEED to have a hygrometer so your not guessing if your gear is safe.

I also have a drycab, but in the future if I run out of space, I would rather build a DIY one for glass I use least and make room in the drycab for lenses that get the most use.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kamote on July 25, 2006, 10:41:05 PM
mga sirs question lang po. for 1 whole day naka set ang reading ng hygrometer ng dry box ko sa 40% RH in a room na naka aircon. nung kinuha ko ang cam ko at lens from the dry box malamig yung body nung lens. question ko po ay talaga bang malamig yun since naka aircon ang room ko or dapat hindi kasi nakalagay sa dry box ko ito? hindi po pa ang function ng dry box ay magmaintain ng tamang humidty? pasensya na tanong ko at medyo ignorante ang lolo nyo. thanks!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: RUS 88 on July 25, 2006, 11:10:00 PM
i recently made my first DIY drybox.

bought a 9 Liter Lock n Lock. A hyrometer from Infomaxx and 3 packs of Silica Gel. I tested the drybox in my room overnight with the aircondition turned on and it reads 64% - 68%. The box is properly sealed naman. Then i assumed that i lack silica gel that's why i purchased a box from true value and immediately placed 10 packs along with the current 3 large packs inside the box but right now, it still reads thesame.

I notice that the RH reading tends to lower everytime i open the box and expose it for a few minutes. the lowest reading i got so far was a 55% RH. what could be wrong here kaya? thanks guys.

hope you guys can help. thanks
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: sands on July 26, 2006, 12:06:06 AM
i recently made my first DIY drybox.

bought a 9 Liter Lock n Lock. A hyrometer from Infomaxx and 3 packs of Silica Gel. I tested the drybox in my room overnight with the aircondition turned on and it reads 64% - 68%. The box is properly sealed naman. Then i assumed that i lack silica gel that's why i purchased a box from true value and immediately placed 10 packs along with the current 3 large packs inside the box but right now, it still reads thesame.

I notice that the RH reading tends to lower everytime i open the box and expose it for a few minutes. the lowest reading i got so far was a 55% RH. what could be wrong here kaya? thanks guys.

hope you guys can help. thanks

hi, I suppose the room has lower humidity due to the aircon running, as compared with the drybox.. it looks to me that you may need to refresh your silica gels as they must have been saturated already (even though they came out new from the shelves).. i also have those silica gels in small blue packs bought from True Value but I just don't find them easy to use.. i think you have to expose them under the sun to refresh them.. as opposed to the one I bought from True Value as well, the brand is "water glass" and they're silica gels contained in a cloth pouch (with an indicator) and you just need to heat it up in the microwave oven for 3-5 mins to refresh them.  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bones on July 26, 2006, 12:41:53 AM
mga sirs question lang po. for 1 whole day naka set ang reading ng hygrometer ng dry box ko sa 40% RH in a room na naka aircon. nung kinuha ko ang cam ko at lens from the dry box malamig yung body nung lens. question ko po ay talaga bang malamig yun since naka aircon ang room ko or dapat hindi kasi nakalagay sa dry box ko ito? hindi po pa ang function ng dry box ay magmaintain ng tamang humidty? pasensya na tanong ko at medyo ignorante ang lolo nyo. thanks!

dont worry its normal. The dry box will keep the moisture in the air in comfortable levels for your equipment, but it will not change the temperature of the air. The only problem I can see with this is when you try to use your lens in its cold state in a hot humid environment. Your lens will fog up. It is still advisable to wait for your lens to come close to the outside temperature before you use it to avoid the fogging of your lens
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kamote on July 26, 2006, 01:08:07 AM
dont worry its normal. The dry box will keep the moisture in the air in comfortable levels for your equipment, but it will not change the temperature of the air. The only problem I can see with this is when you try to use your lens in its cold state in a hot humid environment. Your lens will fog up. It is still advisable to wait for your lens to come close to the outside temperature before you use it to avoid the fogging of your lens

ok thanks for the input! now i don't have to worry!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: RUS 88 on July 26, 2006, 08:18:28 PM
hi, I suppose the room has lower humidity due to the aircon running, as compared with the drybox.. it looks to me that you may need to refresh your silica gels as they must have been saturated already (even though they came out new from the shelves).. i also have those silica gels in small blue packs bought from True Value but I just don't find them easy to use.. i think you have to expose them under the sun to refresh them.. as opposed to the one I bought from True Value as well, the brand is "water glass" and they're silica gels contained in a cloth pouch (with an indicator) and you just need to heat it up in the microwave oven for 3-5 mins to refresh them.  ;D

thanks for the reply, sir. Today, i bought an extra analog hygrometer at SM just to check if my Digital Hygro from Infomaxx is properly working. Checking right about now, it seems that both have thesame reading. I recharged the silica gel as you recommended and i'm currently getting a reading of 54% and it is continuously going down very slowly.

Is it possible if i open a few packs of silica and the gels in one small container without cover then place it inside the drybox? wala bang implication yun? mas madali kasi i recharge sa oven kapag ganun. Hindi yata kasi oven friendly yung nabili kong mga silica gel kasi plastic yung packaging. thanks
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: sands on July 26, 2006, 09:28:22 PM
thanks for the reply, sir. Today, i bought an extra analog hygrometer at SM just to check if my Digital Hygro from Infomaxx is properly working. Checking right about now, it seems that both have thesame reading. I recharged the silica gel as you recommended and i'm currently getting a reading of 54% and it is continuously going down very slowly.

Is it possible if i open a few packs of silica and the gels in one small container without cover then place it inside the drybox? wala bang implication yun? mas madali kasi i recharge sa oven kapag ganun. Hindi yata kasi oven friendly yung nabili kong mga silica gel kasi plastic yung packaging. thanks


I don't see any problem with putting the silica beads in one container to be placed inside the drybox since they're supposed to be chemically harmless.  But you may want to check this link about refreshing silica beads in the microwave oven.  ;)

http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=4948.0 (http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=4948.0)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bastified on July 28, 2006, 01:44:06 PM
any price update about the eureka drybox? (S, M, L)
im considering of getting one.  ::)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: equus on July 28, 2006, 01:52:56 PM
any price update about the eureka drybox? (S, M, L)
im considering of getting one.  ::)

I think these are the new prices:

Small - 5.5k
Medium - 10k
Large - 14.5k

These are the original prices, might still give a discount.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bayen11se on July 28, 2006, 11:23:43 PM
I think these are the new prices:

Small - 5.5k
Medium - 10k
Large - 14.5k

These are the original prices, might still give a discount.


these are prices from aperture trading i pressume?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: masterjecht on July 30, 2006, 10:07:09 AM
found some silica gels in Handyman Farmers Cubao...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: equus on July 30, 2006, 09:56:14 PM
these are prices from aperture trading i pressume?

Yes, they increased prices recently.  :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: SR_Eyes on July 31, 2006, 12:47:31 PM
guys,

how often do you recharge your silica gel?  tanong lang po, kasi mine rh% is going up in the 2nd week after recharging. ano sa case nyo?

thanks,
sr
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: zeusm on July 31, 2006, 10:21:40 PM
Sorry if I these have been answered in previous posts but I just want to know:

1. What's the best (read: most effective and user-friendly) brand of silica gel to buy and where can I get them?

2. Would you know when to recharge and to discard them? (do they ever get discarded that you have to buy a new set/pack?)

3. How many packs should I get?

4. How would you know if your DSLR (mine's 350D) already has fungus or mold?

I appreciate the patience of those people who will take time to help me with this. I just realized that I don't even have a silica pack to protect my gear.

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: sands on July 31, 2006, 10:27:49 PM
how often do you recharge your silica gel?  tanong lang po, kasi mine rh% is going up in the 2nd week after recharging. ano sa case nyo?

in my case, depends on the hygrometer reading.. usually when it goes beyond 60%.. depends also on how often you open the drybox.. but in cases where a good dry box (100% airtight) is not being opened for long periods, I think it can & should sustain a specific level of RH. :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: SR_Eyes on August 01, 2006, 03:41:08 PM
See my answers in blue font below:

Cheers,
SR

Sorry if I these have been answered in previous posts but I just want to know:

1. What's the best (read: most effective and user-friendly) brand of silica gel to buy and where can I get them?
Ans: So far rustry guard is best for me. Available at handy man.  

2. Would you know when to recharge and to discard them? (do they ever get discarded that you have to buy a new set/pack?)
Ans: Try to recharge first, then after recharging if RH% still so high (60% above), I think your silica gel should be discarded.   

3. How many packs should I get?
Ans: In my case 1 DSLR body, 3 lenses and 1 p&s in a box, I need to put 4 rusty guard packs to maintain the humidity within 40%-60% range.  

4. How would you know if your DSLR (mine's 350D) already has fungus or mold?
Ans: Haven't experienced this yet.  

I appreciate the patience of those people who will take time to help me with this. I just realized that I don't even have a silica pack to protect my gear.

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Boo on October 03, 2006, 10:20:45 PM
i use this one...

(http://static.flickr.com/86/231807537_1a8cd2b9e9.jpg?v=0)

2-in-1 ... WONDERFUL bag & drybox combo ;)

Boo
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jackl on October 03, 2006, 10:33:33 PM
This is the one they sell at Greenhills V mall right?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Boo on October 03, 2006, 10:35:49 PM
This is the one they sell at Greenhills V mall right?

yup, pero mas cheaper sa Hidalgo (AVENUE) ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: levisevilla on October 04, 2006, 11:49:32 PM
How do you use your Drybox? Everytime your at home you put all your gears inside? What if you bring your gears everyday?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jayjay on October 05, 2006, 12:35:23 AM
Boo, how heavy is that bag?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jackl on October 05, 2006, 04:43:39 AM
Quote
How do you use your Drybox? Everytime your at home you put all your gears inside? What if you bring your gears everyday?

I use my cam split for hobby and work so it does enjoy a relatively low amount of use, so if I'm not outside with my camera bag then my camera and lenses are in the dry box almost ritualistically. If you tend to carry your gear everyday you may want to invest in a portable airtight container such as the one posted by Boo. These cases can take the rigor of everyday commute while preventing the jars and hits from transferring to you equipment. If you have the dough then pelican is the way to go, specially if your travel involves a lot of boat rides you may want to consider an airtight pelican case. These type of cases are bouyant may even save your life God-forbid your ride capsizes. The one posed by Boo is made by wonderful, they are cheaper than pelican cases but have some problems with the purge valve. A sound investment still just don't forget the silica gel.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: madzieph on October 05, 2006, 05:20:25 AM
FYI: For those looking for a hygrometer...

I was at Hidalgo yesterday and passed by SM Quiapo to cool off. At the ground floor there's a men's accessories section. They sell the analog hygro-clock-temp combo thing for 120. Still saw about 5-10 units there.

Comment lang. The hygrometer is not as responsive as the hygro on the Eureka dry-box. The reading was kinda slow to change as it took almost an hour to change after putting inside the dry-box. After 12 hours, there's a difference of 6 % between the hygros. Eureka reads at 40%, the one I got from SM reads 46% RH. 
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Boo on October 05, 2006, 09:22:12 AM
Boo, how heavy is that bag?

The bag/drybox combo is quite heavy, lalo na pag puno ng gears...you need a strong shoulder ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: madzieph on October 05, 2006, 10:25:51 AM
i use this one...

([url]http://static.flickr.com/86/231807537_1a8cd2b9e9.jpg?v=0[/url])

2-in-1 ... WONDERFUL bag & drybox combo ;)

Boo


How much gear can you put in this one, Boo?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: zerone on October 05, 2006, 10:53:50 AM
I need that for travelling. Where can we score one?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jackl on October 05, 2006, 12:51:15 PM
avenue sells these as well as a shop in greenhills (cent remember the name)

better head out there today you may even score it at a low price!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: zerone on October 05, 2006, 01:25:41 PM
hey thanks man :) though I can't make it there this week (im cebu-based) but I'll definitely get one the next time I stop by Manila for travel.  I heard Brit colony countries now require cameras to be checked in! :o
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jackl on October 05, 2006, 10:14:09 PM
not only only brit colonies but us and its protectorates as well. If you travel a lot specially to the US, Canada or the UK (and former colonies) you may want to get those airtight pelican cases and a TSA approved lock. They have a tendency to bolt-cut your lock if they scan you case and doubt its contents.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: levisevilla on October 06, 2006, 12:10:40 AM
I use my cam split for hobby and work so it does enjoy a relatively low amount of use, so if I'm not outside with my camera bag then my camera and lenses are in the dry box almost ritualistically. If you tend to carry your gear everyday you may want to invest in a portable airtight container such as the one posted by Boo. These cases can take the rigor of everyday commute while preventing the jars and hits from transferring to you equipment. If you have the dough then pelican is the way to go, specially if your travel involves a lot of boat rides you may want to consider an airtight pelican case. These type of cases are bouyant may even save your life God-forbid your ride capsizes. The one posed by Boo is made by wonderful, they are cheaper than pelican cases but have some problems with the purge valve. A sound investment still just don't forget the silica gel.

Thanks, so it must be a habit to put the camera and lenses inside the drybox whenever you are not using it? I put all my gears inside my Lowepro bag with silica gels. I usually bring it everyday and leave it inside my car. Im into field work so most of the time the car is under the sun and I dont think I can always carry it with me whenever I go down. I saw the safety case in greenhills but I havent decided what to get. I made a DIY (lock and Lock) box temporarily for the kit lens which I dont use but Im confused if I have to drybox all my gears everynight or even inside the car. It will make my bag useless.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jackl on October 06, 2006, 02:20:43 AM
Yup became a habit over time even with my old film cam. I do hope you don't leave the bag inside the passenger cabin specially when the car is under the sun, the heat generally trapped inside a car left out on a sunny day can damage the camera (plus they tend to catch the attention of would be thieves who peer into car windows to see valuable stuff inside. The drawback on the other hand to leaving it in the trunk is that this is the area of a vehicle that tends to be very humid (specially during the evenings) and despite the silica gel there exists the possibility of fungal growth (yup that is where the musty smell of a car trunk comes from)

I have a DIY box and am in the process of acquiring a pelican 1500 case but I still haven't convinced myself to let go of my Lowepro because I still need an easy to carry bag especially during commutes. After all a huge airtight case such as the pelican or the ones made by wonderful does attract a lot attention (parang may dalang bomba hehehehe!). You could keep the bag just leave a big bag of silica gel in it so it will not attract mold on the inside (during really sunny days I hang my bags outside even if they are not wet or anything just to kill the bacteria and fungal growth that tend to appear while inside the cabinet. By the way you may want to line your cabinet (not inside your DIY Drybox) with those dehumidifiers (Calcium Chloride) to absorb some of the moisture.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Boo on October 06, 2006, 12:13:46 PM
How much gear can you put in this one, Boo?

I have a 30D w/ battery grip, kits lens, 24-70mm, 70-200mm, flash plus all other cam accesories on the side pockets...mabigat lang nga ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Boo on October 06, 2006, 12:15:05 PM
btw, also available at Watsons & the store right accross (...forgot the name) @ 4k-4.5k
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: zerone on October 09, 2006, 11:31:48 AM
not only only brit colonies but us and its protectorates as well. If you travel a lot specially to the US, Canada or the UK (and former colonies) you may want to get those airtight pelican cases and a TSA approved lock. They have a tendency to bolt-cut your lock if they scan you case and doubt its contents.

Even the US now too? I thought they had recently turned down the security a bit.  I was in the US last spring and took a couple of flights but didn't have to check in my photo gear.  Is this a recent development? 

Anyway, about the topic yeah, I'm looking to buy one of those pelican things and a tough lock, probably one of those Finnish locks (let's see them try to cut those locks).  heh.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jackl on October 09, 2006, 02:56:01 PM
Yup my high school barkada had was asked to check in his camera gear... fairly recent specially near the time of the anniversary of september 11.

Just get a TSA approved lock and they wont bug you or worse bolt cut them you just have to open the case...test fire the camera...close the case and lock it in front of the officer and check it in...crud!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: levisevilla on October 12, 2006, 01:42:54 AM
Yup became a habit over time even with my old film cam. I do hope you don't leave the bag inside the passenger cabin specially when the car is under the sun, the heat generally trapped inside a car left out on a sunny day can damage the camera (plus they tend to catch the attention of would be thieves who peer into car windows to see valuable stuff inside. The drawback on the other hand to leaving it in the trunk is that this is the area of a vehicle that tends to be very humid (specially during the evenings) and despite the silica gel there exists the possibility of fungal growth (yup that is where the musty smell of a car trunk comes from)

I have a DIY box and am in the process of acquiring a pelican 1500 case but I still haven't convinced myself to let go of my Lowepro because I still need an easy to carry bag especially during commutes. After all a huge airtight case such as the pelican or the ones made by wonderful does attract a lot attention (parang may dalang bomba hehehehe!). You could keep the bag just leave a big bag of silica gel in it so it will not attract mold on the inside (during really sunny days I hang my bags outside even if they are not wet or anything just to kill the bacteria and fungal growth that tend to appear while inside the cabinet. By the way you may want to line your cabinet (not inside your DIY Drybox) with those dehumidifiers (Calcium Chloride) to absorb some of the moisture.

Wont the heat of the car prevent the molds?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jackl on October 13, 2006, 01:31:14 AM
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Wont the heat of the car prevent the molds?

not all the time...remember that relative humidity simply put indicates the amount of moisture the air could take up... the basic rule is that the hotter the air the more water vapor it could hold. In an air-tight space (such as a drybox) it is possible to bring down the amount of water vapor because the volume of air inside the space is constant. In an open environment however, the amount of moisture in the air will always be determined by the nearest water source (as water eveaporates from these sources) and in a country such as ours that water source tends to be in abundance. While in the middle of the day you car's interior would be VERY hot and very dry the RH% shifts significantly during the rest of day. Thus creating a suitable environment for mold growth.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: levisevilla on October 13, 2006, 02:54:19 AM
OK thanks. I just bought the electronic moisture absorbent from Twincell at VMall. Placed it inside my lock and lock DIY box with some of my lens. I started limiting the number of lens Im bringing. I also placed inside my Handycam and PS Canon. Medyo natakot na ako. I also placed the Hygrometer. My usual reading inside my bag is 60 but inside the drybox its 30. Twincell sells dryboxes.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: DvL on October 13, 2006, 09:23:24 AM
OK thanks. I just bought the electronic moisture absorbent from Twincell at VMall. Placed it inside my lock and lock DIY box with some of my lens. I started limiting the number of lens Im bringing. I also placed inside my Handycam and PS Canon. Medyo natakot na ako. I also placed the Hygrometer. My usual reading inside my bag is 60 but inside the drybox its 30. Twincell sells dryboxes.

Diba parang sobrang baba ng 30? Kasi dapat around 40-45.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jackl on October 13, 2006, 02:21:06 PM
good to hear levi...just wanted to share a bit from my experience last week, left my ratty old P&S digital inside a friend's car parked outside megamall, lo and behold pagbalik ko to check nag sisimula na mag discolor ang LCD though after a few hours the color went back to normal good thing damage was not permanent...

30-40 is still well within tolerance for the lens lubricants...below 30 however is another story. 30 is not too dry specially if you tend to open your drybox often.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: levisevilla on October 13, 2006, 08:51:40 PM
I just checked it now its 35 so its within the good level.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jackl on October 13, 2006, 10:41:07 PM
nakakaparanoid no levi? ako tuwin bubuksan ko yun closet ko di ko maisasara ng hindi tinitingnan yung RH read out hehehe but it is always worth the hassle.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jsreque on October 18, 2006, 09:48:59 AM
(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/jsreque/drybox.jpg)Update lang on this...

Here's a pic of my DIY dry box.

1. 10L Lock 'n lock bought at SM Megamall - P580
2. Hygrometer (with clock) from SM Megamall Men's Accessories, on sale - P90 (Pili lang kayo ng gumagana)
3. Silica gel (large) from Mayer, Quiapo - P60 (nag taas daw price, P50 lang before)

Total = P730

Pwede na!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: stillfrog on October 18, 2006, 09:53:05 AM
sirs, i know its funny but pwede ba ziplock na lang with a handfull of dessicants? Wala kasi drybox dito sa cebu and i tried looking for those battery/electronic dehumidifier pero wala eh. Napapraning na po ako kasi i seldom use my cam. thanks.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: erworm on October 18, 2006, 03:16:55 PM
Is it just me or are silica gels getting hard to come by? I haven't been to quiapo for sometime now, pero parang ang hirap makahanap ng silica gel sa hardware stores (TrueValue, Handyman, Ace, etc)... I've tried different branches and wala ako mabili :(... even the electronic rechargable ones... hay... please do post here if you find in the hardware stores :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: madzieph on October 18, 2006, 04:02:41 PM
Is it just me or are silica gels getting hard to come by? I haven't been to quiapo for sometime now, pero parang ang hirap makahanap ng silica gel sa hardware stores (TrueValue, Handyman, Ace, etc)... I've tried different branches and wala ako mabili :(... even the electronic rechargable ones... hay... please do post here if you find in the hardware stores :)

dami atang naging paranoid sa fungus eh... just passed by True Value Park Square... no stock of the rechargeable dessicants... meron rechargeable pero packaged with dry box nila na may hygrometer for 2,700+ less 20%.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Solidus on October 18, 2006, 10:33:23 PM
just new here, and i want to share mine...

bought a mini-ref-sized electric drybox (Focus Optic) from Infomax Makati @ P10k! yes, i know. very expensive (di ba Z? he he). eh tamad na kasi ako pumunta pa ng Quiapo or Aperture, where they're selling one for as low as P5k only (just don't know the size). has a metal tray so 2 levels, maximizing space availability. i put in my 2 DSLRs, PowerShot G6 digicam, Sony VX2100 and Pana GS200 camcorders, and all of their accessories (incl. batteries and memory cards!). would seem na mae-exhaust yung drybox w/ all that stuffed in, but it's been working fine for more than 2 months now. yes, i always take a look at its reading. i'm keeping it at 40-50 RH. not too hot, not too cold kumbaga.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jann on October 18, 2006, 11:06:24 PM
got this SiO2 bag from Handyman medyo maykalakihan lang nga 150g. the blue droplets prints on the bag turns to pink daw when its fully moist. meron din ako nakita dun 3x2inch size packets pero alang nakalagay kung ano chemical content kaya hindi ko binili. P10 lang sana isang pack nun. kaso bakay maya calcium chloride un.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/jann321/misc/SiO2.jpg)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jackl on October 18, 2006, 11:20:39 PM
Thank God I bought about six packs of the large gels from quiapo nagtaas na nga!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: stillfrog on October 19, 2006, 05:28:16 PM
mga sirs, hindi ba kayo interested maging reseller para sa mga taga probinsya? bibili sana ako.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jackl on October 21, 2006, 09:26:01 AM
Eto guys share ko pa. Learned this technique from an old friend way back in film. When transporting your camera for long distances over bad weather (backpacking/hiking/biking) and you do not plan to take your camera out that much until you reach your destination, you could wrap it in CLING WRAP (food wrapper) and a small dessicant that way in the event of a downpour your camera would have some simple water proofing.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: amboy on October 28, 2006, 12:02:43 PM
hi guys... am new here...  :)

anyway... thanks to this thread i made myself a DIY drybox using a 9L Lock and Lock which i bought from SM here in baguio. Good thing i saw this clock with temp/hygrometer at the SM appliance center for only P199! was also able to find a liquid water silica gel at Handyman here in baguio also. with one bag of the liquid water and the drybox empty, humidity would quickly go down to 30 from 80. with my gears on the drybox it would stablize at 35.  :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Agent J on October 31, 2006, 08:44:20 PM
something i learned yesterday while looking for silica packs..

DIY silica pack: toasted rice grains!  ;)

try it!

and today, those white kitty litter that's made of silica..
ang dami!! 2 year supply siguro yun hehe!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pubert on November 02, 2006, 08:22:46 AM
something i learned yesterday while looking for silica packs..

and today, those white kitty litter that's made of silica..
ang dami!! 2 year supply siguro yun hehe!

sir, i'm not 100% sure about this pero iba yata yung silica lang sa silica gel... i think yung silica na pwede gamitin sa kitty litter is silica sand (same material na tinutunaw para gumawa ng glass -tsaka lens(?)   ??? ) hindi yata na nag aabsorb ng moisture yun unlike silica gel.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jackl on November 02, 2006, 02:45:59 PM
yup they are very different in composition... btw the kitty litter version might spell havoc on your sensor considering they are very fine particles. as for the toasted rice grains version, the moisture absorbency heated rice grains are very minimal (it would work though you may need to replace it often), kain nyo na lang masarap pa... =)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: reloader on November 02, 2006, 09:12:03 PM
([url]http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/jsreque/drybox.jpg[/url])Update lang on this...

Here's a pic of my DIY dry box.

1. 10L Lock 'n lock bought at SM Megamall - P580
2. Hygrometer (with clock) from SM Megamall Men's Accessories, on sale - P90 (Pili lang kayo ng gumagana)
3. Silica gel (large) from Mayer, Quiapo - P60 (nag taas daw price, P50 lang before)

Total = P730

Pwede na!


how were you able to install the hygrometer to the box?  mighty bond (cyanoacrylate) or a hot glue gun?  ang linis ng trabaho kasi!   tnx
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jsreque on November 03, 2006, 06:26:30 AM
Haha... manipis na double adhesive lang po yun. If you look at the center of the hygro closely, meron kang makikitang parang malabong circle, yun po yung tape.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: azool on November 03, 2006, 08:13:52 AM
Haha... manipis na double adhesive lang po yun. If you look at the center of the hygro closely, meron kang makikitang parang malabong circle, yun po yung tape.
anong brand po nung double adhesive na gamit po nyo?  tsaka saan nyo po nabili?  ok yung pagkaka-DIY nito, linis tingnan nung pagkakakabit.

:)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jsreque on November 03, 2006, 08:31:11 AM
If I can remember it right, Polar Bear yata yung brand ng tape. Sa Ace hardware ko nabili. Pero kahit anong manipis na double adhesive pwede naman. Sa National Bookstore marami rin (ibang brand).

Dalawang klase kasi yan eh, yung isa me foam. Mas maganda yung manipis kasi medyo translucent pa sya.

Ang mahirap gawin dyan eh yung i-cut sya ng pabilog. Wala kasi akong makitang double adhesive na round na translucent eh, kaya ako na lang ang nag cut (ni-cutter ko lang po yan, dapat di kayo pasmado  :D).
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Agent J on November 04, 2006, 04:46:49 AM
sir, i'm not 100% sure about this pero iba yata yung silica lang sa silica gel... i think yung silica na pwede gamitin sa kitty litter is silica sand (same material na tinutunaw para gumawa ng glass -tsaka lens(?)   ??? ) hindi yata na nag aabsorb ng moisture yun unlike silica gel.


iba yng ingredient ng kitty litter 'sand' that you are talking about. the most common is the clumping kind bec it has the same ingredient as cement.  :)

the kitty litter that's made of colloidal silica is also used in making silica 'gel'.  mas malaki nga yng size nung individual silica sa kitty litter kesa sa 'gel' eh.
here's an article that i googled. http://www.vsep.com/pdf/ColloidalSilica.pdf   ::)



Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Agent J on November 04, 2006, 04:53:22 AM
yup they are very different in composition... btw the kitty litter version might spell havoc on your sensor considering they are very fine particles. as for the toasted rice grains version, the moisture absorbency heated rice grains are very minimal (it would work though you may need to replace it often), kain nyo na lang masarap pa... =)

i learned about the rice grains through a photographer living in HK. since the climate in HK is also humid because it's close to the sea, i guess they found out that it really works. sabi nya it can be useful up to 2 months. and it's cheap. pwede mo pa i-reheat also.

so far, my 10L plastic container with the rice grains works. the lowest it got was 36% and has never gone past 60% even after putting in my camera and closing it after. in a humid day like today because of a storm, it's reading is 56%. i will continue to monitor it for a few more days. and see how long it will last.  ;D

you can do your own observation too..  ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: anton572 on November 04, 2006, 08:12:50 AM
Ask ko lng po, not sure kung nasagot na ito, haba na ksi thread eh. Sa Dry box po ba na DIY pwede ilagay yun buong camera bag with the body and lenses inside the bag? ....might be a "duh" question, just wanna be sure ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: madzieph on November 04, 2006, 09:03:34 AM
Ask ko lng po, not sure kung nasagot na ito, haba na ksi thread eh. Sa Dry box po ba na DIY pwede ilagay yun buong camera bag with the body and lenses inside the bag? ....might be a "duh" question, just wanna be sure ;D

If your bag will fit your dry box, why not? Although, if your camera bag is not breathable (moisture proof - water proof) the accumulated moisture inside the bag may not be absorbed by the silica gel or will take more time to be absorbed thus making losing the benefit of using the dry box. The only benefit would be is that no additional humidity will be accumulated.

Just my 2 centavos...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: reloader on November 04, 2006, 09:47:55 AM
last week, is bought this awesome 21 liter lock n lock.  kinda pricey for a DIY dry box at P 1,200 at SM makati but it's heaven sent for my other optical equipment (binoculars and spotting scope).  check it out.

now, i can't help but wonder if there is a pipho member who works for lock n lock and took special interest in our fungus problems.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: anton572 on November 04, 2006, 06:51:38 PM
If your bag will fit your dry box, why not? Although, if your camera bag is not breathable (moisture proof - water proof) the accumulated moisture inside the bag may not be absorbed by the silica gel or will take more time to be absorbed thus making losing the benefit of using the dry box. The only benefit would be is that no additional humidity will be accumulated.

Just my 2 centavos...

thanks sir. my bag isn't that big anyway, since m just starting out. but, just to be sure, ill just leave the bag out.

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: HartSord on November 05, 2006, 10:01:58 PM
thanks sir. my bag isn't that big anyway, since m just starting out. but, just to be sure, ill just leave the bag out.

I would suggest you leave the bag out, because the bag will just put a bigger humidity load on the drybox, plus the bag itself will have to be dried out first before its contents are dried out.

I even take my optech strap off before I put my cam in the box (quick-connects, btw).
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: himurashinta on November 09, 2006, 05:26:33 PM
my DIY Dry Box... hindi aabot ng 1K :D

Lock & Lock (w/ top handle), Analog Hygro w/ Temp (from SM Dept), Silica Gel and a glue gun... viola!!!

([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v660/jondextan/drybox.jpg[/url])


parang ganito yung dry box ko except for the olympus dslr. nikonian po ako  ;D

para saan po yung glue gun??  ???
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: quixilver on November 09, 2006, 05:31:09 PM
parang ganito yung dry box ko except for the olympus dslr. nikonian po ako  ;D

para saan po yung glue gun??  ???


he glued his hygrometer to the drybox
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: himurashinta on November 09, 2006, 06:30:04 PM
he glued his hygrometer to the drybox

hehe... ang slow ko ata today  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: stillfrog on November 12, 2006, 06:29:15 PM
The glue gun is better than the mightybond. ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: HartSord on November 12, 2006, 06:40:14 PM
The glue gun is better than the mightybond. ;D

Yup, no fumes to make fingerprints appear on your lenses (ala CSI  ;) )
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: louie_gudboy on November 14, 2006, 12:05:02 PM
I recently got a Eureka Auto Drybox. I've read that the levels should be maintained at around 40-45. I can't seem to do that, it usually goes way below 40. What should I do? Thanks in advance!  :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: quixilver on November 14, 2006, 12:08:03 PM
i got the VM drybox, i can't get it to go lower that 55. it always in between 55-60. pagod na ko magpump ng air tsaka tumatama yung pump sa lid kaya mag gagasgas. safe pa naman basta lower than 60 right?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: louie_gudboy on November 14, 2006, 12:41:26 PM
I'm not really sure what the exact reading should be. But I know there's a level that one shouldn't go under and another that one shouldn't go over.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: beethoven on November 14, 2006, 05:38:29 PM
I recently got a Eureka Auto Drybox. I've read that the levels should be maintained at around 40-45. I can't seem to do that, it usually goes way below 40. What should I do? Thanks in advance!  :)

it seems you're always on "High" power?  you could bring the humidity control dial down to midway "H" and "M," or even lower ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ice_man on November 16, 2006, 03:01:59 AM
Louie, have you tried bringing it down to Low? try mo pare. text me what happens..k? I'm always at low and the it always falls between 40 to 50... goodluck dude  ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jann on November 16, 2006, 09:04:19 AM
who has the hygrometer from infomaxx? the one with the big LCD. is there a way to recalibrate it? the hygro in my eureka reads 40% while it reads 24% :(
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: gkungfoo on November 16, 2006, 09:48:31 AM
I recently got a Eureka Auto Drybox. I've read that the levels should be maintained at around 40-45. I can't seem to do that, it usually goes way below 40. What should I do? Thanks in advance!  :)

When I first setup my Eureka Auto Drybox, it was empty, set it to "H", then I left it alone overnight. The following day, I loaded it up with my gear. During the course of the day, the reading went from 65 to 50 to 60. I then put the setting to "M". This time, the readings dropped to 45-30 before stabilizing at 40-45. So now, the reading just plays within the 40-45% RH.

It just takes a couple of days. Just make sure when you adjust the settings, give it a considerable amount of time for it to stabilize. If its too low, adjust the settings between L and M. Or open the drybox to let humid air in. Basta timpla-timpla lang yan, trial and error until you find the optimal setting. ;)

HTH!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pubert on November 16, 2006, 09:57:30 AM
I recently got a Eureka Auto Drybox. I've read that the levels should be maintained at around 40-45. I can't seem to do that, it usually goes way below 40. What should I do? Thanks in advance!  :)

i dont think the electric dehumidifier inside the eureka drybox is capable of increasing humidity if the level is too low. Designed lang yata yun to remove water/moisture so pwede lang nito ibaba yung humidity. Possible reasons kung bakit sobrang baba ng humidity might be:

-mababa talaga humidity dun sa room where the dry box is kept (usually kapag airconditiond yung room bumababa ang humidity) so, if yung humidity nung room below 40, there is no way for the dehumidifier to raise it back to a higer level even if you set the switch to "H";

-pwede ding you placed too much silica gel inside the dry box.

-another possibility may be sira yung control nung dessicator unit: did you notice kung namamatay yung indicator lamp (not sure kung may indicator lamp yung eureka -ibang brand ksi yung reference ko) pag mababa na yung humidity? possible din kasi na na stuck yung humidity regulator kaya continuos lang siyang nagtatangal ng moisture kahit sobrang baba na ng humidity. It's supposed to turn on automatically only as needed (pag tumaas na humidity to a certain level)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: localhost on November 19, 2006, 09:06:04 AM
Tanong lang... di ko alam kung natanong na rin before sa thread na eto... (ang haba na kasi)

Applicable din ba or kailangan din bang ilagay ang mga point and shoot cameras (like my S3 IS) and Video camera sa dry boxes? or para lang sa mga DSLR cameras eto?... yung mga nakalagay na Silica Gel sa kahon ng sapatos... pwede bang i-reuse ang mga yun?... tsaka gaano katagal ang buhay ng mga yun?...

thanks... whilst waiting for some replies I will try to read back the post from day 1. hehehhe
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: himurashinta on November 19, 2006, 10:42:55 AM
Applicable din ba or kailangan din bang ilagay ang mga point and shoot cameras (like my S3 IS) and Video camera sa dry boxes? or para lang sa mga DSLR cameras eto?...

this process is applicable to all your stuff na pwede amagin in the long run. i have an s2 is and i always keep it in my diy dry box now that i dont frequently use it.

yung mga nakalagay na Silica Gel sa kahon ng sapatos... pwede bang i-reuse ang mga yun?... tsaka gaano katagal ang buhay ng mga yun?...

yes you could but you have to recharge them by microwaving or subjecting to heat... lifespan is not in question since they can be recharged.. also get yourself a hygrometer.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: reyriv on November 21, 2006, 11:52:02 PM
Quote
yes you could but you have to recharge them by microwaving or subjecting to heat... lifespan is not in question since they can be recharged.. also get yourself a hygrometer.

Kung maliliit na package ng silica gel, how long i-recharge sa microwave?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: louie_gudboy on November 22, 2006, 12:01:45 AM
@Sonny, Z, Gkungfoo, Mike:

Thanks sa mga reply ninyo!  :) Sorry now lang ako naka-reply back sa mga tips na binigay ninyo. Nakalimutan ko na kasi yung post ko before. Hahaha! Will try each one and see which will work for me. Anyway, thanks a lot for all your help!  :)

Louie
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: MASP on November 22, 2006, 11:36:40 AM
yup, even for leather bags, samsonite will suggest you put it in a box with silica gel to avoid fungus. so anything you have that may get fungus including point and shoot cameras should be in dry boxes or containers with silica gel.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: qop on November 22, 2006, 06:55:50 PM
mga sir, dummy question po pero hindi ko kasi alam itsura ng silica gel at hygrometer na nabibili sa labas. gusto ko po sana gumawa rin ng dry box ko.  :-[

pwede po ba post some picture ulit?

yung ibang picture po kasi dito wala ng link. blangko na po.  :-\
at kahit anong plastic container po ba pwede?

salamat po.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: HartSord on November 22, 2006, 09:10:02 PM
pwede po ba post some picture ulit?


posting my hygro again, P300 from Blade, accurate against our plant lab's electric drybox.

(http://www.photo.net.ph/albums/userpics/11366/P9254362.JPG)

For the container, check the previous page of this thread, may picture don.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: qop on November 22, 2006, 09:12:15 PM
ok po sir, thank you po, now i know na kung ano hahanapin ko.  :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: lehboy on November 22, 2006, 09:18:13 PM
Just bought a 21L lock and lock yesterday and bought the digital hygrometer at infomaxx today. Sulit sa laki yung 21L lock and lock
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jsreque on November 22, 2006, 11:14:51 PM
posting my hygro again, P300 from Blade, accurate against our plant lab's electric drybox.

For the container, check the previous page of this thread, may picture don.

Wow ser Hartsord, maganda yan ah. Meron pa kaya nyan from Blade?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jackl on November 22, 2006, 11:54:20 PM
meron pa nakakita ako last week sa Park Square Blade outlet kaso lang mero na akong hygro...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bones on November 23, 2006, 06:44:41 PM
Just some info to share:

If you have a electronic dry box at home and use silica packs for your bags, pelican cases or such when you travel with your camera. I found out that you can recharge your silica packs inside your dry box as well.

I have one of those silica packs with the color indicator for when it has been saturated with moisture. I placed it into my electronic drybox and when i checked on it the next morning, the indicator turned blue indicatiing that it was no longer saturated with moisture.

Well the practicality of this is is that microwaving your silica packs cause them to heat up, so if you are in a hurry you might not have time to wait for them to cool down. Keeping them in the electronic dry box in storage lets you keep them absorbent for when you need them. Another advantage that I might see is that the electronic dry box will consume less electricity (seems logical) since the charged silica gel will keep the humidity low allowing your electronic dry box to stay off for longer periods of time.

I noticed this based on the fact that my eureka dry box does not turn on (red light indicator) as often ever since left the rechargable silica packs inside.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: marlvin on November 30, 2006, 03:17:34 PM
sirs, i know its funny but pwede ba ziplock na lang with a handfull of dessicants? Wala kasi drybox dito sa cebu and i tried looking for those battery/electronic dehumidifier pero wala eh. Napapraning na po ako kasi i seldom use my cam. thanks.

from cebu here too. i saw one (about 2 yrs ago, when i was not yet into photography) in true value.  i'll try checking it tonight if theystill have one.  if not i'll just build one for myself.  11L lock n lock from sm cebu home dept., hygrometer from fuma in ayala cebu across mark and spencer, and some silica gel from true value. :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jackl on December 01, 2006, 12:52:32 AM
Guys malamig na ulit simoy ng hangin ano ang hygro reading nyo ngayon???
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: gkungfoo on December 03, 2006, 11:02:58 PM
Mine's playing between 40-45% for the past couple of weeks. My setting is at M.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: retina on December 04, 2006, 12:02:04 AM
Mine is less that 50% inside the lock and lock...pag more than 50% I recharge it.Outside the box now is quite high about about 70% ...gusto ng mga fungus ang ganitong reading...he he he he...kaya don sa mga wala pang dry box go and get one.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: MASP on December 04, 2006, 11:29:56 AM
i saw some hygrometers in SM hidalgo going for only  P120 and P90
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Peorth on December 08, 2006, 01:31:36 PM
Hi, I'm not actually into photography but I discovered this thread while searching for a way to make a DIY drybox. I was researching on DVD media and it turns out humidity accelerates their deterioration. With a lot of my data on recordable DVDs, I set out to make my own drybox to store the optical media. The tips here have been very useful.  :)

If anyone is interested in a lot of cheap silica gel, a chemical/glassware supply shop is still your best option. I bought 1 kilogram of silica gel recently for P130 (that's only 1.3 pesos per gram). I bought it from B.E. Scientific Glassware, U.P. Shopping Center, and they only sell it in 1 kilo bags. I inquired about the blue silica gel (which turns pink when saturated with moisture); turns out it costs 10 times more at P1,300 per kilo. It's only available on a per-order basis. Might be practical if several people split the cost.

There were no desktop clock hygrometers in SM North so I decided to just get the one from Fuma. Dunno if it's accurate but it certainly moves a lot. I placed it in a Nescafe bottle nearly full of silica gel and the needle swung from 42% to less than 20% in a few minutes.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: erworm on December 08, 2006, 02:13:34 PM
If anyone is interested in a lot of cheap silica gel, a chemical/glassware supply shop is still your best option. I bought 1 kilogram of silica gel recently for P130 (that's only 1.3 pesos per gram). I bought it from B.E. Scientific Glassware, U.P. Shopping Center, and they only sell it in 1 kilo bags. I inquired about the blue silica gel (which turns pink when saturated with moisture); turns out it costs 10 times more at P1,300 per kilo. It's only available on a per-order basis. Might be practical if several people split the cost.

Thanks for the UP Shopping  Center tip! Will buy some when I go on my up street food binge :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Peorth on December 08, 2006, 03:07:01 PM
Oops, that's actually 1.3 pesos per 10 grams. Too bad they don't sell hygrometers too, but the lady in the store didn't give me a blank stare and called it a "hygro." Guess some people actually know what they are. ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: marlvin on December 12, 2006, 12:15:47 PM
anyone here has the hygrometer from fuma??? is it reliable or even accurate??? i'm talking about the analog type (P350). they also have a digital hygrometer but with a higher price of 1,150.  Planning to buy one but can't decide which one two choose.

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bones on December 12, 2006, 02:45:56 PM
I got the hygrometer from fuma, and it works fine. It reads the same as the one in my eureka dry box. If you have a friend that already has a dry box or digital hygrometer, you may want to lend the hygrometer you get from fuma and compare readings. If there is a problem, them you can try to have it replaced
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nixtaytay on December 17, 2006, 08:43:10 AM
i saw some hygrometers in SM hidalgo going for only  P120 and P90


Yesterday I was at SM Makati to look for the Desk Clock with thermometer and hgyrometer... I was lucky enough to get the last stock..they already have a new clock model on display - a dual timezone clock, to replace the thermo/hgyro clock. The tag price of the hygro was P179, but when scanned at the cashier it only registered P90! Guess on sale nga itong hygro clock... better hurry nga lang coz stocks of this clock is already out at SM Makati , and might as well be out or will be out at other SM stores coz theyve replaced it na with the dual timezone model.

 :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Peorth on December 17, 2006, 11:04:55 PM
anyone here has the hygrometer from fuma??? is it reliable or even accurate??? i'm talking about the analog type (P350). they also have a digital hygrometer but with a higher price of 1,150.  Planning to buy one but can't decide which one two choose.

I suggest you get the digital thermohygrometer from Infomax; I bought one recently and at P700 it costs much less than the pen-type one in Fuma. The analog hygrometer I got from Fuma (for P380) is slightly broken because the needle gets stuck and I have to tap it a bit to make it show the actual reading. I compared the two for a while side-by-side. My observations:

1. The digital hygrometer responds to changes in humidity much faster than the analog one.
2. The analog hygrometer has problems in showing extremes of humidity.
3. I calibrated the analog to the digital hygro and the difference between the two ranges from around 2-8 RH%. It's higher during rapid changes in humidity because the analog hygro has to catch up.

I think no one has brought this up before but analog hygrometers need to be calibrated to make sure they show an accurate reading. Digital hygrometers on the other hand are usually more accurate and don't require calibration.

To calibrate your analog hygro, you can do two distinct procedures:
1. salt calibration - slow but precise
2. wet towel calibration - fast but less accurate

To do salt calibration, you take approximately a teaspoon of table salt and moisten it with some water (but not enough to dissolve it). Place the salt in a convenient container, like a bottle cap. Put the analog hygro and the salt in an airtight container like a Lock & Lock or Ziploc bag. After around 8 hours, the humidity will be exactly 75% and you can calibrate your analog to this value. If the hygro doesn't have a calibration screw, you need to remember the discrepancy and add or subtract this everytime you read the hygro.

To do wet towel calibration, wrap the analog hygro in a wet (but not dripping wet) towel. After 30 minutes to 1 hour, the reading should be 98%-100%. This method is less accurate because analog hygros generally do not work well in extremes of humidity.

I tried doing the two procedures on the Fuma hygrometer but it didn't work well. After doing salt calibration (to 75%) and doing the wet towel one, the hygro wouldn't go beyond 90%. If I calibrated it to 98% using the wet towel and put the hygro with the salt solution, the reading wouldn't go to 75% but stayed quite higher. I also tried putting the hygro in a jar almost filled to the top with half a kilo of silica gel but it wouldn't go below 20%. This shows that the Fuma hygro isn't accurate at extremes of humidity. However after several days of comparing the two at the usual daily humidites this December (~47-60%), the analog hygro did manage to stay within 2-8 RH% of the digital reading. Seems the Fuma hygro is more accurate when it functions in the middle ranges, not surprising at all for an analog hygrometer.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nixtaytay on December 18, 2006, 12:09:47 AM
I got this Homelife Dehumidifier from our camera club's christmas party last night (tamang tama i just bought the hygro clock at SM yesterday too)

(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q280/nixtaytay/DSC00012.jpg)

Question:

How is this dehumidifier compared to silica gels? Ok ba gamitin ito? If gagamitin ko to, can it alone do the job or dapat samahan ko parin ng silica gels, say my drybox is around 10-11 liters.

Im currently using a 20L MegaWare container (been using it since 2001, not sure kung meron pang tindang ganito) stuffed with silica gel, planning to make a new one, luma na kasi itong gamit ko eh, im having doubts na on its tightness.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pubert on December 18, 2006, 12:34:40 AM
Question:

How is this dehumidifier compared to silica gels? Ok ba gamitin ito? If gagamitin ko to, can it alone do the job or dapat samahan ko parin ng silica gels, say my drybox is around 10-11 liters.

Sir, i'm not sure about this pero i think thats the calcium chloride type na dessicant... which i read somewhere (i think sa thread na to mismo) that it's not good for photography gear (it might cause corrosion). It might be better to stick with your silica gel dessicants muna until maconfirm.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nixtaytay on December 18, 2006, 02:13:39 PM
Sir, i'm not sure about this pero i think thats the calcium chloride type na dessicant... which i read somewhere (i think sa thread na to mismo) that it's not good for photography gear (it might cause corrosion). It might be better to stick with your silica gel dessicants muna until maconfirm.

Really?!  :o

Buti nalang di ko pa ginagamit! Might as well stick with silica gels.  :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Estong on December 18, 2006, 09:49:25 PM
Thanks for sharing the info. It was very well appreciated.  ;)


I suggest you get the digital thermohygrometer from Infomax; I bought one recently and at P700 it costs much less than the pen-type one in Fuma. The analog hygrometer I got from Fuma (for P380) is slightly broken because the needle gets stuck and I have to tap it a bit to make it show the actual reading. I compared the two for a while side-by-side. My observations:

1. The digital hygrometer responds to changes in humidity much faster than the analog one.
2. The analog hygrometer has problems in showing extremes of humidity.
3. I calibrated the analog to the digital hygro and the difference between the two ranges from around 2-8 RH%. It's higher during rapid changes in humidity because the analog hygro has to catch up.

I think no one has brought this up before but analog hygrometers need to be calibrated to make sure they show an accurate reading. Digital hygrometers on the other hand are usually more accurate and don't require calibration.

To calibrate your analog hygro, you can do two distinct procedures:
1. salt calibration - slow but precise
2. wet towel calibration - fast but less accurate

To do salt calibration, you take approximately a teaspoon of table salt and moisten it with some water (but not enough to dissolve it). Place the salt in a convenient container, like a bottle cap. Put the analog hygro and the salt in an airtight container like a Lock & Lock or Ziploc bag. After around 8 hours, the humidity will be exactly 75% and you can calibrate your analog to this value. If the hygro doesn't have a calibration screw, you need to remember the discrepancy and add or subtract this everytime you read the hygro.

To do wet towel calibration, wrap the analog hygro in a wet (but not dripping wet) towel. After 30 minutes to 1 hour, the reading should be 98%-100%. This method is less accurate because analog hygros generally do not work well in extremes of humidity.

I tried doing the two procedures on the Fuma hygrometer but it didn't work well. After doing salt calibration (to 75%) and doing the wet towel one, the hygro wouldn't go beyond 90%. If I calibrated it to 98% using the wet towel and put the hygro with the salt solution, the reading wouldn't go to 75% but stayed quite higher. I also tried putting the hygro in a jar almost filled to the top with half a kilo of silica gel but it wouldn't go below 20%. This shows that the Fuma hygro isn't accurate at extremes of humidity. However after several days of comparing the two at the usual daily humidites this December (~47-60%), the analog hygro did manage to stay within 2-8 RH% of the digital reading. Seems the Fuma hygro is more accurate when it functions in the middle ranges, not surprising at all for an analog hygrometer.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: theveed on December 20, 2006, 05:18:07 PM
I got this Homelife Dehumidifier from our camera club's christmas party last night (tamang tama i just bought the hygro clock at SM yesterday too)

([url]http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q280/nixtaytay/DSC00012.jpg[/url])

Question:

How is this dehumidifier compared to silica gels? Ok ba gamitin ito? If gagamitin ko to, can it alone do the job or dapat samahan ko parin ng silica gels, say my drybox is around 10-11 liters.

Im currently using a 20L MegaWare container (been using it since 2001, not sure kung meron pang tindang ganito) stuffed with silica gel, planning to make a new one, luma na kasi itong gamit ko eh, im having doubts na on its tightness.



Don't use dehumidifiers po, it's mentioned somewhere in this thread that it corrodes the camera's terminals or something...

Where's UP Shopping mall exactly?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ice_man on December 20, 2006, 11:33:17 PM
Hi guys, I have a question to those using the Eureka drycab.. I wasn't sure that the reading was correct, so i bought the digital hygro from infomax and tested them both. Placed the digital hygro inside the drycab and then waited for around 2 hours and took the reading.

The analog hygro read 45% and the digital one read 38%. I was a bit worried because they weren't the same. But I always kept an eye on both hygros. They've managed to stay in those range most of the time. Then after about a month I bought another eureka drycab and then tested it again. It yields the same reading.

So my question is, is it really normal na magka-iba reading ng digital and analog one? I'm not worried namn but sometimes naiisip ko what if, mali nga?

anyone has a similar experience?

thanks  :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nixtaytay on December 21, 2006, 08:25:37 AM
Hi guys, I have a question to those using the Eureka drycab.. I wasn't sure that the reading was correct, so i bought the digital hygro from infomax and tested them both. Placed the digital hygro inside the drycab and then waited for around 2 hours and took the reading.

The analog hygro read 45% and the digital one read 38%. I was a bit worried because they weren't the same. But I always kept an eye on both hygros. They've managed to stay in those range most of the time. Then after about a month I bought another eureka drycab and then tested it again. It yields the same reading.

So my question is, is it really normal na magka-iba reading ng digital and analog one? I'm not worried namn but sometimes naiisip ko what if, mali nga?

anyone has a similar experience?

thanks  :D

Baka di calibrated yung analog hygro mo... try doing the salt or wet towel calibration (as posted in another post in this thread).. baka the discrepancy is caused by the calbration of your analog hygro as opposed to the digital. Check the calibration nalang... kung adjustable yan analog mo, ayus maipipihit mo lang yung calibration mo. If walang adjustments... well you have to mentally adjust it in your mind nalang and take note of the discrepancy.  :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Peorth on December 22, 2006, 02:05:47 PM
Don't use dehumidifiers po, it's mentioned somewhere in this thread that it corrodes the camera's terminals or something...

Where's UP Shopping mall exactly?

It's inside U.P. Diliman. From Philcoa (Citimall/Jollibee side) just take either a U.P. Philcoa jeep or U.P. SM North jeep and tell the driver to drop you at "Shopping Center." You can't miss the glassware supply store because it's the only one in the whole building. It's near the entrance of Shopping Center closest to the Catholic church.

The 1 kilo silica gel sold there is enough to last a very long time since you can keep on recycling it.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: theveed on December 22, 2006, 03:01:17 PM
Thanks a heap Peorth :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Kikkomann on December 26, 2006, 04:40:01 PM
How much ba yung cheapest na drybox (yung parang ref-type) sa Aperture. Wala kasi sa website nila eh.  :-\
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pubert on December 26, 2006, 04:53:59 PM
not sure pero around 5-5.5K yata Eureka Brand sa aperture.

Sa watson's sa hidalgo meron din same price pero Wonderful yung brand, same size pero 2 yung adjustable na shelf.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Kikkomann on December 26, 2006, 06:00:23 PM
So I'll assume na mas OK yung sa Watson's kaysa doon sa binebent sa Aperture?

And mga gaano kaya kalaki yun? Meron kasi akong nakit sa True Value, Am-Pro ang brand. Php13K ang cheapest. 25-30 liters ata ang capacity. Same size kaya yun nung sa Watson's and/or aperture?

TIA.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pubert on December 26, 2006, 10:39:00 PM
i can't say which is better... i have the Wonderful brand and no problem so far... and may 1yr warranty daw kay watson's. I opted for this kasi maliliit lang naman gear ko (400D, a few accessories, p&s cam and a few more stuff) so ok lang madaming shelves.

about the size: naka print sa box 40x40x52 cm 38 liter capacity pero when i measured the actual unit it's just 33x33x45 cm
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Kikkomann on December 27, 2006, 08:21:43 AM
How much yung bili mo chief? Care to share some pics?  ;D

TIA.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pubert on December 27, 2006, 02:03:55 PM
How much yung bili mo chief? Care to share some pics?  ;D

TIA.


watson's is selling it for 6K natawadan ko ng 5.5K. adjustable hung height nung shelves btw. yung sa aperture na eureka may 10% discount pa as of last month so cheaper pa din yun ng konti.

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/130/334814398_163db9dca5.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Kikkomann on December 28, 2006, 09:12:33 PM
^^^ Hey thanks chief.

Went to Aperture this afternoon, bought their smallest drybox.

(http://www.bizzcity.com/web/rdzi/eurekadrybox.jpg)

Thank you so much for your inputs.  :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ice_man on December 29, 2006, 10:03:38 PM
^^^ Hey thanks chief.

Went to Aperture this afternoon, bought their smallest drybox.

([url]http://www.bizzcity.com/web/rdzi/eurekadrybox.jpg[/url])

Thank you so much for your inputs.  :D


Medyo mataas po yata ang reading sa drybox nyo ah..  :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pubert on December 30, 2006, 02:12:14 AM
Medyo mataas po yata ang reading sa drybox nyo ah..  :)

ah... yung sa akin kakabukas lang nung kinuha yung pic... typical reading is between 40-55%  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Kikkomann on December 30, 2006, 06:45:36 AM
@pubert: I think ice_man was referring to me.  ;D

@iceman: Medyo mataas talaga chief dahil kakasaksak ko pa lang nung drybox nung kinunan ko. Hehe.

Teka, ano ba dapat ang normal? Naglalaro kasi ngayon bet. 35-40RH eh.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: edwink on December 31, 2006, 10:34:47 AM
got me self a big lock&lock with wheels :D and the digital hygro from Infomax. I can't find any silica gels in Glorietta.  Went home and set-up the DIY dry box.  Two days now, with a handful of small silica packs (what was available - which came with the camera/gadgets boxes), my reading is at 53-55.  is this okay?  I read somewhere in the camera's manual to store it below 60.

any store in Glorietta that sells silica?

thanks,
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: marlvin on December 31, 2006, 12:52:29 PM
got me self a big lock&lock with wheels :D and the digital hygro from Infomax. I can't find any silica gels in Glorietta.  Went home and set-up the DIY dry box.  Two days now, with a handful of small silica packs (what was available - which came with the camera/gadgets boxes), my reading is at 53-55.  is this okay?  I read somewhere in the camera's manual to store it below 60.

any store in Glorietta that sells silica?

thanks,

i have the same diy dry box with urs but i get a reading of 60 in my analog hygro from fuma.  trying 2 find some rechargeable silica gels d2 sa cebu pro walang mahanap. :(
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nixtaytay on January 01, 2007, 01:21:51 PM
i have the same diy dry box with urs but i get a reading of 60 in my analog hygro from fuma.  trying 2 find some rechargeable silica gels d2 sa cebu pro walang mahanap. :(


If youre interested, I got a loadsome of Silica Gels Packets, just arrived last night.

http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=10092.0

 ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: marlvin on January 01, 2007, 02:56:41 PM
If youre interested, I got a loadsome of Silica Gels Packets, just arrived last night.

[url]http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=10092.0[/url]

 ;)


for how much??
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: joya on January 12, 2007, 12:20:22 PM
got a wireless mini dehumidifier (silica gel) from True Value in EDSA Shang around P800+
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: marlvin on January 12, 2007, 02:21:20 PM
got a wireless mini dehumidifier (silica gel) from True Value in EDSA Shang around P800+

wireless mini dehumidifier? what do you mean by wireless? ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ice_man on January 13, 2007, 09:47:46 PM
@pubert: I think ice_man was referring to me.  ;D

@iceman: Medyo mataas talaga chief dahil kakasaksak ko pa lang nung drybox nung kinunan ko. Hehe.

Teka, ano ba dapat ang normal? Naglalaro kasi ngayon bet. 35-40RH eh.

My readings are also between 35-40%. Although yung digital ko na hygro which I bought before, always reads less 5-8% than the hygro inside the eureka.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: apol on January 16, 2007, 12:47:02 AM
posting my hygro again, P300 from Blade, accurate against our plant lab's electric drybox.

([url]http://www.photo.net.ph/albums/userpics/11366/P9254362.JPG[/url])

For the container, check the previous page of this thread, may picture don.


thanks po sa picture.

i also got one sa blade, parksquare kanina.

silica nalang kelangan ko.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: joya on January 16, 2007, 08:20:55 AM
wireless mini dehumidifier? what do you mean by wireless? ;)

it's actually a wireless unit with a built-in plug on it...
Title: Dehumidifier instead of Silica Gel
Post by: finepix on January 16, 2007, 11:22:46 AM
Guys, I bought a Lock 'n Lock box as storage for my stuff. Since I can't find any silica gel packs in SM Cebu or Ayala, I bought a dehumidifier instead at ACE hardware. Is this OK?

The dehumidifier has to be replaced every 3-4 months... the white granules are inside a box the size of soap bar...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: WildSwan on January 16, 2007, 11:27:49 AM
Finefix, no!!!

Remove it at once! Dehumidifier, such as thristy hippo gives off fumes that is harmful to the lens coating, lowpass filter and filters.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: apol on January 16, 2007, 01:10:55 PM
finally got the silica at handyman

the brand is homelife silica, is this the right one?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: apol on January 16, 2007, 01:59:40 PM
is this the right one?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/apol802360/3650pic04.jpg)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jason_b on January 16, 2007, 02:18:44 PM
Yeah I bought that same brand too.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: apol on January 18, 2007, 08:28:04 PM
after a few day of using homelife silica, my hygrometer reading is more than 70 and it seems that it can not lower the humidity.

so i looked for other brands, luckily i found this
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/apol802360/IMG_0050.jpg)
it's cheap, only 30 pesos per 100g packet
it only took a few minutes to have the reading go less than 60
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: HartSord on January 18, 2007, 09:16:09 PM
apol, the probable reason why it can't lower the humidity anymore is that it's probably saturated already.

You can recharge silica gel by putting it under strong sunlight for a few hours, in a toaster oven, or carefully in a microwave oven.  You didn't have to get new silica gel.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: marlvin on January 18, 2007, 09:41:20 PM
If youre interested, I got a loadsome of Silica Gels Packets, just arrived last night.

[url]http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=10092.0[/url]

 ;)


the silica gels i bought from you are packed in plastic packaging. how will i recharge it aside from putting it in direct sunlight? pwde ko ba tanggalin sa packaging nya den put it inside the oven??? kasi if it stays in its plastic package baka magmelt ung plastic.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nixtaytay on January 18, 2007, 09:55:02 PM
the silica gels i bought from you are packed in plastic packaging. how will i recharge it aside from putting it in direct sunlight? pwde ko ba tanggalin sa packaging nya den put it inside the oven??? kasi if it stays in its plastic package baka magmelt ung plastic.

Pwede rin, but you have to destroy or cut the plastic packaging. Kaya ako I just dry it under the sun, havent tried if the plastic is microwavable.  ;)

Yung sa iba nakita is talagang tinatanggal na nila from the packages and nakabuhaghag nalang sa box yung grains. So no worries na about melting plastics when it comes to recharging - derecho luto na.

 :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: apol on January 18, 2007, 10:00:50 PM
apol, the probable reason why it can't lower the humidity anymore is that it's probably saturated already.

You can recharge silica gel by putting it under strong sunlight for a few hours, in a toaster oven, or carefully in a microwave oven.  You didn't have to get new silica gel.
is that possible sir eventhough it is new and the plastic package is still sealed? I tried to squeeze the plastic package to check if it is sealed, and no air escaped, so i assumed that it's sealed. also sir, does the color of the beads change to indicate that it's time to recharge?

i will "bilad" it tomorrow

anyway, i'm very happy with my new silica

thanks sir for your info.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: edwink on February 01, 2007, 10:59:41 AM
My DIY drybox.  Actually, BIY - buy it yourself, sa mall :D

(http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/373/dsc0568cf1.jpg)

(http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3153/dsc0570cr0.jpg)

(http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3816/dsc0569dy9.jpg)

(http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/6769/dsc0571hl6.jpg)

Cost:
Lock&Lock 21L - P1,200 - SM, sa kitchenware
Digital Hygrometer - P 700 - ParkSquare - Infomax
Silica Gels - free from old boxes/packaging

 :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: crestmont on February 01, 2007, 05:25:32 PM
@edwink: Did you recently bought that Lock & Lock 21L box? Which branch of SM? Ang dami ko na pinuntahan na SM puro walang stock, not even the 11L.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: edwink on February 01, 2007, 05:57:23 PM
^ bought it 2 months na ata. SM southmall.  sa ACE hardware try mo din po.

the 21L comes with 2 wheels on one side. cool.  :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: qop on February 01, 2007, 06:48:25 PM
@crestmont

sir try mo sa mga shopwise, nakakita ako dun (shopwise Libis), last week lang, so i guest meron din sa ibang shopwise.   :-\
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: lehboy on February 01, 2007, 07:01:11 PM
Edwink pareho tayo ng setup a  :) 21L lock n lock + digital hygro from infomax
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: edwink on February 02, 2007, 01:29:33 PM
cool!  ;D  how many silica do you use? ako konti lang, di pa nakakabile...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: crestmont on February 04, 2007, 10:21:39 AM
@edwink
@qop

Salamat sa info..
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: lehboy on February 04, 2007, 01:59:19 PM
Bought yung parang nakabox sa truevalue, pero so far ok naman ang humidity dito sa amin hehe  :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: finepix on February 06, 2007, 12:57:14 PM
Last month, I bought a dehumidifier from ACE Hardware and you helpful guys here told me that this dehumidifier is NO GOOD for our photographic equipment because of the fumes that it will emit. And you're right, I transferred it to another sealed container and after a couple of weeks, it turned liquid just like water.

Anyway, I bought this (see image below) at Handyman Robinsons Cebu for P145.++. How about this, any comments on this? I haven't put it inside my DIY box yet because I need your opinion/s first.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r238/msupkf/waterglass.jpg)

Btw, at the back of the package, it says that it is suitable for photographic equipment.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: marlvin on February 06, 2007, 01:42:41 PM
Last month, I bought a dehumidifier from ACE Hardware and you helpful guys here told me that this dehumidifier is NO GOOD for our photographic equipment because of the fumes that it will emit. And you're right, I transferred it to another sealed container and after a couple of weeks, it turned liquid just like water.

Anyway, I bought this (see image below) at Handyman Robinsons Cebu for P145.++. How about this, any comments on this? I haven't put it inside my DIY box yet because I need your opinion/s first.

([url]http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r238/msupkf/waterglass.jpg[/url])

Btw, at the back of the package, it says that it is suitable for photographic equipment.

Thanks!


why not try it in ur diy box without ur equipments for observation and post it here again. ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: finepix on February 06, 2007, 01:57:58 PM

I don't have a hygrometer so I can only rely on experience of others...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: MelvinSevilla on February 06, 2007, 02:37:17 PM
I don't have a hygrometer so I can only rely on experience of others...

I used this water glass reusable dehumidying bag, and I believe it works.  What you should do is try to test this with a wet-bulb thermometer (one thermometer is submerged in water, while the other is very dry, the difference is the humidity).  Try to match the  when the bag's design turns from blue-pink, and when the hygrometer shows 0.1mlh20/kg-air.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: adjong on February 09, 2007, 12:23:34 AM

@finepix

i wouldnt trust it that much except if it contains "real" silica get.  there are a lot of dessicants available and most of them are corrosive to our cameras.

the bag can also promote a lot of fibers in your cases and your cameras.

i only use the this:

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/silica.jpg)

silica gel cost only Php150 per kilo (bought at most chemical supply outlets) (ask any pharmacy or chem student).  it looks like transparent beads and are dry to touch.  i use plastic pill boxes wherien i drill 1/16-inch holes and place these inside the boxes.

the one kilo gel i bought last year is still half full.   i change each month (throw away the used) in four - 2.6 liter lock&lock travel cases and three - 9 liter lock&lock cases to store 4 cameras, 8 lenses, 2 flashtrax, cards, etc.

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: azool on February 09, 2007, 08:17:53 AM

i only use the this:

([url]http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/silica.jpg[/url])

the one kilo gel i bought last year is still half full.   i change each month (throw away the used) in four - 2.6 liter lock&lock travel cases and three - 9 liter lock&lock cases to store 4 cameras, 8 lenses, 2 flashtrax, cards, etc.


@sir adjong,

question lang po,  hindi po ba rechargeable itong ganitong type ng silica gels?  kasi you throw away after a month po eh.

thanks.
:)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: adjong on February 09, 2007, 05:05:27 PM


@azool

yes its fully rechargeable po.  all you have to do is just bake it in a medium oven.

what i am doing is just disposing as i dont have the time anymore to do such things.  what i meant po na is that P150 for 2 years is a small price to pay for gear upkeep.

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: neilc on February 17, 2007, 02:20:27 PM
I'm using a China made small dry-box. The brand is Yangguang Dry Box.  I got it for 1,200 pesos at Kameraworld in SM Fairview.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: marlvin on February 17, 2007, 03:09:50 PM
I'm using a China made small dry-box. The brand is Yangguang Dry Box.  I got it for 1,200 pesos at Kameraworld in SM Fairview.

can u post pic pls?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: neilc on February 17, 2007, 08:30:44 PM
here's the picture of the drybox...

(http://www.flickr.com/photos/68144556@N00/392869051/)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: marlvin on February 18, 2007, 02:25:15 AM
where's the pic sir? :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pubert on February 18, 2007, 07:24:11 AM
@sir neilc -sir yung address po nung flicker photo page yung nalagay nyo and not the address of the photo itself kaya hindi lumalabas yung pic.

inayos ko po yung image link... i hope ok lang po sa inyo  ;D

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/128/392869051_7029f46685.jpg?v=0)

ok yung nabili nyo ah! and for 1.2K may kasama nang built in hygrometer -mukhang good deal na to compared sa DIY 9L or 10L lock and lock dry box. isang size lang po ba yung available sa binilihan nyo? pwede po pakipost capacity or dimensions? thanks sir!!!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Doogie on February 18, 2007, 09:30:58 AM
@sir adjong

Saan po nakkabili nung container na merong holes for the silica gel. I bought mine sa hidalgo and just placed the stuff in my DIY dry box. luckyly a colleague of mine had an extra digital hygrometer kaya i was able to set up a cheap dry box  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: neilc on February 18, 2007, 06:43:35 PM
@sir neilc -sir yung address po nung flicker photo page yung nalagay nyo and not the address of the photo itself kaya hindi lumalabas yung pic.

inayos ko po yung image link... i hope ok lang po sa inyo  ;D

([url]http://farm1.static.flickr.com/128/392869051_7029f46685.jpg?v=0[/url])

ok yung nabili nyo ah! and for 1.2K may kasama nang built in hygrometer -mukhang good deal na to compared sa DIY 9L or 10L lock and lock dry box. isang size lang po ba yung available sa binilihan nyo? pwede po pakipost capacity or dimensions? thanks sir!!!


thanks pubert.  sorry about that guys.  nagmamadali kasi :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: neilc on February 18, 2007, 06:49:19 PM
according to the box, its extra large already.  the store only has this size.  it says in the box L270xW230xH200.  it can accomodate my oly e-500 with kit lens, about 2-3 lenses and some hoods.  the package includes an electric moisture absorber.  you plug the device in an AC outlet for 1-2 hours, then let it cool for 20 minutes then put it inside the box.  it really works.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pubert on February 18, 2007, 07:34:58 PM
according to the box, its extra large already.  the store only has this size.  it says in the box L270xW230xH200.  it can accomodate my oly e-500 with kit lens, about 2-3 lenses and some hoods.  the package includes an electric moisture absorber.  you plug the device in an AC outlet for 1-2 hours, then let it cool for 20 minutes then put it inside the box.  it really works.

wow! if kasama yung electric moisture absorber sulit na talaga yun... yun pa lang yata 800 pesos na yung value pag binili separately... plus meron ka pang hygro and the box itself. excellent deal for just 1,200 pesos. thanks sa info sir!!!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: wicket on February 20, 2007, 06:39:58 PM
I'm using a China made small dry-box. The brand is Yangguang Dry Box.  I got it for 1,200 pesos at Kameraworld in SM Fairview.

how is it so far? :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: neilc on February 20, 2007, 11:18:26 PM
how is it so far? :)

its ok.  hygrometer reading is always on the "green" side.  its really a cheaper alternative.  thanks.

neil
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: newbiekabluey on February 22, 2007, 10:31:45 PM
medyo off topic po pero gusto ko sana magtanong kung may nakakaalam ng shop that cleans lenses with fungus already? meron po kasi binigay sa akin friend ko na Sigma lenses and may fungus yung isa.   :P

salamat po!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nixtaytay on February 23, 2007, 08:04:38 AM
medyo off topic po pero gusto ko sana magtanong kung may nakakaalam ng shop that cleans lenses with fungus already? meron po kasi binigay sa akin friend ko na Sigma lenses and may fungus yung isa.   :P

salamat po!

Marami sa Hidalgo.

Or if malapit ka sa SM Southmall, go to  Once In A Lifetime Photography (in between ACE Hardware and Tokyo Tokyo), look for Roger Tingle.

 ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: newbiekabluey on February 23, 2007, 08:30:24 PM
thanks very much sir! i'll check out yung nasa sm southmall since i work in alabang. :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jer2911 on March 06, 2007, 09:31:53 AM
Sirs, tanong ko lang. sa pag heat ng silica gel, how long and what will be the ideal temp to bake them?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pototoy on March 06, 2007, 05:45:07 PM
got ,yself and lock and lock box, silica gel and a digital hygrometer from megamall.  Inside the box is 8 pack of silical gel my samsung handy cam, eos 300n slr and nikon d40 the reading of the RH is 53 is that  ok?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Phrozhen.Khold on March 06, 2007, 08:02:21 PM
OT:

This will happen if you stored your gear just about anywhere... so just jet ur @ss a drybox  :P


(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i280/Phrozhen_Khold/Unclassified/PentaxCam00.jpg)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Eidekos on March 07, 2007, 12:22:21 AM
My DSLR is just a month old..do i really need this DIY Drybox? or if just in the bag and a few silica gel would do?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: polgie on March 07, 2007, 08:44:30 AM
My DSLR is just a month old..do i really need this DIY Drybox? or if just in the bag and a few silica gel would do?

when i bought my dslr july last year, i made a DIY Drybox, used it for a month or so, until i bought myself a decent camera bag. Now i dont use the drybox since i always bring my cam with me. I put lots of packs of silica gel (around 6-10) in my bag and most importantly, u need a hygrometer as well to check humidity readings. Mine stays at around 45-50. Right now all i have is the kit lens and all my cam accessories fits in my bag so i'd probably use the drybox again when i invest in extra lenses/accessories
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: vicoyski on March 09, 2007, 12:29:37 AM
I just got myself a drybox (Wonderful) with built-in hygrometer and vent valve.  Cost me P4.2T, including the rechargeable de-humidifier.  Got it at Twincell Marketing at the 3rd floor or Virramall in Greenhills. It's big enough to fit one of my camera bags (a Lowepro Stealth Reporter D200 AW) with all my stuff in it.  Just checked the hygrometer.  It's currently at 35%RH (Relative Humidity).  A range of 45-55%RH is already good enough for cameras and lenses.

(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/1596/img43fa8221c2d16pj0.jpg)

Here are my stuff after I just put them in the drybox...
(http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3186/dsc00183mc9.th.jpg) (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00183mc9.jpg)

IMO, boxes are better than cabinets, as you can bring boxes along on long vacations. A dry cabinet stays at home.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: peterpan on March 09, 2007, 02:54:52 PM

vicoy, ok toh ah.  question...may handle ba yun drybox mo sa top?  or do you have to carry it sa sides lang?  thanks.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: neilc on March 09, 2007, 03:19:40 PM
I just got myself a drybox (Wonderful) with built-in hygrometer and vent valve.  Cost me P4.2T, including the rechargeable de-humidifier.  Got it at Twincell Marketing at the 3rd floor or Virramall in Greenhills. It's big enough to fit one of my camera bags (a Lowepro Stealth Reporter D200 AW) with all my stuff in it.  Just checked the hygrometer.  It's currently at 35%RH (Relative Humidity).  A range of 45-55%RH is already good enough for cameras and lenses.

([url]http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/1596/img43fa8221c2d16pj0.jpg[/url])

Here are my stuff after I just put them in the drybox...
([url]http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3186/dsc00183mc9.th.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00183mc9.jpg[/url])

IMO, boxes are better than cabinets, as you can bring boxes along on long vacations. A dry cabinet stays at home.


vic, it looks like the one i got. (please see posted pic 2 pages back).  maybe yours is bigger.  got mine for 1,200 only bro :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: watchacallicot on March 09, 2007, 04:46:16 PM
DIY Dry Box

Hygrometer from SM Accesories section
LockNLock HPL886 - 10L
(http://images.carlobarrameda.multiply.com/image/4/photos/4/500x500/11/LockNLockHPL886%20-%2010L.jpg?et=M4Z%2CLJFts%2ChXWy%2Cm10zFvQ)

Rechargeable Silica Gel (True Value Shangrila)
(http://images.carlobarrameda.multiply.com/image/6/photos/4/500x500/7/E150.jpg?et=VtWxQ1xEGaUbJSiu38tAuw)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: vicoyski on March 09, 2007, 11:12:11 PM
vicoy, ok toh ah.  question...may handle ba yun drybox mo sa top?  or do you have to carry it sa sides lang?  thanks.

Walang handle, eh... But, there's a provision for a shoulder strap.  I think it's sold separately. 

Quote from: neilc
vic, it looks like the one i got. (please see posted pic 2 pages back).  maybe yours is bigger.  got mine for 1,200 only bro

Outside dimensions are 380mm x 280mm x 270mm.  After finding out about the DIY bryboxes here, medyo nagsisi ako. :-[  Should've checked-out this forum before buying.  Only consolation is, protected na ang investment ko.  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: peterpan on March 10, 2007, 12:49:21 AM
ok. will consider that. at least my hygrometer na. i'm currently using lang lock&lock na 10ltr. natuwa ako na may sa top na parang lunch box which makes it easy to carry around. bibili palang ako ng silica gel and hygrometer or just buy something similar to what you got.  thanks for sharing pare. very helpful info.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: powerpee on March 20, 2007, 07:09:57 AM
Here is what I used...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/powerpee/sets/72157594300779859/

 ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: overangel on March 26, 2007, 09:18:26 AM
can the canon metallic lens vault keep the lens fungus-free?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: edwink on March 26, 2007, 11:12:32 AM
was able to finally get me self some silica packs from Avenue.  Got 2 medium pouches for 45 petot each.

old readings (with 3 little silica pouches from tshirts, rubbershoes) - 45 to 65

now, nagulat ako... - 27 to 29

too low right?   ???
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pinklife on March 26, 2007, 11:56:19 AM
do i need a dry box even if i use my gear at least once a week? and even if i only got a kit lens? help help...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: vicoyski on March 26, 2007, 12:00:43 PM
do i need a dry box even if i use my gear at least once a week? and even if i only got a kit lens? help help...

Yes, you'll definitely need one, especially, if you've got plans to acquire additional lenses in the near future.  ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pinklife on March 26, 2007, 12:07:53 PM
when i bought my dslr july last year, i made a DIY Drybox, used it for a month or so, until i bought myself a decent camera bag. Now i dont use the drybox since i always bring my cam with me. I put lots of packs of silica gel (around 6-10) in my bag and most importantly, u need a hygrometer as well to check humidity readings. Mine stays at around 45-50. Right now all i have is the kit lens and all my cam accessories fits in my bag so i'd probably use the drybox again when i invest in extra lenses/accessories
wow this answered my question na pala. :) thanks!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pinklife on March 26, 2007, 12:08:47 PM
Yes, you'll definitely need one, especially, if you've got plans to acquire additional lenses in the near future.  ;)

thanks vicoyski!!! :D ill get one of those 'affordable' drybox muna :P
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Eidekos on March 26, 2007, 04:00:50 PM
do i need a dry box even if i use my gear at least once a week? and even if i only got a kit lens? help help...

That's also my question after weeks of having a DSLR. So i got myself a cheap L&L para storage. =)

Cheers
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: edwink on March 26, 2007, 04:01:54 PM
hi Raya, dont forget to get a digital hygrometer. you can get a digital one from infomax for 700. or an the onyx brand from blade.   ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: vcuares on March 27, 2007, 06:10:22 AM
3years ago I left for the US leaving my my film camera and lenses on a tupperware box with a microwavable silica gel. I thought it wasn't that humid in Minnesota so I just brought my 300D and left the homemade dry storage. thinking that I wouldn't need it. I have since transferred here in CA - Los Angeles and I feel that it is a bit humid here compared to MN. Plus also the fact that I just recently bought two lenses.

Anyone of you know where can I get that microwavable silica gel bags here? The peeps over in the US forums don't seem to be concerned with keeping their lenses dry. Am I being overly concerned?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: overangel on March 27, 2007, 06:00:30 PM
incases of fungus in the lens, can it be fixed/removed?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ZD5 on March 28, 2007, 09:59:53 PM
incases of fungus in the lens, can it be fixed/removed?

Besides having it cleaned? Ibilad mo sa araw yung lens mo with the side with fungus exposed / facing the sun. The Heat will kill the fungus so it will not grow anymore, but this is just a temporary fix. Ipalinis mo pa din yung lens, a standard zoom will only cost 1.5K instead of buying a new lens.  ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: aspirecaptured on March 28, 2007, 10:34:39 PM
hi guys, what store i could buy a good pack of silica gel? and what is its brand?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: wowielgray on March 28, 2007, 10:39:45 PM
hi guys, what store i could buy a good pack of silica gel? and what is its brand?

you could try true value, ACE and handyman.. below 100 bux lang sya... arond 60 ata
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jovijovijovi on March 30, 2007, 02:29:29 PM
Hi, I keep my camera only in a camera bag and I take it out of the room at night when the air con is on. At times in hotel rooms outside the country, the lens moists or fogs up because of the temperature change due to the aircon ditioning. Is this damaging to the lens? or can you just wipe the fog off?

thanks for your advice!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Alfalfameister on March 31, 2007, 02:01:05 PM
21 liter Lock and Lock boxes are on sale in SM Mega Mall (dunno until when). Of course, the other capacities (9L, etc) are also on sale.

At infomaxx Mega Mall, P650 if cash yung Digital hygrometer.

Tapos 149.95 yung Silica Gel in a big white bag in True Value (Shangri-La EDSA). I bought mine in Handyman, but last I checked, wala na sa Galleria.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: fore on March 31, 2007, 06:48:14 PM
It is also advisable to make sure that your hygrometer is properly calibrated. The procedure is fairly simple and can be found here: http://www.bcspecialties.com/cigarasp/hygcal.asp
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: hubes on March 31, 2007, 09:35:26 PM
Do I need to calibrate a digital hygrometer? I bought one from infoxmax and its always in the 24-26 rh%
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: fore on April 02, 2007, 09:16:20 AM
It is usually the analog hygrometers that are out of spec. But if you want to make sure, the procedure is quite easy.

Aside from humidity, is it also important to regulate the temperature to avoid fungus growth?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: creationz on April 03, 2007, 08:58:18 AM
Do I need to calibrate a digital hygrometer? I bought one from infoxmax and its always in the 24-26 rh%


sadly the ones sold in infomax cant be calibrated by means of changing the value.... so you have to compensate on getting the correct readings.

When i first got my hygrometer... i did the salt test which was to get the hygrometer to exactly 75rh max.... but my hygrometer was just reading 67-68 rh... so the difference is -7 to -8... so whenever i get a reading...i just add up 7-8.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: vcuares on April 03, 2007, 05:34:32 PM
Hi, I keep my camera only in a camera bag and I take it out of the room at night when the air con is on. At times in hotel rooms outside the country, the lens moists or fogs up because of the temperature change due to the aircon ditioning. Is this damaging to the lens? or can you just wipe the fog off?

thanks for your advice!

My guess is that it does, maybe on a picture quality standpoint. Canon Lens manuals recommend that you put them on a plastic ziplock to "acclimatized the lens" when you expect temperature changes.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: dakeldani on April 05, 2007, 07:43:18 AM
Is it safe to put Batteries and Memory Cards in the Dry Box as well?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Sagittarian Shooter on April 20, 2007, 05:57:14 PM
This thread is really usefull...finally got myself my own DIY dry box which i got from SM MOA. Its a Kilp Fresh 11.2L container for only Php399.75, and a regular Hygrometer, from SM Manila for only Php90.00 (its on sale-less 50%)  ;D

I just have some questions that im sure a lot of the membes can help...before putting in the camera inside I did some testing first.  I got the ff results:

Silica       Temp         Humidity
Room Temp 32°                58%
4 pouces       31°                38%
2 pouces       32°                42%
1 pouch       32°                58%


But after 3 days and after attaching the hygrometer in the lead cover of the container (using glue gun & mighty bond). with all the 4 packs inside, sealed, the humidity seems to be on the 58-60% level....

Im using a Solpak Desicants and its newly bought....

Questions:

1.  Do I need to "recharge" the Silica pouches?
2.  Is the humidity reading gets affected when the meter is placed  far from the silica pouches?

Thanks in advance guys...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: creationz on April 20, 2007, 06:02:21 PM
why not calibrate your hygrometer first and check if its accurate....

using a small airtight container.... place about a table spoon (or more) of salt on a jar cover....add water so it would have a texture like wet sand (doesnt have to be dilluted)...place it inside the airtight conatainer and close it....wait for maybe 6-8 hours and you should have a rh measurement of 65. if not then just add or subtract the difference in the actual reading.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Sagittarian Shooter on April 23, 2007, 07:28:30 PM
Thank you po sir creationz...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: karloil on April 23, 2007, 09:07:38 PM
Is it safe to put Batteries and Memory Cards in the Dry Box as well?

yes!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: marco_30D on April 24, 2007, 11:42:59 AM
When i first got my hygrometer... i did the salt test which was to get the hygrometer to exactly 75rh max.... but my hygrometer was just reading 67-68 rh... so the difference is -7 to -8... so whenever i get a reading...i just add up 7-8.
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creatonz, How exactly do you do the salt testing? What are the things needed in this test and the procedures? Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: marco_30D on April 24, 2007, 11:48:48 AM
creatnz, sorry I didn't see that you already expalined the procedures. Thanks! :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: whitemug on April 26, 2007, 09:13:06 AM
got myself a sigma 70-200 lens last week, so i guess the next investment for me would be a dry box, eh?  so far, i 've got my 350d, kit lens, 430ex speedlite, bg-e3 grip, and this lens to store.

from what i've read here (and gaganda ng suggestions), i see several options:
1) DIY box (e.g. lock-and-lock) with a separate hygrometer and/or several bags of silica gel
2) dry box with a built-in hygrometer
3) camera bag with several silica gel bags (if you're on the move)

maybe you can provide some price updates for the options above (of course, for option 3, it'll be more of the price of silica gel packs, eh?).  tried checking out the price inquiries thread here, pero kulang ng updated info dun.

thanks in advance!  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: creationz on April 26, 2007, 10:46:46 AM
21 litter lock and lock- 1100pesos in sm department stores(food utensil section)

drybox with hygrometer- 2500-4500 pesos (i think there is a member selling one version of this)

auto dry cabinet- 5000 up (aperture trading)

silica gel (you still need this for the drybox) ranges from 8 pesos up...you could get 2 medium bags of this costing around 40 pesos each.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: marco_30D on April 28, 2007, 09:16:52 AM
as of Apr.25,2007

21 liters Lock n Lock Php 1200 fr SM Mega mall
Digital Hygrometer fr Infomax Php 750
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: marco_30D on April 28, 2007, 10:13:17 AM
What is the ideal RH%? Is it bad if it's to low, like 20%-30% RH? And what is the temperature should be? Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pubert on April 28, 2007, 10:33:48 AM
i think going below 30% RH may be too low... i read somewhere on this thread (i think) na kapag sobrang baba the lubricants in the camera and lens might dry up.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: DvL on April 28, 2007, 01:49:12 PM
What is the ideal RH%? Is it bad if it's to low, like 20%-30% RH? And what is the temperature should be? Thanks! :)

Normal room temperature. And keep away from direct sunlight.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: marco_30D on April 28, 2007, 11:33:03 PM
Tnx pubert & DVL! :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: whitemug on May 03, 2007, 09:15:42 AM
looks like a lock-n-lock box is a good, and cheaper, alternative to buying an actual drybox or autodry cabinet.

sm appears to be the place to get the L-n-L (no problem there).  how about the digital hygrometer - apart from going to hidalgo, is infomaxx the best place to get one, our would sm also be a good choice?

how about the silica gel packs, can i also get them at sm?

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: creationz on May 03, 2007, 10:14:56 AM
looks like a lock-n-lock box is a good, and cheaper, alternative to buying an actual drybox or autodry cabinet.

sm appears to be the place to get the L-n-L (no problem there).  how about the digital hygrometer - apart from going to hidalgo, is infomaxx the best place to get one, our would sm also be a good choice?

how about the silica gel packs, can i also get them at sm?



i havent seen a digital hygrometer being sold in sm department stores. the analog hygrometers with the clock seems to be inaccurate. so i guess infomax is the only shop i know selling digital hygrometers.

for the silica gel packs....havent seen sm selling silica gel packs. i think true value is selling silica gel...but i would probably by them in hidalgo to be sure. And remember dont put those room dehumidifier in your drybox.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pubert on May 03, 2007, 10:24:16 AM
sa Fuma stalls sa mga mall seems to have a better quality analog hygrometer based on "appearance" lang compared to the SM clock/hygro combo -not sure though if its more accurate.

The digital hygrometer selling at infomax is also available at Rustans... same brand. pero parang mas expensive by 50 pesos yata -just in case out of stock yung sa Infomaxx.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: whitemug on May 03, 2007, 06:35:42 PM
as of Apr.25,2007

21 liters Lock n Lock Php 1200 fr SM Mega mall
Digital Hygrometer fr Infomax Php 750

dropped by sm makati earlier today, and they told me that they didn't have any L-n-L box bigger than 11.5 liters.  since i was already there, and didn;t want the trip from the office to go to waste, i purchased the box that was there - P879. 

also got one of those rubber "non-slip" place mats while i was there.  figured that i could just cut it to the right size and line the bottom of the box with it.  at least it provides my gear with a softer surface to lay on.

as for the hygrometer, i asked infomaxx - park square how much it was and the guy said it was P800.  how come there's a P50 difference in the price?  eventually opted not to get it (probably some other time).
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: chubbycortex on May 18, 2007, 12:29:31 PM
I realized how impotant dryboxes after some episodes with my older lenses. anyways, is there a portable one of some sort. when I was in cambodia, it was exteremely humid to a point that Ive noticed very small spores within a week  :o

they been taken cared of already. but what do you think can we do when travelling to humid countries short time? a portable or small DIY drybox? o just bring descants and just buy airtight containes there so you dont have to lug everything along?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: presley on May 18, 2007, 05:08:44 PM
Ano po ba mas accurate, analog hygrometer sa Blade or Digital sa Infomaxx?
Yun po bang digital e meron battery indicator, accurate pa kaya reading kahit humina na battery? Thanks

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: presley on May 18, 2007, 05:24:16 PM
Pahabol ulit, di ko kasi ma-figure out kung in the long run ano mas practical gamitin at yung makakatipid talaga ako:
1. Mag DIY ng dry box or
2. Bili nalang nung dry box with electric moisture absorber sa True Value costing around 2.7k ata
Thanks ulit. :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: motogpph on May 18, 2007, 05:26:10 PM

as for the hygrometer, i asked infomaxx - park square how much it was and the guy said it was P800.  how come there's a P50 difference in the price?  eventually opted not to get it (probably some other time).

had the same experience, but when they found out i will pay with cash, they gave me a discount of P50.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: masterjecht on May 18, 2007, 05:54:48 PM
there are some silica gels in handy man in Farmers, Cubao...i think its around 60 Pesos per box...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jack on May 21, 2007, 03:39:10 PM
I've also been using Lock and lock as an improvised dry box. I'm using calcium chloride bought from the 88 store as desiccant. I'm also trying out some spare Drierite from our lab.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Alfalfameister on May 22, 2007, 07:09:27 AM
I'm using calcium chloride bought from the 88 store as desiccant. 

Do a search on using calcium chloride as the dessicant (it's not good)... stick to the silica gels.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jack on May 22, 2007, 08:58:29 AM
I have. Most are worried about water spillage. Not really an issue for me but since I'm using a combination of calcium chloride, Drierite and now silica gel, I can probably throw away the calcium chloride once it gets a little moist.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nitro on May 22, 2007, 10:50:20 AM
I have. Most are worried about water spillage. Not really an issue for me but since I'm using a combination of calcium chloride, Drierite and now silica gel, I can probably throw away the calcium chloride once it gets a little moist.

i think the real issue is with calcium chloride being a corrosive compound.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: porky on May 22, 2007, 11:43:49 AM
galing ng mga DIY Drybox.  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: caycs on May 22, 2007, 12:11:26 PM
patanong naman po...newbie lang sa drybox and silica gel. Yun bang nabibiling silica gel sa true value na naka pack in small transparent packages e aalisin mo sa plastic yung maliliit na silica or pwede syang gamitin na nasa loob ng packs? Another question, yun bang mga anti moisture na kasama ng mga electronics item galing abroad is safe to use also for our camera gears? sensya na po sa mga tanong ko tamad ng magbasa ng thread pabalik hehehehe 
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jays on May 28, 2007, 06:00:37 PM
I bought this simple and relatively cheap drybox in Singapore (@ Courts) just this weekend for SGD 16.90 or about P525.

http://www.digihub.com.sg/SubCategoryList.aspx?MainCategoryID=15
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: 3kings on May 28, 2007, 08:38:10 PM
hi do you have the exact address of the shop?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: lordseph on May 29, 2007, 06:30:46 PM
you can get the hygrometer at fuuma
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: lordseph on June 01, 2007, 11:41:38 PM
question lang guys, whats better ba talaga? the analog or the digital? mura lang kasi yung analog sa fuuma eh. its only 380 bucks. also, would you guys know one that is airtight like the lock and lock pero may handle sa taas? last, regarding the silica gel, should i unwrap the packs?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pubert on June 01, 2007, 11:49:58 PM
i don't know the anwer to the other questions but the 10L lock and lock has a handle on top.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: lordseph on June 02, 2007, 10:49:55 AM
thanks pubert, that answer helps parin naman eh  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bones on June 02, 2007, 06:31:03 PM
patanong naman po...newbie lang sa drybox and silica gel. Yun bang nabibiling silica gel sa true value na naka pack in small transparent packages e aalisin mo sa plastic yung maliliit na silica or pwede syang gamitin na nasa loob ng packs? Another question, yun bang mga anti moisture na kasama ng mga electronics item galing abroad is safe to use also for our camera gears? sensya na po sa mga tanong ko tamad ng magbasa ng thread pabalik hehehehe 

regarding the silica packs from true value. You dont have to take out the silica beads from the small plastic packs. The plastic packs do have holes for the moisture to enter into.

In my experience, the silica packs that come with electronics are safe. The ones that I have tried have small silica beads inside.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: cryotech on June 07, 2007, 12:11:15 AM
Parehas ba yang Silica Gels sa Dessicants? Meron kasi akong malaking desicant sa office (which came from a server box), ang laman nya imbes na yung bilog-bilog na matigas e parang Gel or something na liquid, pwede ko kayang gamitin sa DIY Dry box ko? Tutal galing naman sya sa server box e.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: whitemug on June 07, 2007, 10:28:26 AM
question lang guys, whats better ba talaga? the analog or the digital? mura lang kasi yung analog sa fuuma eh. its only 380 bucks.
i got the digital one from infomaxx, mainly because i don't need to calibrate it anymore, unlike to analog one.

more of convenience talaga yung reason ko.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Kun3ho on June 07, 2007, 02:06:29 PM
baka may pic kau mga sir nung drybox sa Truevalue worth 2,xxx ......... feedback po pls,ok ba yun?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Blue Daddy Lion on June 09, 2007, 05:44:41 PM
Just got a Eureka drybox at Aperture for P5k
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: rsh78ph on June 14, 2007, 09:17:26 PM
Oh no... Been reading this forum and I leave my camera and lenses in a bag. I turn tha a/c at night and shut it off in the morning and open up all the windows. Most glass in my room would fog up due to the shift in temp.

So I need a Lock n Lock from SM
Silica Gel from Ace or True Value
Hygrometer at Blade

Tama ba?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: rocketpunch on June 15, 2007, 05:35:19 PM
baka may pic kau mga sir nung drybox sa Truevalue worth 2,xxx ......... feedback po pls,ok ba yun?

Yeah, can anyone upload a pic and post a short review?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Big Daddy on June 18, 2007, 12:34:41 AM
I bought a Hygrometer from infomax 6 days ago. Before building my own DIY dry box, I decided the measure the shifts in room temp and RH in my bedroom. Room temp and RH values ranges from 21 degrees celcius and 23% RH to 30 degrees and 54% RH.

Given these values, do you guys think I absolutely need to get a dry box ASAP? I'm trying to save money to buy an electronic dry box and was kinda hoping that I would'nt need to spend money on putting together a DIY set up before that.

Any recommendations or suggestion would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: IganC on June 19, 2007, 01:58:56 PM
question lang guys, whats better ba talaga? the analog or the digital? mura lang kasi yung analog sa fuuma eh. its only 380 bucks. also, would you guys know one that is airtight like the lock and lock pero may handle sa taas? last, regarding the silica gel, should i unwrap the packs?

we just got a 21Liter L&L and HOMELIFE at ACE Hardware SM Makati. Hygrometer at Infomax, ParkSquare.

re: your question on L&L with handle. Yun nabili ko meron. meron din yun 10L L&L (and BIOKIPS brand) and its available at 4F SM Makati. we got the 21Li for future provisions.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: powerpee on June 21, 2007, 10:54:10 AM
i got the VM drybox, i can't get it to go lower that 55. it always in between 55-60. pagod na ko magpump ng air tsaka tumatama yung pump sa lid kaya mag gagasgas. safe pa naman basta lower than 60 right?

according to the manufacturer reading of the hygro should be 60 and below. I've used mine for more than 4 months now and it always stays somewhere between 50 - 60... rarely do I get a 45 or so... never had any problems so far :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: MSWong on July 09, 2007, 10:55:12 AM
whoa...really helps viewing posts in here,now I know where to buy a sillica gel...thanks guys
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: skylab on July 10, 2007, 08:11:17 AM
Just wondering? what about pelican cases? can they protect it from moisture also?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: krusher on July 12, 2007, 05:55:50 PM
got myself a Eureka dry box from aperture, anu ba ang ideal range ng temperature?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: CMT on July 12, 2007, 06:53:57 PM
Just wondering? what about pelican cases? can they protect it from moisture also?

It is air tight but if your only purpose is a dry box, you might as well buy the electric type. A Pelican 1550 can cost around 10k locally.

What I do is put all my gear inside my Slingshot AW 300 with a dessicant and put it inside my Pelican 1550.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: skylab on July 15, 2007, 12:19:30 PM
Thanks carlo...i was thinking it could serve dual purposes since  i am mostly mobile...i usually take 3 cams with me..one is a mamiya 645, so, i cant take all three in one bag..with a pelican case..i can feel much safer to check it in in planes. so, a pelican case with a dessicant can serve as a dry box with proper dessicants?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: CMT on July 16, 2007, 04:20:21 PM
Thanks carlo...i was thinking it could serve dual purposes since  i am mostly mobile...i usually take 3 cams with me..one is a mamiya 645, so, i cant take all three in one bag..with a pelican case..i can feel much safer to check it in in planes. so, a pelican case with a dessicant can serve as a dry box with proper dessicants?

Yes, make sure the air-release is closed para airtight.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: skylab on July 16, 2007, 05:53:41 PM
Thank you...:)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jnx414 on July 16, 2007, 06:41:14 PM
I bought this simple and relatively cheap drybox in Singapore (@ Courts) just this weekend for SGD 16.90 or about P525.

[url]http://www.digihub.com.sg/SubCategoryList.aspx?MainCategoryID=15[/url]


i got this as well. murang mura.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: PlanB on July 17, 2007, 06:47:33 PM
Just got a Eureka drybox at Aperture for P5k

gano kalaki  yung eureka dry box mo? may pix or model number ka? TIA
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: erniemac on July 17, 2007, 09:27:42 PM
Canon D-Zone is also selling dryboxes at PHP3,000.00.  They already have hygrometers and has a vacuum pump to keep out the moisture. 
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Big Daddy on July 18, 2007, 03:39:54 AM
I saw those dry boxes also. They look a lot like the VAM dryboxes from Echostore.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: erniemac on July 18, 2007, 09:11:42 AM
Yup, the brand is VAM.  Btw, where are the Echostores that you mentioned? Or are they online stores only? Pardon the ignorance.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Big Daddy on July 18, 2007, 10:05:54 AM
@ erniemac

I found echostore here in PiPho also. Try this link http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?board=77.0

BR,
Big Daddy
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: judell74 on July 19, 2007, 10:19:19 PM
Guys for your reference.....

I just got the "Wonderful Drybox Cabinet" 3 layer sya.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b161/judell74/others/IMGP0749.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b161/judell74/others/IMGP0742.jpg)

7.5k sya sa Twincell Mktg 3rd flr V-Mall Greenhills.




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Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Jargon on July 20, 2007, 12:07:47 AM
I use a Focus Optic dry cabinet that I bought at InfoMax, SM Megamall.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ymaps on July 28, 2007, 12:36:17 PM
how much is the Focus Optic dry cabinet? ;D TIA
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: skylab on July 28, 2007, 05:29:12 PM
@judell, good find pare. will check it out.

Ari
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ESM on July 28, 2007, 05:57:53 PM
Thanks carlo...i was thinking it could serve dual purposes since  i am mostly mobile...i usually take 3 cams with me..one is a mamiya 645, so, i cant take all three in one bag..with a pelican case..i can feel much safer to check it in in planes. so, a pelican case with a dessicant can serve as a dry box with proper dessicants?

did you mean to to check-in the pelican or as a carry-on? 
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: judell74 on July 28, 2007, 07:05:07 PM
@judell, good find pare. will check it out.

Ari

No probs *toink*! Kumusta na ba pareng ari? ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Jargon on July 28, 2007, 11:34:52 PM
how much is the Focus Optic dry cabinet? ;D TIA
About P10K
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: skylab on July 29, 2007, 12:53:01 PM
did you mean to to check-in the pelican or as a carry-on? 

check it in as luggage/baggage.

@judell  OT...ayos naman ako mayor..lapit na fiesta nyo..hehhe
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: waraijj on August 03, 2007, 04:13:04 PM
I've had my camera for 6 months and i've only learned about keeping the cam in a dry box today! what a doofus. anyways, do you think i can still run after - if there are any - living organisms inside my kit lens by getting my dry box today. btw, i've barely removed it from the body.
thanks!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: skylab on August 03, 2007, 07:14:34 PM
waraijj, If you normally use your camera, then its fine from fungus..fungus grow only if stored at extended times on humid temperature. But to be sure..its highly advisabe to have a drybox.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: waraijj on August 04, 2007, 10:18:37 PM
alrighty, thanks skylab! :D that's a relief.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Jargon on August 05, 2007, 04:20:05 AM
Since the relative humidity in the Philippines everyday is usually above 70% (94% the last time I checked), fungus growth is a constant threat to cameras, lenses and filters. So a dry box or dry cabinet is essential for storing your photography gear for long periods of time.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: joseph_abri on August 05, 2007, 05:24:30 AM
how much is a decent reasonably priced medium sized dry box in the market today, suggested brand, model, and where to buy because im getting one thanks
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: gpo74 on August 07, 2007, 07:51:21 PM
Just got a Eureka drybox at Aperture for P5k

ask ko lang. I recently got a dry box at aperture. I placed my camera stuffs in the drybox when I pluged and set the box to medium in the morning when I came home the reading was at 100% did I do something wrong?? I got scared so I took out all my camera stuffs and just left it on.
Title: Meron bang DIY na Drybox?
Post by: eral86 on August 08, 2007, 06:42:06 PM
guys! kindly post here if anyone of you know to make a DIY Drybox. thanx
Title: Re: Meron bang DIY na Drybox?
Post by: shuttercat on August 08, 2007, 06:48:32 PM
Simple lang yan. Bumili ka ng "Lock n Lock" box available sa mga department store, at lagyan ng silica gel bago isilid ang mga gear.
Title: Re: Meron bang DIY na Drybox?
Post by: architer on August 08, 2007, 06:48:57 PM
Meron bang DIY na Drybox?

oo naman.  ;D

this is a long thread, but you'll find what you're looking for. :)

http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=28.0
Title: Re: Meron bang DIY na Drybox?
Post by: eral86 on August 08, 2007, 06:56:34 PM
ano bang gngwa ng silica gel sa dry box?

dba merong electronic sa loob ng dry box?
Title: Re: Meron bang DIY na Drybox?
Post by: babygurl5 on August 08, 2007, 07:10:08 PM
un hygrometer :D
Title: Re: Meron bang DIY na Drybox?
Post by: babygurl5 on August 08, 2007, 07:15:23 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/niko_villegas/sets/72157594254560894/ you can check thise one )
Title: Re: Meron bang DIY na Drybox?
Post by: HartSord on August 08, 2007, 08:50:52 PM
Guys, can we continue this on the other thread, para di kalat ang discussion http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=28.0
Title: Re: Meron bang DIY na Drybox?
Post by: shuttercat on August 08, 2007, 08:57:40 PM
Please redirect na lang mods.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: architer on August 08, 2007, 09:00:20 PM
http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=17200.msg205581;topicseen#msg205581
to quote eral:

"ano bang gngwa ng silica gel sa dry box?

dba merong electronic sa loob ng dry box?"

simple lang yan bro, silica gels ina-absord ung humidity, ung electronic dun is ung hygrometer, ang ginagawa naman nun ay walang iba kundi i-measure ung humidity. may mga nabibiling ganun sa mga suking electronic shops..etc.

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: shuttercat on August 08, 2007, 09:36:01 PM
ask ko lang. I recently got a dry box at aperture. I placed my camera stuffs in the drybox when I pluged and set the box to medium in the morning when I came home the reading was at 100% did I do something wrong?? I got scared so I took out all my camera stuffs and just left it on.

You're supposed to plug in the drycab first with the dryness dial at medium, then place your gear after 8-12 hours once the cabinet istelf has dried out.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jinjin on August 11, 2007, 08:51:06 AM
bought an AM-Pro dry box at True Value Parksquare for only P7950 yesterday ;D

Equator 5
50 litres
Electronic with Auto light on and off
4 Compartments with 3 trays
Made in Singapore with local service center
1 year warranty

* let it dried out for 7 hrs first and when RH read 35 then placed my 400D, lenses, flash, and digicam inside.  Its sitting quite nicely and now reads 50RH ;D

Yung next model I think is around P10,950 and has lens foam on the tray that could hold the lenses firmly.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: gpo74 on August 12, 2007, 07:04:40 PM
You're supposed to plug in the drycab first with the dryness dial at medium, then place your gear after 8-12 hours once the cabinet istelf has dried out.
thanks for the input. will give it a try
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: burnok on August 12, 2007, 10:38:55 PM
Has anybody tried the small Am Pro dry box in true value? These are the plastic ones similar to Lock & Lock material but there's a hygrometer attached on the front. And there is a rechargeable Dehumidifier included. I need a cheap dry box and found this but was reluctant to buy right away because I'm not sure if this is a good buy. I don't want to make a DIY dry box, just found this on true value and got interested. But I wanna ask you guys first if anyone have already tried it.

The cheapest Am Pro Cabinet I have seen is 8K, and I think too expensive for me. I have heard about Wonderful dry box, but have not seen it yet.

TIA
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pubert on August 12, 2007, 11:04:13 PM
henry, wala akong info about the small Am Pro... but here's a photo of the Wonderful brand drybox i got from watson's a few month ago:

watson's is selling it for 6K natawadan ko ng 5.5K. adjustable hung height nung shelves btw. yung sa aperture na eureka may 10% discount pa as of last month so cheaper pa din yun ng konti.

([url]http://farm1.static.flickr.com/130/334814398_163db9dca5.jpg?v=0[/url])
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: burnok on August 12, 2007, 11:16:17 PM
mike ano yung nasa baba? silica gel ba yun parang patuka sa manok?  ;D

5.5K? hmmm mukhang pede. Less 10% sa apperture? Magkano ba ung pinakamura nilang Eureka? Ganyan din size katulad sayo? Maintenance Free ba yan?  :-\
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: judell74 on August 13, 2007, 12:53:33 AM
mike ano yung nasa baba? silica gel ba yun parang patuka sa manok?  ;D

5.5K? hmmm mukhang pede. Less 10% sa apperture? Magkano ba ung pinakamura nilang Eureka? Ganyan din size katulad sayo? Maintenance Free ba yan?  :-\


Guys for your reference.....

I just got the "Wonderful Drybox Cabinet" 3 layer sya.

([url]http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b161/judell74/others/IMGP0749.jpg[/url])

([url]http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b161/judell74/others/IMGP0742.jpg[/url])

7.5k sya sa Twincell Mktg 3rd flr V-Mall Greenhills.




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Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pubert on August 13, 2007, 08:45:27 AM
henry, yes, silica gel yun, pero i don't think its neccessary since may electric dehumidifier naman na built-in. Nilipat ko lang yun from my old DIY drybox. Maintenance free naman -it keeps the humidity between 35-45%. And it comes with a 1yr warranty.

I can't remember the exact price pero i think the small Eureka drybox from aperture is a bit cheaper. Its roughly the same size as the Wonderful brand but i chose Wonderful kasi may extra shelf (yung small drybox ng Eureka 1 shelf lang).

mike ano yung nasa baba? silica gel ba yun parang patuka sa manok?  ;D

5.5K? hmmm mukhang pede. Less 10% sa apperture? Magkano ba ung pinakamura nilang Eureka? Ganyan din size katulad sayo? Maintenance Free ba yan?  :-\
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jinjin on August 15, 2007, 10:37:20 PM
is the home life silica gel usually bought from true value and other supermarkets safe? These are the ones bought for P60+ I think. since i read in one forum that there are some types of desiccant that are corrosive to our gears and could really damage electronic equipment.  This is what I used together with my Am-pro Dry Cab?  Also do I still need to put this inside the cab even if its electronic already?

Kindly enlighten anyone.. ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: burnok on August 15, 2007, 10:44:15 PM
is the home life silica gel usually bought from true value and other supermarkets safe? These are the ones bought for P60+ I think. since i read in one forum that there are some types of desiccant that are corrosive to our gears and could really damage electronic equipment.  This is what I used together with my Am-pro Dry Cab?  Also do I still need to put this inside the cab even if its electronic already?

Kindly enlighten anyone.. ;D

I also would like to know this, Im using the same thing.  ;)

Where did you heard about it?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jinjin on August 15, 2007, 10:53:30 PM
I also would like to know this, Im using the same thing.  ;)

Where did you heard about it?

Saw a thread in DPP regarding dry boxes and silica gels.  Those that they say are corrosive are usually the ones that absorbs water but still unsure if this includes the same thing that we use.. ???
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: marlvin on August 16, 2007, 12:26:04 PM
which among the 3 brands ang mas sulit bilhin, Wonderful Drybox Cabinet AD-050, AM-Pro Equator 5, or Eureka drybox?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: heavencole on August 16, 2007, 02:52:35 PM
where do I put the hygrometer inside the DIY dry box, right?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jinjin on August 16, 2007, 06:47:02 PM
which among the 3 brands ang mas sulit bilhin, Wonderful Drybox Cabinet AD-050, AM-Pro Equator 5, or Eureka drybox?

Actually all of it does the same function so any of the 3 would do.  Its a matter of service and warranty na siguro.  A lot I think had :D already purchased Eureka since its cheaper although I think this is smaller compared to Wonderful and Am-Pro.  Additional info, Wonderful is made in China and Am-Pro is from Singapore.  I dont know about Eureka though.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: marlvin on August 16, 2007, 07:20:04 PM
Actually all of it does the same function so any of the 3 would do.  Its a matter of service and warranty na siguro.  A lot I think had :D already purchased Eureka since its cheaper although I think this is smaller compared to Wonderful and Am-Pro.  Additional info, Wonderful is made in China and Am-Pro is from Singapore.  I dont know about Eureka though.

i think eureka is made in taiwan. so mas maliit ba ang eureka compared to the am-pro and wonderful? can anyone verify this? tnx!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: presley on August 16, 2007, 11:10:27 PM
Bought a digital hygrometer at Infomax last sunday. Did try the salt test twice to check the accuracy of the hygrometer's reading; eto bale reading niya:

Test 1 (10:30pm - 7:30am)

Rh - 62       Temp 25.7
Min - 48              24.1
Max - 66             27.6

Test 2 (8am - 10pm)

Rh - 69        Temp 26.8
Min - 67               25.9
Max - 75              28.6

Ilan kaya value i-add or subtract ko para makuha correct reading? Tia. :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: damiel on August 18, 2007, 01:20:14 PM
pwede po ba silica gel sa mga camera sa loob ng dry box
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: topz on August 24, 2007, 08:54:35 PM
gusto ko na bumili nito para safe. Salamat sa mga post niyo marami ako natutunan.  :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: gatmig on August 25, 2007, 08:08:07 AM
For "Cabinet Type" dry Boxes, are there any maintenance work needed?  i.e. recharging the element, etc..
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jovijovijovi on August 29, 2007, 12:26:16 PM
hi! I recently got a cabinet type drybox and I am not so sure how to place my lenses inside. What is the best way to store lenses?

1) on thier side
2) with the filter side of the lens on the table
3) with the back side of the lens on the table

hope to hear your comments!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: topz on August 29, 2007, 01:25:08 PM
May sale ang lock and lock sa megamall.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: topz on August 30, 2007, 09:52:05 AM
Guys tanong ko lang kung ok naka expose ang silica gel? I mean binuksan ko yung packet niya and nilagay ko sa isang container. Ok lang ba yun? Mas effective kasi siya pag ganun eh and madaling e recharge using the oven. Thanks!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pubert on August 30, 2007, 10:20:51 AM
For "Cabinet Type" dry Boxes, are there any maintenance work needed?  i.e. recharging the element, etc..

wala na sir... just plug it in and set your desired setting (L-M-H) and that's it!


Guys tanong ko lang kung ok naka expose ang silica gel? I mean binuksan ko yung packet niya and nilagay ko sa isang container. Ok lang ba yun? Mas effective kasi siya pag ganun eh and madaling e recharge using the oven. Thanks!

yup! its ok. wala naman yatang problem if naka expose lang.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: topz on August 30, 2007, 01:16:23 PM
@pubert

Thanks bro! Mas effective kasi pag wala yung plastic and madaling e recharge hehe.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: xantrium on September 03, 2007, 08:33:55 AM
May sale ang lock and lock sa megamall.


nakabili din ako ng 10L and some cylindrical storage for lenses :) just put some paddings and silica gel
ayos na pag mag travel medyo hindi sya bulky naman.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/xantrium/Biokips_lens.jpg)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/xantrium/Bacteriafree_storage.jpg)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: quixilver on September 03, 2007, 09:17:01 AM
@xantrium,
pano mo malalaman yung RH ng individual lock n lock lens case?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: marlvin on September 03, 2007, 09:21:15 AM
thinking of getting a dry cabinet for gears. can anyone here post the dimensions of the wonderful, eureka, and am-pro dry cabinet? wanna know sana w/c is cheaper. tnx!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: aspirecaptured on September 04, 2007, 06:28:48 PM
Guys,pwede ba un oxygen absorber na nakukuha sa mga food like mooncakes maging alternative sa silica gels????
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: rspeed on September 04, 2007, 06:51:16 PM
ako ginawa ko ziplock plus silica gel. para di bulky tsaka pwede ilagay sa camera bag. di lang ako sure kung kasing effective ng DIY dry boxes. ???
Title: How about the Wonderful Airtight Plastic Drybox
Post by: bacchus_3 on September 04, 2007, 09:49:40 PM
Hi guys, I'm reading at this thread but I only found comments on the Wonderful Cabinet type.

I went to Greenhills last weekend and I saw this shop selling those Wonderful Cabinet dryboxes and they have an airtight version with an automatic RH regulator like the DIY boxes.  Has anyone tried it?  Any feedback?

I'm thinking of getting this one for my gear since I already have a budget to at least a worry free drybox setup with the electronic control.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pran on September 05, 2007, 10:45:04 AM
I'm using a square-type Biokips container (with handle) to store my camera gears plus plenty of silica gels inside.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pubert on September 05, 2007, 10:56:56 AM
thinking of getting a dry cabinet for gears. can anyone here post the dimensions of the wonderful, eureka, and am-pro dry cabinet? wanna know sana w/c is cheaper. tnx!

Wonderful Cabinet type -38 liter model (5.5K from watson's)

40 x 40 x 52 cm
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: marlvin on September 05, 2007, 11:53:18 PM
Wonderful Cabinet type -38 liter model (5.5K from watson's)

40 x 40 x 52 cm

tnx for the info...wud u know if this is as big as the eureka brand and am-pro equator 5???

m from cebu pa ka-c at am-pro lang available d2 from truevalue. wanna know if worth it to buy the am-pro or wonderful brand at paship nalng d2. :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: mionx on September 08, 2007, 12:47:50 AM
YO PARE...
 
where in greenhills? whats the name of the store? how much? im planning to buy a dry box on monday.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pviraysj on September 16, 2007, 01:37:35 PM
Following the lead of the earlier posts, at last I was able to purchase the following:

1. Lock & Lock (10 liters) for P487 which is the discounted price from the original 649.75 at SM Cubao.

2. Silica Gel (Home Life brand) for P64.75 containing 25 small packets at Ace Hardware, SM cubao basement. Interesting instructions at the back of box: Regeneration method: The color of the ventilate dampproof pear will gradually turn into red when it starts to absorb the moisture. It can be resused by drying it in (sic) the sun until the color changes back to blue. It has even suggestions for how many to use depending on the usage--electrical eqpt, wardrobe, etc.  :)

Unfortunately, I could not find a hygrometer neither in the SM men's accessories section as suggested in earlier posts nor at the ACE hardware.  :( Never mind, i will try the other places suggested the next time.


Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: golfcoachnoel on September 18, 2007, 08:59:21 AM
Gian, where'd you buy those cylindrical containers?

Thanks
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: J on September 18, 2007, 10:31:04 AM
guys, ano ba ang safest reading ng hygrometer dapat sa isang drybox? thanks!!

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jinjin on September 18, 2007, 08:09:53 PM
guys, ano ba ang safest reading ng hygrometer dapat sa isang drybox? thanks!!



40-60 RH is normal. ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jabba on September 21, 2007, 02:04:35 PM
can anyone recommend a big dry cabinet? say something that can handle 2 pro HDV cameras, 4 SLRs, half a dozen flashes and a dozen lenses?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: herbiesamson on September 21, 2007, 08:06:42 PM
ok ba ang wonderful na brand ng drybox or bag?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: J on September 22, 2007, 02:54:12 AM
thanks, jinjin! i appreciate that!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: heckler on September 27, 2007, 07:12:14 PM
just checking, is it better to put an electric drybox (eureka) in an airconditioned room or non-aircon? thanks
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: carlmira on September 29, 2007, 11:01:52 AM
second the question to Gian - where can we get those containers? I've been looking around but can't find any.

Also, will it be useless to put silica packs inside a camera bag?  I don't have a budget yet for a drybox so i just stuffed about 12 packs of silica in one of the dividers of my camera backpack.  The bag is stored in a cabinet in a room which is usually in aircondition at night.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: toti_s on September 29, 2007, 12:21:02 PM
sale ang lock & lock and biokips sa sm malls, less 25%. i chose biokips 11.6 liter over lock & lock, better quality ang handle @ 637 pesos discounted.


Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: creationz on October 01, 2007, 12:29:45 AM
question. What problems have you encountered with a eaureka dry cab and the wonderful dry cab?

If the dehumidifier in the dry cab gets broken is there someone who repairs them? ....can you bring it back to the distributers for repairs?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: aspirecaptured on October 01, 2007, 12:43:05 AM
sale ang lock & lock and biokips sa sm malls, less 25%. i chose biokips 11.6 liter over lock & lock, better quality ang handle @ 637 pesos discounted.

Sang sm mall ka bumili? Can you post pics of your drybox? I'll be buying narin kasi.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: toti_s on October 01, 2007, 01:11:22 AM
both lock & lock and biokips are on 25% sale in sm bacoor, sm near hidalgo also but some sizes out of stock na...sm megamall madami...you can buy also the P100 puzzle rubber mat as padding if you want, cut mo lang para umeksakto sa box.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: aspirecaptured on October 01, 2007, 01:24:28 AM
Nasa 600++ petot din ba un lock and load na 11.0++ liters?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: athlonfan on October 01, 2007, 01:35:32 AM
hi guys,

after numerous pages of reading here, I finally decided to DIY my own dry box...

1. Lock n Lock 9.0L = 499 minus 25%
2. Henry's big silica gel =100
3. Bubble wraps (as flooring and covered the lenses to prevent sudden bumps)
4. No hygrometer yet. I'll get one tomorrow from infomax (still choosing between a digital or an analog one)

May I ask lang po, is it ok if I cover the camera body and lenses with different bubble wraps? will it affect the effectivity of the drybox?

The reason I asked is because lahat halos ng nakita kong pix with DIY dryboxes walang protection ung lenses against bumping into each other.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: toti_s on October 01, 2007, 01:45:19 AM

May I ask lang po, is it ok if I cover the camera body and lenses with different bubble wraps? will it affect the effectivity of the drybox?

The reason I asked is because lahat halos ng nakita kong pix with DIY dryboxes walang protection ung lenses against bumping into each other.

i used yung parang rubber puzzle mat for kids...sa base ng box, i placed 3 layers...yung 2 layers sa taas, i made holes na exact size sa lenses ko...secured na for movement...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urfoolingmyleeg on October 01, 2007, 08:12:30 PM
Ey guys!

Decided to make my own drybox after reading all pages of this thread. Got a problem though...WALANG Lock & Lock 10L everywhere I go. Got the gel and the hygrometer na. Grabe SM, Ever, Shopwise, out of stock lahat. Isang saleslady nga sabi, "Anong lalagay niyo Sir? Camera?". Mukhang nakaencounter na siya ng maraming customers using it as dryboxes.

Would anyone know san pa merong stock? Thanks.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: aspirecaptured on October 01, 2007, 08:18:07 PM
Grabe SM, Ever, Shopwise, out of stock lahat. Isang saleslady nga sabi, "Anong lalagay niyo Sir?

sir san sm to? baka you are referring sa SM north?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urfoolingmyleeg on October 01, 2007, 08:32:24 PM
sir san sm to? baka you are referring sa SM north?


sa sm and shopwise cubao to. tom check out ko rin shopwise libis and hypermart next to tendesitas. sana meron talaga kasi yung reading ng meter sa room ko is 75! taas!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: aspirecaptured on October 01, 2007, 08:36:08 PM
sa sm and shopwise cubao to. tom check out ko rin shopwise libis and hypermart next to tendesitas. sana meron talaga kasi yung reading ng meter sa room ko is 75! taas!

tnx sa info. btw, ilan na pla lens mo?kapag 2 or more kailangan na talaga i-drybox
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urfoolingmyleeg on October 01, 2007, 08:48:09 PM
tnx sa info. btw, ilan na pla lens mo?kapag 2 or more kailangan na talaga i-drybox

all in all 3. kit lens, 50mm and 28-105mm. swerte nga na nadiscover ko tong forum and thread na to. Who knows what would have happened kung pinabayaan ko lang gear ko out in the open. BTW, meron kang real drybox or diy lang?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: brox on October 01, 2007, 09:05:35 PM
Ey guys!

Decided to make my own drybox after reading all pages of this thread. Got a problem though...WALANG Lock & Lock 10L everywhere I go. Got the gel and the hygrometer na. ........


Hi urf ( sori, haba kasi handle mo eh),

where did you get your hygrometer ?  and how much ?  cant seem to find one.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: aspirecaptured on October 01, 2007, 09:12:06 PM
all in all 3. kit lens, 50mm and 28-105mm. swerte nga na nadiscover ko tong forum and thread na to. Who knows what would have happened kung pinabayaan ko lang gear ko out in the open. BTW, meron kang real drybox or diy lang?
wala eh hahanap palang
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: toti_s on October 01, 2007, 09:32:10 PM
Ey guys!

Decided to make my own drybox after reading all pages of this thread. Got a problem though...WALANG Lock & Lock 10L everywhere I go. Got the gel and the hygrometer na. Grabe SM, Ever, Shopwise, out of stock lahat. Isang saleslady nga sabi, "Anong lalagay niyo Sir? Camera?". Mukhang nakaencounter na siya ng maraming customers using it as dryboxes.

Would anyone know san pa merong stock? Thanks.

madami ako nakita sa sm bacoor and sm megamall...but i purchased the biokips, mas ok kasi handle and size 11.6 liters, i think. i bought my hygrometer sa blade parksquare...naubos na yung 300 pesos kaya tag 500 na lang nabili ko yung may blue light, infomax sells digital hygrometer for 800.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: aspirecaptured on October 01, 2007, 09:40:46 PM
infomax sells digital hygrometer for 800.

Dati 700 pesos lang.. Dapat mas mura na...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urfoolingmyleeg on October 01, 2007, 10:13:24 PM

Hi urf ( sori, haba kasi handle mo eh),

where did you get your hygrometer ?  and how much ?  cant seem to find one.

ey brox, got mine at DIY shop for 229.75. its the onyx brand with a thermometer and hygrometer combo. look for it sa car section.  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urfoolingmyleeg on October 01, 2007, 10:14:54 PM
madami ako nakita sa sm bacoor and sm megamall...but i purchased the biokips, mas ok kasi handle and size 11.6 liters, i think. i bought my hygrometer sa blade parksquare...naubos na yung 300 pesos kaya tag 500 na lang nabili ko yung may blue light, infomax sells digital hygrometer for 800.

itot, kelan mo huling nakita sa megamall yung 10L? :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: toti_s on October 01, 2007, 10:28:15 PM
itot, kelan mo huling nakita sa megamall yung 10L? :)

last Friday...i bought a lock&lock beverage container that day. compare it with biokips kasi tapatan lang yung display nila. ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: aspirecaptured on October 01, 2007, 10:34:13 PM
last Friday...i bought a lock&lock beverage container that day. compare it with biokips kasi tapatan lang yung display nila. ;)

 ??? akala ko biokips? Or ibang item na lock and load din?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: toti_s on October 01, 2007, 10:41:22 PM
??? akala ko biokips? Or ibang item na lock and load din?

i don't think there's a 10L biokips, 11.6L lang....and i don't know bout lock and load...lock & lock lang po alam ko.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: aspirecaptured on October 01, 2007, 10:46:16 PM
Tnx again.. Confused... ::)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nickol on October 02, 2007, 12:56:44 AM
Maganda sana yung malaki na dry box yung parang cabinet mag kano kaya yun?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: marlvin on October 02, 2007, 12:51:50 PM
Maganda sana yung malaki na dry box yung parang cabinet mag kano kaya yun?

am-pro dry cabinets on display sa true value ayala. :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Maclover on October 02, 2007, 01:16:03 PM
New product update from EchoStore. Please click on the link below

20 liter Portable Drybox with Rechargeable Moisture Absorber (http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=19013.0)

We also carry the 11 liter VAM drybox  (http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=15498.0)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Kenji on October 02, 2007, 02:50:56 PM
What I use, bought it yesterday at the local camera shop.  Wonderful Dry Box.

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g237/pinoykenji/Photography/DSC07254.jpg)

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g237/pinoykenji/Photography/DSC07255.jpg)

Inside the box are D40 with 18-200mm VR lens, 55-200mm VR, 18-55mm, Sony DCR-SR60 HDD Videocam and the rechargeable silica gel pack.

I'm thinking of how to DIY a second layer/shelf inside.  Sayang kasi ang vertical space.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: geourgina on October 02, 2007, 03:07:26 PM
saan ba nakakabili ng moisture absorber lang?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: zenglebron on October 02, 2007, 03:22:49 PM
saan ba nakakabili ng moisture absorber lang?

True Value, Ace Hardware and Handyman - dun ako nakakita. electric type
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: marlvin on October 02, 2007, 03:28:51 PM
What I use, bought it yesterday at the local camera shop.  Wonderful Dry Box.

([url]http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g237/pinoykenji/Photography/DSC07254.jpg[/url])

([url]http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g237/pinoykenji/Photography/DSC07255.jpg[/url])

Inside the box are D40 with 18-200mm VR lens, 55-200mm VR, 18-55mm, Sony DCR-SR60 HDD Videocam and the rechargeable silica gel pack.

I'm thinking of how to DIY a second layer/shelf inside.  Sayang kasi ang vertical space.


magkano bili mo? and where? i think it's the same with the ones in echostore.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: quixilver on October 02, 2007, 03:34:11 PM
True Value, Ace Hardware and Handyman - dun ako nakakita. electric type

would you know how much they cost?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: zenglebron on October 02, 2007, 03:39:38 PM
would you know how much they cost?

sorry, sir. hindi ko na matandaaan kasi yung silical gel pack yung binili ko dahil mura. on the expensive side for sure. pero somewhere in this thread, someone posted it's around 800.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jack on October 02, 2007, 03:40:48 PM
145 pesos per pack.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Kenji on October 02, 2007, 05:08:24 PM
magkano bili mo? and where? i think it's the same with the ones in echostore.

Bought it here in Shanghai.  Roughly about P2,050 in recent exchange rates.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urfoolingmyleeg on October 03, 2007, 09:31:23 AM
guys,

Finally got all the equipment and was able to create my own drybox last night. My question is how much silica gel should be used to bring the RH within 40-60%? I got the Home Life brand as stated in this thread. Have already placed 12 small packets (1.5g each) inside and RH is still 70%! Kulang pa ba to?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: toti_s on October 03, 2007, 10:09:17 AM
guys,

Finally got all the equipment and was able to create my own drybox last night. My question is how much silica gel should be used to bring the RH within 40-60%? I got the Home Life brand as stated in this thread. Have already placed 12 small packets (1.5g each) inside and RH is still 70%! Kulang pa ba to?

The ideal is bet 40-60%, so kulang pa yan or you need to recharge the silica. I also have problems using the Home Life brand, mahirap pababain ang reading and i can't recharge it using the microwave. Kahit tanggalin ko sa plastic, di nag che-change yung color in microwave...white pa rin. Unlike yung binigay sa ken 3 years ago ( i dunno where it was bought ), the one you can buy per kilo...ang bilis. And you can easily notice pag wala ng charge, the color is orange to peach. After putting it inside the microwave for 1 min, it turns to deep blue color.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: toti_s on October 03, 2007, 10:26:16 AM
@finepix

i only use the this:

([url]http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/adjong/silica.jpg[/url])

silica gel cost only Php150 per kilo (bought at most chemical supply outlets) (ask any pharmacy or chem student).  it looks like transparent beads and are dry to touch.  i use plastic pill boxes wherien i drill 1/16-inch holes and place these inside the boxes.



I'm using silica similar to this except that mine has colors. I just can't remember the person who gave me these  gels para matanong ko kung saan binili. Balak ko na rin kasi palitan cuz I noticed, mabilis na siyang madischarge unlike before.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: toti_s on October 03, 2007, 10:35:16 AM

If anyone is interested in a lot of cheap silica gel, a chemical/glassware supply shop is still your best option. I bought 1 kilogram of silica gel recently for P130 (that's only 1.3 pesos per gram). I bought it from B.E. Scientific Glassware, U.P. Shopping Center, and they only sell it in 1 kilo bags. I inquired about the blue silica gel (which turns pink when saturated with moisture); turns out it costs 10 times more at P1,300 per kilo. It's only available on a per-order basis. Might be practical if several people split the cost.

There were no desktop clock hygrometers in SM North so I decided to just get the one from Fuma. Dunno if it's accurate but it certainly moves a lot. I placed it in a Nescafe bottle nearly full of silica gel and the needle swung from 42% to less than 20% in a few minutes.

Now I found it...ang layo pala, U.P. Diliman pa >:(
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: geourgina on October 03, 2007, 11:01:11 AM
I love Nori (the crispy flattened seaweed) and a pack has this Silica Gel as wide as the kit lens and weighs 0.062 5 kilogram = 2.204 622 622 ounce
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1110/1474568552_01e9b852e6_m.jpg)

I put the silica gel on a liter size box and the reading would be down from 90 to 40 in about 4hrs.

I use several 1 ltr containers and separate my gears according to use because whenever you open your container in sucks moisture back in.

A used up one would bloat
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1090/1474568248_7aec4eb86e_m.jpg)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urfoolingmyleeg on October 03, 2007, 11:08:08 AM
Now I found it...ang layo pala, U.P. Diliman pa >:(

thanks for the post itot! sablay nga yung home life! putek yan. fortunately, malapit samin yung UP! hehe. and alam ko yung up mall, madalas ako dun nung grade school pako. would anyone know ano store hours ng place and if open sa weekends? bili narin ako ng gel sa kanila.  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pviraysj on October 03, 2007, 03:47:06 PM
ey brox, got mine at DIY shop for 229.75. its the onyx brand with a thermometer and hygrometer combo. look for it sa car section.  ;D

Hi. Which DIY shop did you get your hygrometer? I went to DIY Gateway last week and they had no stock. Thanks for the information in advance.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urfoolingmyleeg on October 03, 2007, 04:01:44 PM
Hi. Which DIY shop did you get your hygrometer? I went to DIY Gateway last week and they had no stock. Thanks for the information in advance.

Sa DIY sa Eastwood marami. Just look in the automotive section. BTW, i noticed may 28-105 ka? eto ba yung USM II? Naghahanap lang ako ng katulad.  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: aspirecaptured on October 03, 2007, 08:23:11 PM
(http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/5295/img2170va8.jpg)

Using this oxygen absorber for a month na siguro. Medyo matigas na ngayon(build up na yata un silica gels).Does it mean na gumagana talaga siya? Pwede pa ba itong gamitin? Charge ko ba sa sun ok lang? Di daw pwede sa microwave..
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: toti_s on October 03, 2007, 08:49:20 PM
they say that the safest is the silica gel...other products like the dehumidifier has chemical components that are corrosive to the lens coating...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: HartSord on October 03, 2007, 08:57:21 PM
([url]http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/5295/img2170va8.jpg[/url])

Using this oxygen absorber for a month na siguro. Medyo matigas na ngayon(build up na yata un silica gels).Does it mean na gumagana talaga siya? Pwede pa ba itong gamitin? Charge ko ba sa sun ok lang? Di daw pwede sa microwave..


Uh, the usual absorber used is humidity (moisture) absorber, not oxygen. Hindi ko lang alam kung anong effect ng low oxygen sa fungi...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: aspirecaptured on October 03, 2007, 09:02:00 PM
Uh, the usual absorber used is humidity (moisture) absorber, not oxygen. Hindi ko lang alam kung anong effect ng low oxygen sa fungi...

So,di talaga siya oxygen kundi humidity absorber sir?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: HartSord on October 03, 2007, 09:08:48 PM
So,di talaga siya oxygen kundi humidity absorber sir?

Yes, that's why silica gel is normally used to prevent fungus growth.

Studies have shown that fungus grows best in humidities of 60% or higher, that's why it's recommended to keep the humidity below 50%.  In addition, humidity levels below 20% have a tendency to dry out the camera's and lenses' seals, so it's also recommended to stay higher than that.  Hence the recommended range of 20-50% humidity.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: russelcp on October 03, 2007, 09:12:24 PM
So,di talaga siya oxygen kundi humidity absorber sir?

Just a question: Why would you want to absorb oxygen? No sarcasm intended, just want to know if its related to any chemical reaction that may affect our lenses or camera gear.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: aspirecaptured on October 03, 2007, 09:15:02 PM
Yes, that's why silica gel is normally used to prevent fungus growth.

Studies have shown that fungus grows best in humidities of 60% or higher, that's why it's recommended to keep the humidity below 50%.  In addition, humidity levels below 20% have a tendency to dry out the camera's and lenses' seals, so it's also recommended to stay higher than that.  Hence the recommended range of 20-50% humidity.

Hope this helps.

Thanks sir! :D I read in some pages in this forum that the range should be 40-60%?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: aspirecaptured on October 03, 2007, 09:21:35 PM
Just a question: Why would you want to absorb oxygen? No sarcasm intended, just want to know if its related to any chemical reaction that may affect our lenses or camera gear.
Thanks.



I already post this oxygen absorber issue before but no one reacted. So I guess it is ok to use it. I wrote if it can be an alternative to silica gels and no violent reaction receive..
http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=28.690 (http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=28.690)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: brox on October 03, 2007, 09:22:55 PM
ey brox, got mine at DIY shop for 229.75. its the onyx brand with a thermometer and hygrometer combo. look for it sa car section.  ;D



thanks for the info, urf.    price is cheap, do you think it's acurrate now that you had a chance to use it ?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: HartSord on October 03, 2007, 09:27:23 PM
Thanks sir! :D I read in some pages in this forum that the range should be 40-60%?

Well, again, fungus grows best at 60%, so I'd keep below that.  If you can control it between 40-50%, that would be good, I guess.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: aspirecaptured on October 03, 2007, 09:31:12 PM
Well, again, fungus grows best at 60%, so I'd keep below that.  If you can control it between 40-50%, that would be good, I guess.

Thanks again.. ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: toti_s on October 03, 2007, 09:36:54 PM
i think oxygen absorber is being used in certain packages to eliminate growth of certain aerobic microbes, which can be helpful...but since your diy drybox is air sealed, i think you don't need it anymore... ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: russelcp on October 03, 2007, 09:40:47 PM
i think oxygen absorber is being used in certain packages to eliminate growth of certain aerobic microbes, which can be helpful...but since your diy drybox is air sealed, i think you don't need it anymore... ;)

Thanks for that info.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: aspirecaptured on October 03, 2007, 10:09:27 PM
i think oxygen absorber is being used in certain packages to eliminate growth of certain aerobic microbes, which can be helpful...but since your diy drybox is air sealed, i think you don't need it anymore... ;)

I place it inside my cam bag. ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: zenglebron on October 04, 2007, 01:26:39 AM


thanks for the info, urf.    price is cheap, do you think it's acurrate now that you had a chance to use it ?


You can calibrate the hygrometer to make it "accurate". link: http://exoticpets.about.com/od/herpresources/ss/hygrometer_7.htm (http://exoticpets.about.com/od/herpresources/ss/hygrometer_7.htm)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: CMT on October 04, 2007, 07:23:15 AM
One possible benefit of oxygen absorber is rust prevention. This is pure speculation lang since rust is iron oxide so presence of oxygen is needed for rusting/corrosion to occur.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pviraysj on October 04, 2007, 09:55:22 AM
Sa DIY sa Eastwood marami. Just look in the automotive section. BTW, i noticed may 28-105 ka? eto ba yung USM II? Naghahanap lang ako ng katulad.  ;D

Thanks for the info! Much appreciated. Yes, I believe it is USM II. I've had it for a long time when I was still using film. For me, it has been a decent lens although with the crop factor in the digital SLR, I am thinking of getting a lens that covers the wide angle. Enjoy your day.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urfoolingmyleeg on October 04, 2007, 11:08:14 AM
Was able to buy the silica gel from UP and man it works great!  ;D Sinubukan pa nga ako perahan ng tindera... P140 daw!  >:( Buti nalang i knew P130 siya from this thread. hehe. di ko natanong if may hygrometer sila though kasi i read a post na wala naman daw.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: russelcp on October 04, 2007, 06:13:52 PM
One possible benefit of oxygen absorber is rust prevention. This is pure speculation lang since rust is iron oxide so presence of oxygen is needed for rusting/corrosion to occur.

Yes that's a good benefit. I have to add that it should be in an airtight container since if air is still flowing the oxygen absorbers would easily be spent. Having it in your camera bag somehow lessens its efficiency since air can enter your bag through the pores in the cloth.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: creationz on October 04, 2007, 07:37:23 PM
Was able to buy the silica gel from UP and man it works great!  ;D Sinubukan pa nga ako perahan ng tindera... P140 daw!  >:( Buti nalang i knew P130 siya from this thread. hehe. di ko natanong if may hygrometer sila though kasi i read a post na wala naman daw.

just want to ask how much silica gel you got for that price. these are unpacked right? Also is the shop on the right side of UP shopping center...the one near the bank?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: brox on October 04, 2007, 09:46:20 PM
You can calibrate the hygrometer to make it "accurate". link: http://exoticpets.about.com/od/herpresources/ss/hygrometer_7.htm (http://exoticpets.about.com/od/herpresources/ss/hygrometer_7.htm)
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thanks for the link, bro.    will try the procedure this weekend.    :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: quixilver on October 04, 2007, 09:50:16 PM
You can calibrate the hygrometer to make it "accurate". link: [url]http://exoticpets.about.com/od/herpresources/ss/hygrometer_7.htm[/url] ([url]http://exoticpets.about.com/od/herpresources/ss/hygrometer_7.htm[/url])


thanks for the link!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: alpha-q on October 04, 2007, 10:55:47 PM
here are the helpful infos what humidity and level to control molds.

http://www.totechamerica.com/html/index_optics.php
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urfoolingmyleeg on October 04, 2007, 11:27:24 PM
just want to ask how much silica gel you got for that price. these are unpacked right? Also is the shop on the right side of UP shopping center...the one near the bank?

got it for P130! yup, it seems you know the place. basta yung bilihan ng test tube, as UP people know it. and its really worth it kasi 1 kilo na.  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: creationz on October 04, 2007, 11:57:51 PM
ahhh ok....thats a lot.... 1 kilo.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: brox on October 05, 2007, 10:08:42 PM
here are the helpful infos what humidity and level to control molds.

[url]http://www.totechamerica.com/html/index_optics.php[/url]




another helpful link.  thanks a lot alpha q
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: aris_delarea on October 08, 2007, 06:02:12 PM
Good Day! Mga Sir, question lang po(forgive my ignorance), what if mayroon ng fungus yung lens, mayroon pa bang  possibility na matangal ito? For prevention lang po ba yung dry box setup?
Tnx.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: akane on October 09, 2007, 06:26:02 AM
I got a kilo of silica gels from the UP Shopping Center for 110PhP, back in April.

@aris_delarea:  For prevention nga.  Pag meron na, pwede po ipalinis pero may kamahalan.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: brox on October 09, 2007, 10:43:43 PM
..... and even if you have a fungus-infested lens cleaned, there's no guarranty that it won't attract molds again.    besides, depending on the amount of fungus and the cleaning method used, cleaning might remove valuable special coatings which can lead to a degradation of the len's performance.    so this might turn into a lose-lose situation     :-[
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: karloil on October 09, 2007, 11:04:35 PM
Good Day! Mga Sir, question lang po(forgive my ignorance), what if mayroon ng fungus yung lens, mayroon pa bang  possibility na matangal ito? For prevention lang po ba yung dry box setup?
Tnx.

pwede pa matangal. and yes, prevention yung drybox.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: alpha-q on October 10, 2007, 08:30:42 PM
Better buy a drybox...sayang naman ang mga gears mo kapag inamag lang.  Yung akin dun nakalagay ung 2 p&s cameras ko, ipod, psp, extension tubes ko, my dads minolta slr and his lens. 
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: hybrid on October 11, 2007, 10:32:59 AM
I bought a box of silica gel, homeland I think from true value, this is how it looks like

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w236/digitalpac/Misc/IMG_1391s.jpg)

At 1st I thought that the gels aren't saturated since not all of them are red, or did they just scrimp on the material, that the other beads are not color coded, they only placed a couple of indicator beads and the others just doesn't change color.
Kasi at 1st I thought all the beads will change color.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urfoolingmyleeg on October 11, 2007, 12:57:08 PM
I bought a box of silica gel, homeland I think from true value, this is how it looks like

([url]http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w236/digitalpac/Misc/IMG_1391s.jpg[/url])

At 1st I thought that the gels aren't saturated since not all of them are red, or did they just scrimp on the material, that the other beads are not color coded, they only placed a couple of indicator beads and the others just doesn't change color.
Kasi at 1st I thought all the beads will change color.


i think the brand is homelife. i got the same one from ace hardware. i think the pink ones do indicate saturation. and it shows on the hygrometer. when i used "real" silica gel, the effect in my drybox dramatically increased. i'm about to throw these homelife ones out.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: hybrid on October 11, 2007, 01:59:29 PM
Thanks that's what I thought, saturated na.
So I'll just try to dry it up.

I was buying a hygrometer, and I couldn't decide w/c one is more accurate, I saw 3 types being sold, I was about to buy the bigger more expensive one, was thinking it was more accurate, good thing I saw the other stock they have (same item), iba yung reading, the discrepancy was like more than 10%!

so I opted to buy the cheaper one, at least pare-pareho sila ng reading, I bought this one

(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w236/digitalpac/Misc/IMG_1398s.jpg)

So I did the hygrometer salt test, question lang for the one who did this, when I try searching the net, the usual instructions does give an exact size of container/ziplock, or the amount of salt and water, how can we get an exact reading, since if I use a smaller ziplock or use a little bit more water (kasi damp lang yung description), wouldn't that affect the amount of humidity?

lock and lock box nalang ok na diy drybox ko
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urfoolingmyleeg on October 11, 2007, 02:24:29 PM
Thanks that's what I thought, saturated na.
So I'll just try to dry it up.

I was buying a hygrometer, and I couldn't decide w/c one is more accurate, I saw 3 types being sold, I was about to buy the bigger more expensive one, was thinking it was more accurate, good thing I saw the other stock they have (same item), iba yung reading, the discrepancy was like more than 10%!

so I opted to buy the cheaper one, at least pare-pareho sila ng reading, I bought this one

So I did the hygrometer salt test, question lang for the one who did this, when I try searching the net, the usual instructions does give an exact size of container/ziplock, or the amount of salt and water, how can we get an exact reading, since if I use a smaller ziplock or use a little bit more water (kasi damp lang yung description), wouldn't that affect the amount of humidity?

lock and lock box nalang ok na diy drybox ko

hybrid pareho tayo ng hygrometer.  ;D and same logic din ginamit ko, na consistent ng readings sa model na yan. with the salt test, i think theres a link with the thread na 1 tsp salt mixed with a few drops water so that it comes out like wet sand. ako i did the test twice just to be sure. found out na yung meter ko off by 10 units.

with the container, tried high and low to search for the lock and lock pero out of stock everywhere. i think photographers have all bought them based on this thread. i ended up buying a biokips 11.5L container. its a bit more expensive but i have no regrets. sakto yung space and the RH is maintained well. goodluck with the drybox!  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: hybrid on October 11, 2007, 04:15:21 PM
;D  you noticed the reading too... mine is off +7
I'll try to do the test again.
I guess lock and lock didn't bring in a lot of 9L up models, since they didn't think it will sell, not many people have a ref that they can fit a 12 or 21L box. ;D
So far the brands I have seen are biokips, lock and lock, and xeonic.

Actually I've seen this 10L lock and lock in handyman

(http://us.locknlock.com/photo/00244%5B210%5D(1).JPG)

the shape is odd, a dslr might fit if take out the lens and place it on it's back, I'm still thinking about it
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urfoolingmyleeg on October 11, 2007, 04:21:07 PM
hmm sige i'll try to sway you to buy the 11.5L biokips. post ako ng pic ng drybox ko when i get home.  :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: joel78 on October 11, 2007, 10:44:51 PM
mga sir san ba bumubili ng hygrometer around sa vicinity ng Q.C. specifically fairview?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: hybrid on October 11, 2007, 11:02:53 PM
joel78,
Some have bought it from sm department store, I got mine from a car accessories shop. you just have to look for it, since the sales lady won't know what it is, sasabihin lang sayo wala sila nun. maybe you can try to ask for a temperature guage, and try look in that area
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: joel78 on October 11, 2007, 11:11:49 PM
ok thanks sir hybrid! ;) Also, how did you know na off by +7 yung meter nyo po? Is there any accurate hygrometer? Thanks
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: hybrid on October 11, 2007, 11:40:19 PM
ok thanks sir hybrid! ;) Also, how did you know na off by +7 yung meter nyo po? Is there any accurate hygrometer? Thanks

by doing the salt test, try to search for it on the net or backread this thread
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: joel78 on October 12, 2007, 12:26:05 AM
I saw a drybox that sells for only 1,250 at sm fairview. Made in china. Package includes a built in hygrometer and a reachargeable dehumidifier thingy. Do you think ok lang sya kahit made in china? I'll try to go back tomorrow to get pics of the said box.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urfoolingmyleeg on October 12, 2007, 09:06:07 AM
I saw a drybox that sells for only 1,250 at sm fairview. Made in china. Package includes a built in hygrometer and a reachargeable dehumidifier thingy. Do you think ok lang sya kahit made in china? I'll try to go back tomorrow to get pics of the said box.

hmm, i've heard from some that hindi entirely safe mga dehumidifier sa mga equipment mo. reason i went with silica gel kasi its the safest. if you're going for a non-DIY drybox, might as well add a little more cash and get a reliable one.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: HartSord on October 12, 2007, 10:04:01 AM
hmm, i've heard from some that hindi entirely safe mga dehumidifier sa mga equipment mo. reason i went with silica gel kasi its the safest. if you're going for a non-DIY drybox, might as well add a little more cash and get a reliable one.

I think he's referring to the electric dehumidifier, not the chemical type (e.g. Hungry Hippo).  The chemical ones can corrode your gear, but the electronic ones should be fine.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: joel78 on October 12, 2007, 10:45:38 AM
Yup, I was referring to the black electronic dehumidifier found also in high end drybox's. I'll be going to SM later to take photos of the said drybox. yuanggang ata brand.  ;D taiwan o china made ata. ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urfoolingmyleeg on October 12, 2007, 11:11:36 AM
Yup, I was referring to the black electronic dehumidifier found also in high end drybox's. I'll be going to SM later to take photos of the said drybox. yuanggang ata brand.  ;D taiwan o china made ata. ;)

ahh thats good. joel saang store to sa sm fairview? commonwealth boy din kasi ako.  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: creationz on October 12, 2007, 11:42:22 AM
I bought my dehumidifier at twincell at Vmall greenhills. its the next biggest size (gave my old one to my dad for his fishing equipment since my gear cant fit in the small cabinet no more. sold for 7800-8000 pesos but got it for only 7000 pesos. model number AD-050C. It has three trays. The smallest one is beeing sold for 5700 pesos....and there are a lot of cases like pelican...but much more cheaper. For the rechargeable Dehumidifier(silica gels strored in hard plastic case that you can plug for recharging the gels)....they are being sold for 650 pesos.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urfoolingmyleeg on October 12, 2007, 12:37:26 PM
creationz, san banda yung twincell sa vmall?  :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: joel78 on October 12, 2007, 02:04:58 PM
urfoolingmyle sa kameraworld malapit sa watsons. Umulan dito kaya di pa ako makapunta. Maybe in a while. ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: creationz on October 12, 2007, 02:33:47 PM
creationz, san banda yung twincell sa vmall?  :)

3rd floor of Vmall....its where the computer stores are.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: hybrid on October 12, 2007, 10:35:42 PM
Has anyone experience this w/ drying the silica gels
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w236/digitalpac/Misc/Silica.jpg)

they turned white, not clear, parang nabasa. I just dried via sunlight, I'm going to dry it still tomorrow to see what happens
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: joel78 on October 13, 2007, 11:50:13 AM
May nabibili pala na silica gel half kilo ata or 1. Sa Columbia sa SM North EDSA 120 lang ata.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: cruzron on October 13, 2007, 12:25:25 PM
I just bought the 1 kilo silica gels from up shopping center yesterday. thanks for the tip!  :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Marcel on October 13, 2007, 01:13:04 PM
I bought my dehumidifier at twincell at Vmall greenhills. its the next biggest size (gave my old one to my dad for his fishing equipment since my gear cant fit in the small cabinet no more. sold for 7800-8000 pesos but got it for only 7000 pesos. model number AD-050C. It has three trays. The smallest one is beeing sold for 5700 pesos....and there are a lot of cases like pelican...but much more cheaper. For the rechargeable Dehumidifier(silica gels strored in hard plastic case that you can plug for recharging the gels)....they are being sold for 650 pesos.

I got my Wonderful AD-040 dry cabinet (mentioned by creationz as the P5,700 one) from Twincell. They have smaller dryboxes too. I'm happy with my purchase with additional peace of mind that I can just put in stuff and not have to adjust settings to maintain constant humidity.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: toti_s on October 13, 2007, 01:23:50 PM
to those who will make their diy drybox...don't buy the hygrometer that sm sta cruz (near hidalgo) sells. they have cheap hygro for 90 pesos only...madami nakadisplay pero different readings...di mo malaman kung alin ang tama.

i bought one, for the clock...yung hygro, di nagbabago reading...lol ;D well, i don't need one. the one i bought from blade parksquare is working well...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nap on October 14, 2007, 01:14:20 AM
I just bought the 1 kilo silica gels from up shopping center yesterday. thanks for the tip!  :)

Ako, a few days ago! Bumili din ako ng cheesecloth dun sa same shop para naman makagawa ako ng mga small bags of silica gel. :)

@Joel78, picturan mo nga! At saang store yun? another batang commonwealth here! Baka mas ok pa yun kesa bibili ako ng 10L lock&lock. :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jinjin on October 14, 2007, 08:21:38 AM
I bought as well a kilo of silica gel at Scientific sa UP center for P130 yesterday. 
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urfoolingmyleeg on October 14, 2007, 11:42:50 AM
Ey guys, im posting a pic of my drybox. Used a Biokips 11.5L container. Got my silica gel from UP then put them in small containers with holes. I also got a table mat for the flooring, which I custom fitted. hygrometer is the onyx brand from DIY shop.

Thanks to this thread, I also recently got a rechargeable mositure absorber from twincell, which i'm going to use once my supply of silica gel expires.

hope this inspires other to make their own DIY dryboxes. making it was really challenging and fun.  ;D

(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l113/urfoolingmyleeg/drybox.jpg)

(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l113/urfoolingmyleeg/moist.jpg)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: joel78 on October 14, 2007, 05:05:14 PM
Sir saang DIY shop mo nabili yung hygrometer? Also, saan ba yung twincell?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urfoolingmyleeg on October 14, 2007, 05:55:25 PM
Sir saang DIY shop mo nabili yung hygrometer? Also, saan ba yung twincell?

got my hygrometer sa eastwood branch. wala masyado tao dun kaya well stocked pa sila. twincell naman nasa 3rd floor ng virramall, sa mga computer stuff. dali lang hanapin kasi sila lang may display ng mga dryboxes.  :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: backdraft on October 15, 2007, 12:23:40 AM
SInce I still dont have a drybox, where is the better place to store my cam?

a. Inside a cabinet in an Airconditioned room for 12 hours

or

b. In a cabinet in a Fan cooled room with windows

Thanks!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urfoolingmyleeg on October 15, 2007, 12:51:43 AM
SInce I still dont have a drybox, where is the better place to store my cam?

a. Inside a cabinet in an Airconditioned room for 12 hours

or

b. In a cabinet in a Fan cooled room with windows

Thanks!

I'd probably go with the fan cooled room. kasi i notice my RH reading to be quite high when i have the A/C turned on.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: toti_s on October 15, 2007, 01:19:07 AM
SInce I still dont have a drybox, where is the better place to store my cam?

a. Inside a cabinet in an Airconditioned room for 12 hours

or

b. In a cabinet in a Fan cooled room with windows

Thanks!


in containers where light can pass through...hate ng fungi ang light... you can place your lenses in an empty transparent bottle like nescafe, then better put small sachet of silica gels then cover it...instant drybox ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: athlonfan on October 18, 2007, 05:24:55 AM
guys just a reminder, always recharge your silica gels. Make sure your hygrometer is calibrated or if not adjustable, make sure you know how off is your reading so you dont damage your stuff.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: tebs on October 18, 2007, 03:42:30 PM
joel, how much yung rechargeable moisture absorber? :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: edwin_sn on October 18, 2007, 06:09:05 PM
got this tip from a  friend... for lenses na you think matagal mo pang gamitin and you dont have a dry box, balutin mo nga newspaper and store it in its original box kung nandyan pa. the newspaper with its carbon content (because of the ink yata) can reduce the posibility of fungi growth. makes sense to me.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: inggaybes on October 22, 2007, 11:36:02 AM
I saw a drybox that sells for only 1,250 at sm fairview. Made in china. Package includes a built in hygrometer and a reachargeable dehumidifier thingy. Do you think ok lang sya kahit made in china? I'll try to go back tomorrow to get pics of the said box.
sir san po sa sm nyo nakita itong drybox? ill try to check it later. tnx!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nightkids_racing on October 22, 2007, 11:47:19 AM
Quote
in containers where light can pass through...hate ng fungi ang light... you can place your lenses in an empty transparent bottle like nescafe, then better put small sachet of silica gels then cover it...instant drybox

Quote
got this tip from a  friend... for lenses na you think matagal mo pang gamitin and you dont have a dry box, balutin mo nga newspaper and store it in its original box kung nandyan pa. the newspaper with its carbon content (because of the ink yata) can reduce the posibility of fungi growth. makes sense to me.

ok tong dalawang ito ah... i'll be purchasing my dslr next week and wala ako pambili ng drybox. maliwanag naman sa kwarto ko eh... malamang yung unang advice yung magagamit ko for the lens... yung body... di ko alam... sana makakuha ako ng malaking garapon sa tindahan ng lola ko para maging drybox... lagyan ko na lang ng silica gel...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: brothermoe on October 22, 2007, 05:04:29 PM
Hay hay hay. Just when you thought you had everything you needed... :(

I just store my camera and lenses inside a camera bag.

I guess that will have to change soon. Itatakas ko nalang yung toy box nung pamangkin ko pag di nakatingin yung magulang. Bwahahaha! ::)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: joel78 on October 24, 2007, 08:45:44 PM
sir san po sa sm nyo nakita itong drybox? ill try to check it later. tnx!

SM fairview sa Kamera world.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: inggaybes on October 25, 2007, 11:12:14 AM
hi to all.. kamustahin ko lng lahat ng gumagamit ng wonderful auto dry cabinets.. ok ba ito?
 ano ma suggest nyo na model? and where to buy. tnx!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: creationz on October 25, 2007, 11:41:14 AM
yes... been using it. ok naman. automatic.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: edwin_sn on October 25, 2007, 05:33:55 PM
will a PELICAN or STORMCASE be use as a drybox for lenses considering that these are airtight casing?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: toti_s on October 25, 2007, 05:48:57 PM
will a PELICAN or STORMCASE be use as a drybox for lenses considering that these are airtight casing?

it can be...just add sachets of silica gel (yung di saturated) inside...you're problem will be how to measure the humidity inside and know that the silica needs recharge...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: CMT on October 25, 2007, 07:46:01 PM
I use a 1550 for my drybox.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: joel78 on October 25, 2007, 09:15:37 PM
Here are the pics ng drybox from SM Fairview kamera world. Sorry for the late post medyo busy e.

Mga masters comment naman kung ok ba itong drybox na ganito.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/blu111/DSC00256.jpg)


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/blu111/DSC00255.jpg)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: marlvin on October 26, 2007, 12:03:36 AM
will a PELICAN or STORMCASE be use as a drybox for lenses considering that these are airtight casing?

since you mentioned stormcase, sa'n ba pwede bumili? looking for 1. :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: HartSord on October 26, 2007, 12:14:40 AM
Here are the pics ng drybox from SM Fairview kamera world. Sorry for the late post medyo busy e.

Mga masters comment naman kung ok ba itong drybox na ganito.

[url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/blu111/DSC00256.jpg[/url]

[url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/blu111/DSC00255.jpg[/url]


It should be fine, but you might want to get another hygrometer, just to be sure that you have at least one working hygro, kahit yung Blade version lang.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: inggaybes on October 26, 2007, 02:14:13 AM
yes... been using it. ok naman. automatic.
sir anong model ng wonderful dry cabinet nyo po? how much po? tnx so much!!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: hubie on October 26, 2007, 03:01:29 PM
i'm using vam drybox so far so good.  ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: geourgina on October 26, 2007, 03:10:38 PM
Here are the pics ng drybox from SM Fairview kamera world. Sorry for the late post medyo busy e.

Mga masters comment naman kung ok ba itong drybox na ganito.

([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/blu111/DSC00256.jpg[/url])


([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/blu111/DSC00255.jpg[/url])


I use this for camera bodies and lenses I seldom use because once you open it on a humid afternoon it will suck in a lot of moisture and would take half a day to get the reading down to acceptable levels.  I also put an extra hygrometer inside like Hartsord suggested, pero fairly accurate naman reading nya.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: zenglebron on October 27, 2007, 12:48:46 AM
I use this for camera bodies and lenses I seldom use because once you open it on a humid afternoon it will suck in a lot of moisture and would take half a day to get the reading down to acceptable levels.  I also put an extra hygrometer inside like Hartsord suggested, pero fairly accurate naman reading nya.

I'm using this one too. The hygrometer is accurate - tested it against manual hygrometers. The electric moisture absorber that comes with it is working well - it's been two weeks since recharge and it still absorbs moisture effectively.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: inggaybes on October 27, 2007, 12:01:56 PM
mga sir hingi lang ako ng advice. ano mas ok na dry cabinet:
Eureka Drybox Rt-48 or wonderful AD-040c, or AD-050C   ??
yng prices ng tatlo hindi nagkakalayo kasi. ano kaya  ma suggest nyo na kunin ko?
tnx so much!!!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: creationz on October 27, 2007, 03:25:28 PM
get the biggest you can buy... im sure it would get crowded in there after sometime  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: mika888 on October 29, 2007, 12:57:00 PM
Here are the pics ng drybox from SM Fairview kamera world. Sorry for the late post medyo busy e.

Mga masters comment naman kung ok ba itong drybox na ganito.

([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/blu111/DSC00256.jpg[/url])


([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/blu111/DSC00255.jpg[/url])


How much sir ang ganitong box? Thanks
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nightkids_racing on October 29, 2007, 04:50:04 PM
^ parang may nakita ako ganyan sa mall of asia sells around 1.5k pero di ko sure kung ganyan nga yun pero ganyan kasi itsura nun if i remember it right. it was on a camera shop near sbarro
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: marlvin on October 29, 2007, 09:14:26 PM
How much sir ang ganitong box? Thanks

look closer at the pic. may price tag it says, 1,225 sale price. ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: joel78 on October 29, 2007, 09:37:57 PM
 ;D ;D ;D Sharp eyes! ;)
Yup it's 1225 sale price at kamera world in SM fairview. :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: greenjeans0 on November 02, 2007, 10:11:14 PM
Hello, when you say recharging the silica gel, does that mean we pour out the gel from the white pouches and spread them under the sun? or we can just place the pouches under the sun without pouring out the content? and for how long? thanks!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: greenjeans0 on November 02, 2007, 10:18:57 PM
my DIY Dry Box... hindi aabot ng 1K :D

Lock & Lock (w/ top handle), Analog Hygro w/ Temp (from SM Dept), Silica Gel and a glue gun... viola!!!

([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v660/jondextan/drybox.jpg[/url])


This is a very good and practical idea. Thanks for tips!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urfoolingmyleeg on November 02, 2007, 11:30:54 PM
;D ;D ;D Sharp eyes! ;)
Yup it's 1225 sale price at kamera world in SM fairview. :)

kinalikot ko to when i was at another branch. parang skeptical ako sa pagka airtight ng seal. medyo loose e... mas maganda pa yung mga food containers. mine is a biokips and RH is maintained well.  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: PD5 on November 02, 2007, 11:46:31 PM
Ask ko lang mga master, kakabili ko lang ng dry cabinet, kailangan ko bang alisin yung battery ng camera kapag nasa dry cabinet? Kailangan din ba ilagay flash unit sa drycab? Batteries? TIA
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: toti_s on November 03, 2007, 12:11:31 AM
Hello, when you say recharging the silica gel, does that mean we pour out the gel from the white pouches and spread them under the sun? or we can just place the pouches under the sun without pouring out the content? and for how long? thanks!

i just microwave them for 1 or 2 mins or until magchange yung color (peach if saturated, blue if charged)...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: HartSord on November 03, 2007, 12:52:01 AM
i just microwave them for 1 or 2 mins or until magchange yung color (peach if saturated, blue if charged)...

I do the same, but they're out of the pouch in a glass microwave container, then abt 2 mins at medium I think, stir it with the handle of a metal spoon to distribute the gel evenly, then repeat until completely recharged.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: joel_carvajal on November 03, 2007, 02:26:09 AM
A little bit OT but I hope useful nonetheless.

Here's a suggestion to keep the contents of your dryboxes organized for as low as PhP88.00 only.

DIY sells this drawer partitions for only PhP88.00 each.  It contains three strips which you can snap into smaller segments and assemble it to your liking.  See pictures below.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2328/1829334081_d52702c439_o.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2075/1829334567_731bb27dbb_o.jpg)

Here's how it looks like inside my Biokips 11 Liter container (PhP869.75 from True Value).  The orange mat you see under is a cut out from an ordinary placemat you can buy in SM department store.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2245/1829335013_9297a2987b_o.jpg)

...And here's a picture of my gears in it.

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2103/1829335605_8c09740a95_o.jpg)

Cheers!
Joel Carvajal
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: brox on November 04, 2007, 12:59:56 AM
hey, that's a great idea joel !

 will try it myself. thanks a lot for sharing
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: AL on November 04, 2007, 01:23:43 AM
Wow! thanks for the heads up sir! will dropby the 88 store... i can think of many uses for those dividers...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: rg7000 on November 04, 2007, 07:58:20 PM
Are there other sizes of Yangguang drybox being sold in Kameraworld? can someone tell me their contact nos.? thanks
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nightkids_racing on November 05, 2007, 04:31:09 AM
may nakita ako desciant, lime something yung content.. pwede ba yun da dry box?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jaredgomez on November 05, 2007, 08:19:09 PM
great find.. thanks for the idea. :)

A little bit OT but I hope useful nonetheless.

Here's a suggestion to keep the contents of your dryboxes organized for as low as PhP88.00 only.

DIY sells this drawer partitions for only PhP88.00 each.  It contains three strips which you can snap into smaller segments and assemble it to your liking.  See pictures below.

([url]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2328/1829334081_d52702c439_o.jpg[/url])

([url]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2075/1829334567_731bb27dbb_o.jpg[/url])

Here's how it looks like inside my Biokips 11 Liter container (PhP869.75 from True Value).  The orange mat you see under is a cut out from an ordinary placemat you can buy in SM department store.

([url]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2245/1829335013_9297a2987b_o.jpg[/url])

...And here's a picture of my gears in it.

([url]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2103/1829335605_8c09740a95_o.jpg[/url])

Cheers!
Joel Carvajal
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: HartSord on November 05, 2007, 10:22:27 PM
may nakita ako desciant, lime something yung content.. pwede ba yun da dry box?

If it doesn't say "silica gel" or "electronic", it probably isn't good.  Not 100% sure, but I'm sure I wouldn't use it without extensive research.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: toti_s on November 05, 2007, 10:26:45 PM
that's right silica gels are safer and cheap!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pareng dencio on November 06, 2007, 03:20:50 PM
i have seen some foreigners that put their lenses and gears under the sun to rid of humidity.

gusto ko sana gawin but how long/often should i put my lenses and body under the sun to dry them from humidity?

pls post more tips like this.

wala pa kasi akong dry box e.

salamat po
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jgrey_back on November 09, 2007, 01:15:36 AM
A little bit OT but I hope useful nonetheless.

Here's a suggestion to keep the contents of your dryboxes organized for as low as PhP88.00 only.

DIY sells this drawer partitions for only PhP88.00 each.  It contains three strips which you can snap into smaller segments and assemble it to your liking.  See pictures below.

([url]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2328/1829334081_d52702c439_o.jpg[/url])

([url]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2075/1829334567_731bb27dbb_o.jpg[/url])

Here's how it looks like inside my Biokips 11 Liter container (PhP869.75 from True Value).  The orange mat you see under is a cut out from an ordinary placemat you can buy in SM department store.

([url]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2245/1829335013_9297a2987b_o.jpg[/url])

...And here's a picture of my gears in it.

([url]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2103/1829335605_8c09740a95_o.jpg[/url])

Cheers!
Joel Carvajal


wow... this is a great idea sir... gaya na!!! haha ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: zando on November 10, 2007, 09:43:09 AM
i have seen some foreigners that put their lenses and gears under the sun to rid of humidity.

gusto ko sana gawin but how long/often should i put my lenses and body under the sun to dry them from humidity?

pls post more tips like this.

wala pa kasi akong dry box e.

salamat po

I would like to know the answer to this myself. With a sound scientific explanation sana. But, I think I would hesitate to sun dry the body.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can shed light.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: creationz on November 10, 2007, 10:02:46 AM
I would like to know the answer to this myself. With a sound scientific explanation sana. But, I think I would hesitate to sun dry the body.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can shed light.

not really get rid of humidity...but get rid of molds. It wont take off the molds but it would stop it from spreading. So if there are white residues of molds on the lense...better get it cleaned. I dont reccomend putting the camera body under the sun for a long time. For the lens...just aim the glass towards the lens...for maybe 3-5 minutes....of course dont put it on a bed... since the the lens act like a magnifying lens and could burn a hole whatever is under it :)

of course using your camera on day time with sunlight is like what ive said above  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: zando on November 10, 2007, 10:29:39 AM
not really get rid of humidity...but get rid of molds. It wont take off the molds but it would stop it from spreading. So if there are white residues of molds on the lense...better get it cleaned. I dont reccomend putting the camera body under the sun for a long time. For the lens...just aim the glass towards the lens...for maybe 3-5 minutes....of course dont put it on a bed... since the the lens act like a magnifying lens and could burn a hole whatever is under it :)

of course using your camera on day time with sunlight is like what ive said above  ;D

Thanks! Do you think its an advisable practice for preventive mold growth on new lenses for those of us who don't have dry boxes yet?

Another thing. A lot of photographers use UV filters as protective layers for their lenses and I was just wondering, from an illiterate point of view, if this practice can actually encourage mold growth (in the long run) since UV rays from the sun are the most active component in preventing molds (among others) in the natural setting?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: geourgina on November 10, 2007, 12:09:11 PM
not really get rid of humidity...but get rid of molds. It wont take off the molds but it would stop it from spreading. So if there are white residues of molds on the lense...better get it cleaned. I dont reccomend putting the camera body under the sun for a long time. For the lens...just aim the glass towards the lens...for maybe 3-5 minutes....of course dont put it on a bed... since the the lens act like a magnifying lens and could burn a hole whatever is under it :)

of course using your camera on day time with sunlight is like what ive said above  ;D

It's the ultra-violet rays that stops/kills the molds therefore you can use an ultra violet lamp instead of the sun.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nickol on November 13, 2007, 04:03:26 AM
Is it ok to use Pelican or Stormcase for storage of camera equipments...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: mika888 on November 13, 2007, 08:03:12 AM
i just microwave them for 1 or 2 mins or until magchange yung color (peach if saturated, blue if charged)...

San sir nakakabili ng re-chargeable silica gel?  How much? Thanks po.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Jargon on November 13, 2007, 10:39:00 AM
Is it ok to use Pelican or Stormcase for storage of camera equipments...

Those airtight containers may be OK for traveling but I don't think they're suitable for long-term storage. First, they can't regulate the humidity inside them. You could put in some silica gels to bring down the humidity. But how will you know when the humidity is just right? You could place a hygrometer inside to measure the humidity. But since the container is opaque, how would you be able to read the hygrometer without opening the container and altering the humidity?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Candyman on November 13, 2007, 11:52:39 AM
I agree with the post above.  Nothing against home-made DIY dry boxes.  But IMHO you guys spend $$$$$ for your gears.  Ditch the DIY stuff and go get yourself a P5,000 electronic drycab to protect your investment.  Like a tripod, a drybox is a 1-time investment.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nordstern1 on November 13, 2007, 12:13:25 PM
cant afford an electric drybox... :-[

...but my DIY drybox in my opinion does its job well. got me a 21L lock&lock box w/ a digital hygrmeter & 1 big pack of silica gel...keeps my equipment in 45%RH average.

not bad for 1750 pesos... ;D

yun nga lang meron na daw mura electric drybox na mura? 1200 lang daw? w/ analog hygrometer? havent seen 1 yet so i dont know how big it is. ???

sana malaki. kung ganun lang price, switch ako. ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jabba on November 13, 2007, 02:37:34 PM
I just bought a Vanguard Supreme case a few days ago and it is specified to be airtight up to 5 meters underwater. Would this make a great dry box assuming I put enough silica gel?

(http://www.vanguardusa.com/img/photo/case/supreme-1.gif)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Jargon on November 13, 2007, 03:12:43 PM
I just bought a Vanguard Supreme case a few days ago and it is specified to be airtight up to 5 meters underwater. Would this make a great dry box assuming I put enough silica gel?

([url]http://www.vanguardusa.com/img/photo/case/supreme-1.gif[/url])


nickol just asked a similar question (Pelican and Stormcase containers are similar to the Vanguard):

Is it ok to use Pelican or Stormcase for storage of camera equipments...



So I'll give the same answer:

Those airtight containers may be OK for traveling but I don't think they're suitable for long-term storage. First, they can't regulate the humidity inside them. You could put in some silica gels to bring down the humidity. But how will you know when the humidity is just right? You could place a hygrometer inside to measure the humidity. But since the container is opaque, how would you be able to read the hygrometer without opening the container and altering the humidity?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jabba on November 13, 2007, 05:12:23 PM
You raised a lot of valid points. So either shovel in bags of silica gel & have a hydrometer or get a translucent dry box
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Jargon on November 13, 2007, 06:33:28 PM
It's really important to monitor the humidity. The air should neither be too humid nor too dry. The relative humidity should be between 20% and 60%. An electric dry cabinet will automatically maintain the desired humidity. But if you use the silica gel and airtight container method, you will have to constantly monitor the reading on the hygrometer. Initially, the silica gels could make the air too dry. So you might have to open the container and close it when the humidity goes up to an acceptable level. Then as the silica gels get saturated, they would become useless and the air would become too humid.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nissin on November 13, 2007, 10:14:01 PM
Help!  Why do I get a constant 70 RH reading in my 11.5L Biokips?  I've put at least 12 plastic bags of Home Life Silica gel.  What should I do the get a reading of 30 to 50?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: zenglebron on November 13, 2007, 10:17:12 PM
Help!  Why do I get a constant 70 RH reading in my 11.5L Biokips?  I've put at least 12 plastic bags of Home Life Silica gel.  What should I do the get a reading of 30 to 50?

What's the color of the silical gel? pink/red? If yes, you need to "dehydrate" your silica gel. put the beads in the microwave oven for a few seconds or until the colored beads turn blue
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: zenglebron on November 13, 2007, 10:19:41 PM
Btw, peter did you check if your hygrometer is working right?  :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urfoolingmyleeg on November 13, 2007, 11:14:00 PM
in my opinon, throw away the home life silica gel right now! got them also before and they were just *toink*. bili ka nalang ng chemical grade na gel from UP. yun ang effective!  :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: presley on November 14, 2007, 01:57:11 AM
Sa mainit ba o malamig na lugar mas madaling magka-fungus dslr at lens? Mas  maselan ba maintenance ng dslr kesa point n shoot digicam? Napuna ko sa D70s ko na namumuti yung ibang ulo ng screw sa ilalim (mga 2-3pcs), ni-try ko tanggalin isa; hindi naman buong screw yung namuti kundi yung ulo lang. Amag kaya yan?
Bago ko pala napuna yan, sa dresser cabinet ko iniiwan ang dslr. Sa araw medyo mainit loob ng cabinet at sa gabi naman malamig kasi naka aircon.
Ang combination ba ng init lamig sa cabinet ko ay ideal para sa fungus formation? Tia. :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Jargon on November 14, 2007, 06:15:26 AM
The ideal temperature range for fungus growth is between 20C and 38C.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: inggaybes on November 14, 2007, 03:19:22 PM
been using a diy drybox for a year now, its very hard (for me)to maintain a hygrometer reading na ok sa gears.
tsaka kailangan lagi icheck yng mga silica gels..  medyo matrabaho..so.. i decided to buy a wonderful drybox ad-088c 70Liters with 3trays... im so happy with it!! worry free na.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ximus_pic on November 15, 2007, 04:36:14 PM
A newbie here, What would be proper - to separate (or not) the body from the lens  when storing? put the caps  on or not?  ???
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nightkids_racing on November 16, 2007, 04:49:56 PM
bumili na ako ng Air Tight Container (P275 lang kuha ko sa ace hardware) nilagyan ko ng around 10pcs na silica gel, malaki kasi yung lalagyan kahit camera bag pasok sa loob... di ako nakakabili ng hygrometer...

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: siakol on November 16, 2007, 10:09:29 PM
How much are the electric drybox? whereis it available?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: inggaybes on November 16, 2007, 11:09:23 PM
How much are the electric drybox? whereis it available?
pre meron sa aperture ng eureka dry cabinets.. nasa 5500 yata yng pinaka mura.
binili ko yng wonderful dry cabinet sa twincell. 3rd floor sa vmall greenhills. prices from 5500 to 15t.
depende sa dami ng gears na ilalagay mo.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: aperture on November 17, 2007, 12:07:37 AM
The smallest dry box we have is 5.5K. Should you decide to use silica gel for keeping your lenses against fungus, It is better to get a plactic container that is air tight like tupperware. That would make the silica gel more effective in absorbing the moisture inside your lenses and camera and not wasting the silica gel to absorb the moisture coming from the atmosphere. An hydrometer is very important since not all silica gel are made equal some might absorb too much and make the environment too dry and affecting the coating of the lenses or the adhesive on the rubber grip of the camera
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: siakol on November 17, 2007, 09:35:16 AM
san makakabili ng electric dry cabinet and how much does it cost?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: edong on November 17, 2007, 09:47:06 AM
Wonderful Dry cabinets:

http://www.drycabinet.com.au/main.html (http://www.drycabinet.com.au/main.html)

- Twincell 3rd floor V-mall greenhills &
- Watson's @ Hidalgo - 733-7697 Look for: Philip King

Eureka Dry Cabinets
- Aperture Trading Corporation
  Address: 5th Flr., Prosperity Bldg., 395 Banaue St., Quezon City
  Tel: 732-8991, 731-1708
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: siakol on November 18, 2007, 08:39:08 PM
Wonderful Dry cabinets:

[url]http://www.drycabinet.com.au/main.html[/url] ([url]http://www.drycabinet.com.au/main.html[/url])

- Twincell 3rd floor V-mall greenhills &
- Watson's @ Hidalgo - 733-7697 Look for: Philip King

Eureka Dry Cabinets
- Aperture Trading Corporation
  Address: 5th Flr., Prosperity Bldg., 395 Banaue St., Quezon City
  Tel: 732-8991, 731-1708



Thanks Edong...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pbi76 on November 18, 2007, 09:19:11 PM
I got a Wonderful dry cabinet along with a digital hygro from infomax. The readings of the two are pretty much identical so I'm pretty confident that everything is working out.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Jazziedoc on November 19, 2007, 09:52:34 PM
you have PM
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: siakol on November 22, 2007, 10:02:24 PM
May binebente sa Avenue na electric drybox around 2,500. Is this worth the price Ill pay if ever Ill buy this? I think its made in China.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bmcasis on November 26, 2007, 08:55:58 PM
Back in the 80" I stored my old film camera in an airtight tupperware with silica gel but unfortunately some of the lenses still grew some molds. The quality of the lenses were not affected. Because of this experience, I got a dry box made in china from FANS in Greenhills less than 4,000 (Hindi ko na maalala ang exact price). This is less hassle considering you have to regularly check your silica gel if you are using them. The dry box has been working well and everytime you open it to get something, the reading changes. It means it is still working. No problems with my equipment so far.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: edong on November 26, 2007, 09:12:16 PM
Quote
May binebente sa Avenue na electric drybox around 2,500. Is this worth the price Ill pay if ever Ill buy this? I think its made in China.

sir siakol, ano dimension ng electric drybox?

To compare, I saw one at Henry's last weekend - P3.8K ang price, more or less 12" x 12" x 16" ang dimension...meron din built-in hygrometer...

Sa Watson's, Model AD-088C lang ang stock (masyadong malaki) - check daw ni Philip ang Models AD-040C and AD-050...



Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: edong on November 26, 2007, 09:18:27 PM
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digital hygro from infomax

Bought one last October at Infomax Megamall. The %RH reading is off by 13% compared to a calibrated digital hygrometers and a sling psychrometer...The temperature was off by around 2ºC...

   

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: siakol on November 26, 2007, 10:39:18 PM
sir siakol, ano dimension ng electric drybox?

To compare, I saw one at Henry's last weekend - P3.8K ang price, more or less 12" x 12" x 16" ang dimension...meron din built-in hygrometer...

Sa Watson's, Model AD-088C lang ang stock (masyadong malaki) - check daw ni Philip ang Models AD-040C and AD-050...





nakakita na ako ng 40C, 3 trays sya around 7k sya. I think masyado malaki yun kasi sa lens ko. $ pa lang naman lens ko kaya maliit lng gusto ko sana. Meron ka feedback sa drybox dun sa Avenue? Alam ko lang is made in China sila
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: greenjeans0 on December 03, 2007, 10:08:58 PM
Saan po ilalagay yung silicon packs? sa ibabaw ng mga lenses?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urfoolingmyleeg on December 03, 2007, 10:45:08 PM
Saan po ilalagay yung silicon packs? sa ibabaw ng mga lenses?

doesn't really matter. you can put them anywhere in the drybox. they affect humidity and this is everywhere in the box.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: imperialv on December 07, 2007, 03:01:36 AM
How much sir ang ganitong box? Thanks

sa TRUE VALUE ba mayroon nito?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: rbrag on December 13, 2007, 03:33:20 PM
Sirs,

Thanks a lot!  Mag DIY na rin lang ako... buti pala nag browse ako dito got my 1 month old d80 and quite new sa Photography... first things first!

Salamat po uli...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Doughn on December 18, 2007, 02:57:22 PM
I got a Am-pr0 equator 5(2pc) at true value ayala cebu.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urfoolingmyleeg on December 19, 2007, 10:26:39 AM
i got a dessicant from a one one bag of crackers. it says that it is caustic lime and i opened the pouch, which had powder inside. would this be safe for our gear?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: HartSord on December 19, 2007, 12:16:04 PM
i got a dessicant from a one one bag of crackers. it says that it is caustic lime and i opened the pouch, which had powder inside. would this be safe for our gear?

Let me put it this way: caustic is another word for corrosive.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urfoolingmyleeg on December 19, 2007, 12:23:40 PM
alright, hear you loud and clear.  :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Thunder Thighs on December 22, 2007, 09:16:13 AM
Just got an Am-Pro Equator 8 from True Value  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pooslice on December 23, 2007, 01:50:21 AM
I've been using a pelican 1510 for a while now with a whole box of silica gel from true value. I recharge the silica gel once or twice a month. So far so good. :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: cruzron on December 28, 2007, 01:26:36 AM
is it okay to leave the lens on a body while in a dry box or do I need to remove it?  :)

TIA!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kismet on December 28, 2007, 02:52:39 PM
got myself a portable dry box with electric moisture absorber last week. Hope this does the job :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pooslice on December 29, 2007, 09:56:49 AM
is it okay to leave the lens on a body while in a dry box or do I need to remove it?  :)

TIA!

It's okay! :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: gibo on January 14, 2008, 10:27:21 AM
Just got my DIY Dry Box:

21L - Lock and Lock w/ wheels  :D - P1,199 - Greenbelt 1
E-Sun Digital Hygrometer w/ Clock, Date, Alarm & Rh Min/Max from Infomax - 1,200
Homelife Silica Gels (25 small plastic bags)-64

Silica gels appears to work better if taken out of the plastic. I had to put it in a small plastic medicine separator (bought in Shopwise, Accessories Section 10 pesos) and just had to drill holes small enought to make it absorb moisture so I can close the cover. So far, %Rh ranges from 55% to 58%. Unlike when the gels were in the plastic bags, %Rh ranged from 60% to 63%. I guess it varies due to room temperature during the day.

So far I'm satisfied with this DIY drybox as I was able to save 1,300 compared to the electric dry box worth 3,800++ in True Value. Just need to do some additonal work but it's not an issue...(kaya nga Do-It-Yourself... ;D)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: paupop on January 14, 2008, 03:23:55 PM
FYI GUYS! be careful of handling blue silica gels.
I've been dwelling in this thread for quite some time now and I've actually made my own DIY dry box thru the help of this thread. Because of great satisfaction with my DIY drybox, I got curious of the amazement that silica gels brought me. So I've searched the net about SILICA GELS...

1. They say that BLUE INDICATOR GELS or the blue silica gels that turns pink when satured are CARCINOGENIC.
2. BLUE INDICATOR GELS may cause cancer by inhalation (when in dust form).
3. BLUE INDICATOR GELS silica gel in beaded form or in sachets gives virtually no exposure to dust. ( Good news but up to when? )
4. That there are new indicator gels the orange to green indicators are non-toxic. ( But where can we get them?! )
5. WHITE SILICA GELS are safe, ( HOORAY! like the ones bought in UP ) but take note of this... The silica gel sachets that I'm using now for my DIY drybox, which i thought were pure white silica gels, include some Blue Indicator Gels so better check your silica gel packs too. I plan to remove the indicators and maybe  put all the GOOD BEADS in a pillbox and make some holes like what I saw in this thread or get too lazy and buy a kilo in a test tube store in UP. :)

If we have hygrometers, we don't need the blue indicators so get rid of them.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: gibo on January 14, 2008, 03:32:14 PM
@paupop

Thanks for the the info.  I think you're right that we don't need the indicator gels, since we already have our hygrometers to help us determine that we need to replace or recharge our silica gels when it doesn't stay within the required %Rh level.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: brf on January 14, 2008, 04:23:57 PM
Just wondering if this drybox is really needed.
Are we just too OC with our gears?
Ksi napansin ko, wala pa akong nakitang store na naka drybox yun camera/lens na binebenta nila.
Eh minsan matagal din naman naka tambak sa store nila.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Bravoexo on January 14, 2008, 05:10:33 PM
Really, richard?  Drop by an Infomaxx store.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: gibo on January 14, 2008, 05:27:40 PM
Sa Infomax nakita ko lahat ng Canon and Nikon lens nila na mamahalin naka dry cabinet. I think dalawang dry cabinet yung ginagamit nila dun.  Well, personally I use drybox as a precaution since I invested on this hobby, might as well spend a couple of thousand more to ensure my gears are protected. OC? Maybe,. But better than being sorry I guess.




Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: brf on January 14, 2008, 05:36:59 PM
Not all their lenses are in a drybox, just a few.
How many Hidalgo stores use drybox?
I've visited Canon Dzone, I didn't see also.



Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nap on January 14, 2008, 05:37:26 PM
Just wondering if this drybox is really needed.
Are we just too OC with our gears?
Ksi napansin ko, wala pa akong nakitang store na naka drybox yun camera/lens na binebenta nila.
Eh minsan matagal din naman naka tambak sa store nila.


Well, the old cameras and lenses (my mom's) we have in the house are all moldy because my mom didn't know much about dry boxes then.  I remember the film EOS Rebel we had took clear pictures for less than 2 years because molds started to form inside and outside the lens.  We kept it in a leather lunch box.

So now that I have my own gear (which my wife and I bought with our sweat and blood), I will make sure that I make a DIY drybox as soon as I can get my hands on an extra 1,900 pesos (box + hygrometer).
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: brf on January 14, 2008, 05:43:37 PM
Well, the old cameras and lenses (my mom's) we have in the house are all moldy because my mom didn't know much about dry boxes then.  I remember the film EOS Rebel we had took clear pictures for less than 2 years because molds started to form inside and outside the lens.  We kept it in a leather lunch box.

So now that I have my own gear (which my wife and I bought with our sweat and blood), I will make sure that I make a DIY drybox as soon as I can get my hands on an extra 1,900 pesos (box + hygrometer).

I think it will happen if you wont use it for long period of time, like couple of months/years.
But once a week of use, I think it's safe.

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nap on January 14, 2008, 05:52:21 PM
After a shoot, I keep the camera exposed in my room overnight to allow moisture to evaporate (I sweat a lot).  During my last shoot, it was drizzling and occasional raindrops hit the camera body, lens, and flash.  It's after those times that I want to be OC because molds can easily form with that much moisture. 

2 of my point and shoots suffered mold build-up even if used them regularly (they were kept in a sealed leather case) - as in every other day at the least.

Now that I have an expensive DSLR, I want to make sure that molds won't build up.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: joey fortuno on January 14, 2008, 05:53:57 PM
Better safe than sorry,  A drybox gives us peace of mind from fungus & thieves (unless they're really after our gear).   Tapos organized pa lahat ng photography stuff natin (Trans: if nakakalat, our wife will see how much stuff we have accumulated)  ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: toti_s on January 14, 2008, 06:07:37 PM
When you buy brand new cameras and lenses, you'll notice that there are silica gels inside...this will help absorb the moisture...so for me, kung ayaw mo ng drybox, just a  sachet of silicas ay makakatulong na as long as hindi saturated ito.

I have an old nikkor 70-300 lens na nagkamolds...nakakadala na, nabenta tuloy ng mura. :( ...He's correct, a couple of months lang na di mo magamit, magkaka fungi na. Ayaw ng molds ng lights so pag naka store lang siya, it's better to put the lens in  transparent jars or garapon with silica gels kung ayaw mo ng drybox. :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: paupop on January 14, 2008, 06:12:37 PM
I have an SLR now that's being attacked or (culturing, hehe :)) molds maybe because i kept it in
a camera bag with silica gels in it and did not use it for quite some time. The moment I got hold of my hygrometer, I immediately checked my camera bag's humidity and it showed a high reading of 65% up to 72%. Then i compared it to my DIY box and gives a constant 56%-58% range. The DIY box is like a controlled atmosphere keeping a really short range reading. Before, when this camera is not being used, I find time to shoot even without film just to allow light to pass through the lens and body (got this idea from my college photography professor). E tinamad na.  ;D  The box, I hope, will be the answer to my katamaran. :D

I'm wondering also how they keep the cameras in stores mold-free. Maybe some camera shop owners can enlighten us...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: gibo on January 15, 2008, 09:28:10 AM
Oo nga no. Paano nga kaya yung mga non-moving items sa mga shops tinatago. It would be good if some owners can share their technique ng storage. O baka naman depende na sa room temperature ng shop nila.

Although, I have an Canon EOS 500N SLR that I've stored in my cabinet inside the camera for a long time (a year and a half maybe) and up to now I don't see any molds or fungi accumulating inside the lens or body. I tested it last month and had the film developed, ok pa rin.  Pero I realized na DSLR na nga ako. Kasi ang layo na ng developing center from my office. Tapos di ko pa makita agad yung output ng kuha ko kung di ko agad mapa-develop.  :D

I'm guessing that the average room temperature where you store your cameras and gears plays a big factor in keeping it away from molds.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: skylab on January 15, 2008, 10:31:30 AM
If you are a regular shooter with one or two bodies then i guess you shouldnt really worry. I bought my Dry Cab for storage because i have more than two bodies with multiple lenses in different formats. I barely use the other bodies. I live in cavite and the humidity here can reach 70% in any day, so i finally got my peace of mind when i purchased the drycab. Most camera stores in the mall have good ventilation therefore bringing down the humidity level.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nap on January 17, 2008, 04:31:57 PM
Since my camera will be having its vacation for one month (i.e. di ko magagamit ng isang buwan), I scrambled to DIY a drybox.  Actually, I found a SMALL biokips container at home. Sabi ko pa sa sarili ko, mukhang di kasya D80 + kitlens ko so tinanggal ko pa yung lens sa body para magkasya. It turns out kasya pala even with the lens on. And with a little creativity, napagkasya ko 50mm lens and SB600 ko.

Silica gels? No problem, I bought 1 kg from UP Shopping Center sometime last year. I just recharged 4 scoops of it and put it in a cheesecloth pouch (from UP Shopping Center din).

Hygrometer? I rushed to Ever Gotesco to buy a less than 300 pesos hygrometer from DIY store. Onyx brand.  I was very sceptical about the quality of the hygrometer so I took it with me when I took a hot shower.  The reading was 88%.  I also did the wet salt test and to my disbelief, the cheap hygrometer read 75%! Accurate pala tong nabili ko!

The 4 scoops of silica gel in such a small drybox (8 liters ata siya e) pulled the humidity all the way down to 30%. Binawasan ko silica gels and now, the hygrometer is reading a comfortable 40%.

Mabuti na lang at nakabili nako, my room's humidity is around 72% at night pala.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: zepollopez on January 17, 2008, 05:51:05 PM
I don't have a hygrometer yet, but I do have 500grams of dessicant in an 8 liter container. I'm not afraid that the dessicant will lower the humidity too much. Silica gel, apparently, can only lower the humidity to about 40%.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: paupop on January 18, 2008, 01:23:11 PM
@nap

Where is UP shopping center located sir? UP diliman ba to? Sa loob mismo?
Thanks in advance. ;)

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pacute on January 19, 2008, 11:06:00 PM
nakakahawa ba ung fungus pag nilagay sa drybox? example: ung nikon dslr ko, tpos may kasamang oldschool na leica(not sure kng may fungus wala nman ako nkkta pero luma na tlga eh pero ok p nman) sa loob. mhahawa ba ung nikon?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nap on January 20, 2008, 01:49:31 AM
@paupop, yes, it's inside the UP Diliman campus.  If ever you plan to go there, just ask the guards at the entrances of the campus where the Shopping Center is.  It is beside the dome chapel.  Most jeepneys in UP go through Shopping Center.

@nap

Where is UP shopping center located sir? UP diliman ba to? Sa loob mismo?
Thanks in advance. ;)


Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: paupop on January 21, 2008, 05:19:06 PM
THANX nap!!! :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nap on January 21, 2008, 05:23:05 PM
THANX nap!!! :)

Oh by the way, I think that shop is closed on Sundays.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: gelobarb on January 21, 2008, 05:32:39 PM
Where can you buy cheap hygrometer?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nap on January 21, 2008, 06:52:47 PM
There's a hygrometer with clock and thermometer at SM department stores. 

I bought mine from DIY store - car accessories section.  - onyx brand for less than 300 pesos.

Most of the time, sales people don't know what a hygrometer is.  It would be better if you ask for a 2-in-1 or 3-in-1 thermometer.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nycshot on January 22, 2008, 10:18:56 AM
mga kuya meron po akong d80 kit nagyun na nasa bag lang na may isang pack ng silica gel okei na po ba un?

lagi namn siya nasa dry place wala siya sa kawrto na may aircon.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: doctorj on January 22, 2008, 01:31:08 PM
Mga sirs gaano kadami ba silica gel na kailangan, nag lagay na ako ng 75 pcs na sache ng silica gel sa lock n lock ko na 10L pero di bumaba RH ng 70%.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nap on January 22, 2008, 04:50:07 PM
75  :o :o sachets?  I don't know how many is the ideal number but maybe your silica gels are already saturated.  Time to dry them under the sun. I would only recommend microwaving to those who are using clear silica gels not those colored ones.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: doctorj on January 22, 2008, 05:04:22 PM
Ah , ok po sir. Salamat sa info. Try ko po microwave. 
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: squiggly on January 28, 2008, 12:54:35 AM
Sir, may nabibili sa ace hardware na dehumidifier. less than 100 pesoses tapos ang tagal ko na ginagamit under 60% RH pa rin.  youll see it sa check out counters sa`ace hardware.


Mga sirs gaano kadami ba silica gel na kailangan, nag lagay na ako ng 75 pcs na sache ng silica gel sa lock n lock ko na 10L pero di bumaba RH ng 70%.

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Thunder Thighs on January 28, 2008, 08:02:48 AM
Sir, may nabibili sa ace hardware na dehumidifier. less than 100 pesoses tapos ang tagal ko na ginagamit under 60% RH pa rin.  youll see it sa check out counters sa`ace hardware.

Be careful of those dehumidifiers in large hard plastic containers.  They're most likely calcium based and not silica gel.  The fumes emitted is bad (corrosive) for our gear
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: gibo on January 28, 2008, 10:24:37 AM
Mga sirs gaano kadami ba silica gel na kailangan, nag lagay na ako ng 75 pcs na sache ng silica gel sa lock n lock ko na 10L pero di bumaba RH ng 70%.


Ako I used the whole packs inside the box of Homelife.  Though tinanggal ko pa sa supot and placed them inside a pillbox. I checked it last night, the min. RH% was 38% and max was 64%.  So meron part of the day na talagang tumataas sya.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: artwur on January 28, 2008, 12:20:25 PM
Curious Question:

Could I use an airtight ziplock (yung plastig bag) with some silica gel and place it in a cheap microwavable airtight lunchbox with rubber seal, would that be good enough?? I thought I could use this to store some of the lenses.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: doctorj on January 28, 2008, 12:22:05 PM
nilagay ko sa microwave yung silica gel ko for 30seconds and ok na po yung reading ng RH ko nasa 50% na lang ngaun. Salamat po sa mga advise nyo mga sirs.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: gibo on January 28, 2008, 04:19:53 PM
Curious Question:

Could I use an airtight ziplock (yung plastig bag) with some silica gel and place it in a cheap microwavable airtight lunchbox with rubber seal, would that be good enough?? I thought I could use this to store some of the lenses.

Baka pwede. Although personally, aside from keeping molds away, I also use the dry box for other safety reasons: 1. Iwas sa mga anak ko na mahilig kumalikot sa gamit ko  :D 2. Iwas sa aksidenteng mahulog or mabitawan kasi naka lagay drybox ko sa tabi ng kama. and 3. It also allows me to store other gadgets aside from DSLR to be stored in the box.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: awdgsr on January 29, 2008, 05:17:30 PM
i placed around 20 plastics (from a box of 35) of silica gel in my DIY dry box and the RH read-out is between 56% to 59%.  is this okay?  or should i get more gels (or dry it out)?

thanks
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: creationz on January 29, 2008, 05:31:29 PM
i think it should be at around 45-55 RH....if youre using the digital hygrometer from infomax...a lot of units is off by around +8 to plus +10... so less that to your reading then i think its fine.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: awdgsr on January 30, 2008, 12:27:16 AM
i think it should be at around 45-55 RH....if youre using the digital hygrometer from infomax...a lot of units is off by around +8 to plus +10... so less that to your reading then i think its fine.

thanks
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nap on January 30, 2008, 10:09:43 AM
After repeated "microwavings" of my UP Shopping Center silica gels, I noticed that the beads become shiny.  I know I bought them cheap, but do shiny beads mean that I have to replace them already? 

Silica gels work by having microscopic pores on their surfaces and it is these microscopic pores which trap humidity.

Did I answer my own question?  ;D ;D  Matte finish = pores open; glossy finish = pores closed.  ???  ???

BTW, how long do you microwave your silica gels? I microwave them for 3 minutes. Maybe that's why they became shiny - probably they are starting to melt.  Did I just provide a solution to my question?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: gibo on January 30, 2008, 11:56:41 AM
Tingin ko nga bro nasagot mo rin yung tanong mo.  ;D

3 mins? Diba parang nag-init ka ng ulam nun?  ;) Parang matagal masyado. Somewhere in this thread nabasa ko yung iba 30 sec or less than a minute.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nap on January 30, 2008, 12:14:30 PM
Tingin ko nga bro nasagot mo rin yung tanong mo.  ;D

3 mins? Diba parang nag-init ka ng ulam nun?  ;) Parang matagal masyado. Somewhere in this thread nabasa ko yung iba 30 sec or less than a minute.

Ahaha, :D :D ganun ba?  :o Nagluluto din kasi ako ng instant noodles kasabay ng pag-recharge ng silica gels e.  Kaya pala amoy ulam yung drybox ko.  Hehe, biro lang po.  ;D  :P  ::)

Sige, bawasan ko nga paginit ko, baka natutunaw na yung gels sa sobrang tagal. Thanks!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Virtuoso on January 30, 2008, 03:53:41 PM
Anyone tried VAM dry box?

http://echografika.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=48&Itemid=37

sells for around 2900
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Kevinmadrigal on February 01, 2008, 04:16:57 PM
Anyone tried VAM dry box?

[url]http://echografika.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=48&Itemid=37[/url]

sells for around 2900


Is this already available here? where?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: rands on February 01, 2008, 07:25:06 PM
Is this already available here? where?
is this the one Powerpee is selling?
Title: Where can i buy drybox?
Post by: politik on February 02, 2008, 11:32:40 PM
hi.. san po nakakabili ng drybox? sorry i tried to search pero sobrang dami ng threads, hope you understand.. san ba mura? nakakatakot pala magka-fungus ang lens.. ang mahal pa naman.. :o
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: quixilver on February 02, 2008, 11:35:20 PM
is this the one Powerpee is selling?

i got mine from powerpee before. dunno if he's still selling one. but maclover has one of those for sale
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: politik on February 02, 2008, 11:43:22 PM
hi.. pwede po pa-pm contact number ni maclover? for the drybox.. thanks much!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: 13th_angel on February 03, 2008, 07:28:45 AM
The info you need is atually on the thread

http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=15498.0

with the contact number and ordering procedures.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: politik on February 03, 2008, 01:04:25 PM
ah ok..iba pala yung link na nasa taas. thanks much po!!!  :)
Title: Re: Where can i buy drybox?
Post by: awdgsr on February 03, 2008, 03:09:13 PM
hi.. san po nakakabili ng drybox? sorry i tried to search pero sobrang dami ng threads, hope you understand.. san ba mura? nakakatakot pala magka-fungus ang lens.. ang mahal pa naman.. :o

meron sa infomaxx and true value.

or pwede ka DIY: air-tight box (10L or 21 L Lock and Lock from any department store), silica gel (from ace hardware or true value or, as mentioned, UP shopping center) and a hygrometer (to measure humidity, which is around P800 in infomaxx or cheaper in some shops).  it cost me around P1500 for the whole thing vs. a dry box at around P4T.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jfagustin on February 05, 2008, 05:34:02 PM
saan paba may analog hygrometer? wala nakong makita sa SM Department store eh.  May nakita kong dry box (china made) sa Kameraworld sa Shangrila 1.3k ang price.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jfagustin on February 05, 2008, 05:36:37 PM
Anyone tried VAM dry box?

[url]http://echografika.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=48&Itemid=37[/url]

sells for around 2900


saw this one at true value shangrila kaya lang Php 3,950 ang price.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kpy555 on February 06, 2008, 02:19:59 PM
As far as I know Powerpee is still selling it.

The VAM Dry Box is perfect for storing your camera + kit lens. But if you plan to expand your gear lineup, better invest in a bigger drybox.

I use a Eureka DX-76 Dry Cabinet and it's perfect! :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: import_tuner on February 07, 2008, 01:55:23 PM
saan paba may analog hygrometer? wala nakong makita sa SM Department store eh.  May nakita kong dry box (china made) sa Kameraworld sa Shangrila 1.3k ang price.

I just bought a hygrometer from Blade in Galeria at 400++ pesos.. isa na lang ang natitira :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jfagustin on February 07, 2008, 09:26:43 PM
I just bought a hygrometer from Blade in Galeria at 400++ pesos.. isa na lang ang natitira :)

nice matingnan nga. alam ba ng mga sales person yung hygrometer at gumagana ba?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: aksdman on February 07, 2008, 11:03:31 PM
After going back and forth on whether or not I should get a Dry-Cabinet for my gear or a D-I-Y one, I finally decided to get the Am-Pro Dry Cabinet when my wife said: "You spend so much for your gear but scrimp on protecting it?" 

Words of wisdom, as usual!  Am now an owner of an Am-Pro Equator 8 Dry Cabinet.  After buying it, I feel secure now whenever it becomes humid in our place.  Better to be safe than sorry - ika nga.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jfagustin on February 08, 2008, 04:52:40 PM
After going back and forth on whether or not I should get a Dry-Cabinet for my gear or a D-I-Y one, I finally decided to get the Am-Pro Dry Cabinet when my wife said: "You spend so much for your gear but scrimp on protecting it?" 

Words of wisdom, as usual!  Am now an owner of an Am-Pro Equator 8 Dry Cabinet.  After buying it, I feel secure now whenever it becomes humid in our place.  Better to be safe than sorry - ika nga.

how much Am-Pro bro?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: aksdman on February 08, 2008, 05:17:07 PM
jfagustin:

I paid 8k++ for it.  Sulit Bro if you ask me.  I think JTPhoto sells a cheaper Dry-Box that might be similar.

Hope this helps Bro!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jdg on February 10, 2008, 06:14:21 AM
magkano price range nung lock n' lock na containers and rechargeable silica gels? btw available ba ito sa ace hardware?

(http://www.santiago.cc/healingphilippines/wp-photos/locknlock3.jpg)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: edong on February 10, 2008, 07:59:48 AM
i think it should be at around 45-55 RH....if youre using the digital hygrometer from infomax...a lot of units is off by around +8 to plus +10... so less that to your reading then i think its fine.

mine is off by 14%...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: gatmig on February 10, 2008, 09:15:17 AM
I just got a 21L lock and lock at SM Makati. Silica from True Value.  I have yet to get a hygrometer but i plan on going to Fuma this weekend.  Would it be best to get an analog one over digital?  i am leaning towards analog since no batteries are needed. Also, i think the analog ones can be adjusted/calibrated.

by the way, you can find many digital & analog hygrometers on Ebay.com.  Price ranges from less than $10 to about $20 for the branded ones.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jamoraquai on February 12, 2008, 08:26:34 PM
i think it should be at around 45-55 RH....if youre using the digital hygrometer from infomax...a lot of units is off by around +8 to plus +10... so less that to your reading then i think its fine.

ah. kaya pala parang ang baba nung reading nung digital hygrometer from infomax. thanks for this.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Toots_S on February 13, 2008, 07:00:29 PM
Just to share my newbie drybox...
Really im just a newbie to start...

(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc315/TOOTS_SEVERINO/IMG_0881-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: gatmig on February 17, 2008, 08:03:57 AM
newbie question, measuring RH is a given but do we also have to measure temperature?

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nycshot on February 17, 2008, 08:12:50 AM
question lang po mga kuya

gaano katagal ang mga silica gel usable?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ianbond on February 26, 2008, 03:09:48 AM
Bought a 12L LnL container last sunday at Landmark for 499Php, then got a 400++ watch with hygrometer at SM ACA and an 89Php box of silica gel at Ace Harware. Priceless :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: cupkeyk on February 28, 2008, 10:54:03 AM
Take a look at this guys....

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=1616643

Mura na ito diba? La lang....
But prefer ko muna rin yung DIY drybox...hehe.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urfoolingmyleeg on February 28, 2008, 11:20:44 AM
Just to share my newbie drybox...
Really im just a newbie to start...

([url]http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc315/TOOTS_SEVERINO/IMG_0881-1.jpg[/url])


toots, eto ba yung model from aperture worth P5,500? how much last price mo? how is it?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Toots_S on February 29, 2008, 01:34:36 PM
Hi,

Yes it is the small size dry cabinet from aperture/shutter master. they gave it to me for 5000k. Its a good start as a dry system although i would have gotten the medium should i acquire more stuffs in the future. but its roomy enough for 2 cam bodies, several lenses, speed lights and other camera stuffs... it has a divider and i think you can get additional divider, not sure if aperture has them readily available. Its power consumption i may say is ok. as i dont notice my meralco bills spiking up since it is plugged the whole time... the drying mechanism activates when humidity is detected and automatically shuts off. So its a leave alone drying system... Its hygro is accurate as it has the same rh reading with my digital hygrometer. HTH! good day! ;D

toots, eto ba yung model from aperture worth P5,500? how much last price mo? how is it?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: squiggly on February 29, 2008, 01:42:50 PM
Hi Toots_S,
If you dont mind. Could you post the dimensions of your dry cab? if its not a hassle lang bro. Height Width and Depth. Thanks Bro!

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Toots_S on March 03, 2008, 09:02:21 AM
Hi Squiggly, sure no prob not a hassle although im not sure when i can post it as i have no idea where the manual of it is. But as soon as i find it ill post it here for reference! thanks... ;)

Hi Toots_S,
If you dont mind. Could you post the dimensions of your dry cab? if its not a hassle lang bro. Height Width and Depth. Thanks Bro!


Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: squiggly on March 03, 2008, 03:42:56 PM
Hi Squiggly, sure no prob not a hassle although im not sure when i can post it as i have no idea where the manual of it is. But as soon as i find it ill post it here for reference! thanks... ;)


No Worries toots_S,  When you have time lang. Appreciate it!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: cupkeyk on March 04, 2008, 01:23:13 AM
May available dry box ba sa infomaxx? o kaya sa True Value?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nycshot on March 04, 2008, 08:27:32 AM
meron sa infomax pero may kamahalan
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: cupkeyk on March 05, 2008, 02:10:45 PM
I saw a drybox while canvassing at True Value and Ace Hardware. It's a AM-PRO drybox, it's small and it's worth around P3500+ in TV and P3900+ in Ace HW. :) FYI.

About the hygrometer, P1200 siya sa InfoMax. Wala na akong makitang iba, out of stock naman sa Blade. San pa ba meron? Yung mura.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urfoolingmyleeg on March 05, 2008, 04:26:52 PM
I saw a drybox while canvassing at True Value and Ace Hardware. It's a AM-PRO drybox, it's small and it's worth around P3500+ in TV and P3900+ in Ace HW. :) FYI.

About the hygrometer, P1200 siya sa InfoMax. Wala na akong makitang iba, out of stock naman sa Blade. San pa ba meron? Yung mura.

I got mine from the DIY hardware. Cost me 299.75. Pero parang out of stock na. You guys can check though.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: schnitzerz4 on March 06, 2008, 08:50:33 PM
i got mine sa true value AM PRO medyo matagal na sya =)

(http://www.ogieabastillas.com/photos/262597654_BCfL8-L.jpg)

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: mikesabarre on March 06, 2008, 08:57:58 PM
i got mine sa true value AM PRO medyo matagal na sya =)

([url]http://www.ogieabastillas.com/photos/262597654_BCfL8-L.jpg[/url])




hindi kaya vault na kailangan n'yo sir?? hehehehe peace! :D :D :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: schnitzerz4 on March 06, 2008, 09:00:19 PM
heheheheheheh =)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ARGONDIGITAL on March 06, 2008, 11:39:57 PM
Good day mga maestro Archie here newbie. Any update on the latest price of each dry box ex. eureka, etc.... anyone knows the latest price update of any dry box. your update will be highly appreciated cause im planning to have one san eh. many thanks mga good looking piphols.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: esdiway on March 08, 2008, 09:42:50 PM
just bought a Wonderful Dry Cabinet AD-050 today at Twincell Mktg, VMall, Greenhills for 7K.  Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nycshot on March 09, 2008, 09:13:01 AM
can u take a picture of that dry cabinet sir esdiway thnx!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: mustek on March 09, 2008, 10:15:59 AM
@schnitzerz4

Ang angas naman ng drybox mu!!  :D parang James Bond! astig! :o

natawa ako dun sa first post.. talagang "isasangag sa kawali" yung silica gel..

hehe ngayun ko lang nalaman pwede pala 'recharge' yun... kewl dami ko na natutunan d2..
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: cupkeyk on March 09, 2008, 03:19:01 PM
Hi guys,

Just bought digital thermo-hygrometer at SM Megamall for only P850.00. May lesser price which is P750.00, pero walang clock.

Eto oh....

(http://www.e-sun.cn/products/_x/ETP101_x.jpg)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: cupkeyk on March 09, 2008, 03:29:06 PM
Just read this article from Carl Zeiss website, some information about fungus and how to avoid it. :)

Parang pagkakasabi between 30%-60% dapat yung humidity. Ayuz!

http://www.zeiss.com/C12567A8003B58B9/ContentsWWWIntern/29CD78D56723DA79C12571180042DF52 (http://www.zeiss.com/C12567A8003B58B9/ContentsWWWIntern/29CD78D56723DA79C12571180042DF52)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: cupkeyk on March 09, 2008, 03:32:27 PM
May important questions po ako,

1. Pag nalinis na yung lens na na-infect ng fungi, hindi na po ito makakahawa diba?  ::)
2. Kung may fungus yung lens makakahawa ba ito sa body ng camera?  ::)

Yung lang po.

Hope to hear from you guys.  ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: esdiway on March 09, 2008, 06:52:31 PM
can u take a picture of that dry cabinet sir esdiway thnx!

sir, may picture na naka upload dito sa topic na to.  just search "wonderful dry cabinet" and you'll see a post na eksakto sa binili ko.  ad-050 with three layer adjustable drawers.   :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jdg on March 09, 2008, 08:29:41 PM
saan nakakabili nung analog hygrometers and magkano? tnx!

btw anyone knows kung magkano ang ganitong wonderful electronic dry box?
(http://www.jpckemang.com/images/img46fc7dd04bdf0.jpg)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: esdiway on March 09, 2008, 08:56:08 PM
saan nakakabili nung analog hygrometers and magkano? tnx!

btw anyone knows kung magkano ang ganitong wonderful electronic dry box?
([url]http://www.jpckemang.com/images/img46fc7dd04bdf0.jpg[/url])



yung dry box na katulad nito nakita ko sa twincell sa vmall, greenhills.  3800php if my memory serves me right.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: higante on March 09, 2008, 09:23:48 PM

yung dry box na katulad nito nakita ko sa twincell sa vmall, greenhills.  3800php if my memory serves me right.
yes it is 3800 at twincell at vmall.  bought mine november 07.  doing fine with me.. exactly this model....
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jdg on March 09, 2008, 09:33:09 PM
yes it is 3800 at twincell at vmall.  bought mine november 07.  doing fine with me.. exactly this model....

mga ilang liters kaya ang model na ganito?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: athlonfan2 on March 09, 2008, 09:50:30 PM
konti nalang dagdag ung electronic dry cabinets na mabibili.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Toots_S on March 10, 2008, 08:33:09 AM
Squiggly im not able to find the specs of my eureka dry box but here is a link of it... Its the dx76 model...

http://www.eurekadrytech.com/pro01_con.aspx?CATEGORY_ID=C_00000004&PARENT_CID=C_00000001 (http://www.eurekadrytech.com/pro01_con.aspx?CATEGORY_ID=C_00000004&PARENT_CID=C_00000001)

No Worries toots_S,  When you have time lang. Appreciate it!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: squiggly on March 10, 2008, 09:37:48 AM
Hey thanks Toots_S!!  ok na to!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: edison88sia on March 10, 2008, 05:50:47 PM
@kupkeyk, saan sa sm megamall?

Hi guys,

Just bought digital thermo-hygrometer at SM Megamall for only P850.00. May lesser price which is P750.00, pero walang clock.

Eto oh....

([url]http://www.e-sun.cn/products/_x/ETP101_x.jpg[/url])
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: awdgsr on March 10, 2008, 06:30:48 PM
@edison88sia,

more likely sa infomax (4th level megamall)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Toots_S on March 10, 2008, 06:56:38 PM
Anytime pare, nice cam ha based on your info! better get a drybox na... i bet you will love it!

Hey thanks Toots_S!!  ok na to!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: edison88sia on March 10, 2008, 08:50:28 PM
@edison88sia,

more likely sa infomax (4th level megamall)

Thanks Chad
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ARGONDIGITAL on March 10, 2008, 10:36:36 PM
@edison88sia,

more likely sa infomax (4th level megamall)

Sir Query lang building A or B? thanks.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: cupkeyk on March 11, 2008, 09:10:09 AM
Infomax sa Cyberzone ba yun? Hehehe...Bldg. B.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: paolotm on March 15, 2008, 10:13:24 AM
I just want to share my experience with putting together a dry box for my gear. For reference.

I started out with a small Lock & Lock box, i think the one i got is defective because it is not air tight. I tried to look for a digital watch w/ a hygrometer in SM, i couldn't find one, and like what some of the others mentioned, hindi din masyado alam ng mga sales staff kung anu yun...

So instead opted to get a VAM Box from Maclover, i was interested in its ability to pump out the air of the box (vacuum feature) and really seal it, plus it has a built in analog hygrometer, which some have said is slightly better than the digital. I got it for 2900. Special thanks to Maclover kasi i got it na ng around 7-8pm, very accomodating...

I first used the silical gels available sa True Value, yung homelife brand, i tried it while the box was empty. i placed 10 packs. Based sa hygrometer and after overnight observation i could only get a constant 60% reading. I was medyo frustrated, so i contacted Maclover for some advice, 1st try ko to increase the silica packs, i placed around 40 packs, still the same result, i took the gels out of the pack, still the same result. We thought na baka defective yung nabili ko na gels, i tried to recharge the gels by exposing them to the sun, their colors remained the same...

So maclover suggested to try a different brand of gels, he even offered to order some for me from quiapo, kaso i was medyo impatient and decided to make a trip to UP SC, as posted by some, i got it at the chemical supplies store there for 130 per kilo. When i got home i placed some in two medicine separators (giveaways from my aunt, got the idea from this thread also) and i placed it the VAM (empty) uncovered, after 3 hours, the reading went down to 50%. Next thing i did was drill small holes in the medicine separators so i could cover it (special thanks again to this thread for the idea) and i placed my gear. Now i get a constant range of 48-52% anytime of the day. Special thanks to Maclover for the help and patience!

(http://www.geocities.com/paolo723/vam1.jpg)
(http://www.geocities.com/paolo723/vam2.jpg)

my dehumidifiers:
(http://www.geocities.com/paolo723/vam3.jpg)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: paolotm on March 15, 2008, 10:19:12 AM
btw, the VAM pala is around 11liters, i was able to place my D80 w/ grip, 10-20, 24-70, 18-200, 50mm, 2 batteries, and a SB-800 (w/o batteries).

If there's anyone from the south of Metro Manila (Paranaque, Las Pinas, or Alabang) if you need silica gels (the one sold in UP) for your DIY box i still have some.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: novice on March 15, 2008, 10:20:18 AM

@paolo how much mo sir benta. need ko rin eh.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ARGONDIGITAL on March 15, 2008, 10:46:33 AM
btw, the VAM pala is around 11liters, i was able to place my D80 w/ grip, 10-20, 24-70, 18-200, 50mm, 2 batteries, and a SB-800 (w/o batteries).

If there's anyone from the south of Metro Manila (Paranaque, Las Pinas, or Alabang) if you need silica gels (the one sold in UP) for your DIY box i still have some.

Sir PM sent. pabili silica gel. hehe...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: paolotm on March 15, 2008, 02:57:51 PM
@novice, depende sir on how much you need. 130/kilo kasi, i bought 1 kilo, konti lang yung nagamit ko, i-weigh ko yung natira, tapos i'll set aside some for me. Siguro per gram or per 100 gram denomination...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: novice on March 15, 2008, 04:15:46 PM
sige sir pm me kung how much. thanks.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: suavegabe on March 16, 2008, 06:07:57 PM
finally bought a dry cabinet from JT:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3275/2337289998_51d26d5bc5.jpg?v=0)

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: magnus on March 16, 2008, 11:34:58 PM
I just want to share my experience with putting together a dry box for my gear. For reference.

I started out with a small Lock & Lock box, i think the one i got is defective because it is not air tight. I tried to look for a digital watch w/ a hygrometer in SM, i couldn't find one, and like what some of the others mentioned, hindi din masyado alam ng mga sales staff kung anu yun...

So instead opted to get a VAM Box from Maclover, i was interested in its ability to pump out the air of the box (vacuum feature) and really seal it, plus it has a built in analog hygrometer, which some have said is slightly better than the digital. I got it for 2900. Special thanks to Maclover kasi i got it na ng around 7-8pm, very accomodating...

I first used the silical gels available sa True Value, yung homelife brand, i tried it while the box was empty. i placed 10 packs. Based sa hygrometer and after overnight observation i could only get a constant 60% reading. I was medyo frustrated, so i contacted Maclover for some advice, 1st try ko to increase the silica packs, i placed around 40 packs, still the same result, i took the gels out of the pack, still the same result. We thought na baka defective yung nabili ko na gels, i tried to recharge the gels by exposing them to the sun, their colors remained the same...

So maclover suggested to try a different brand of gels, he even offered to order some for me from quiapo, kaso i was medyo impatient and decided to make a trip to UP SC, as posted by some, i got it at the chemical supplies store there for 130 per kilo. When i got home i placed some in two medicine separators (giveaways from my aunt, got the idea from this thread also) and i placed it the VAM (empty) uncovered, after 3 hours, the reading went down to 50%. Next thing i did was drill small holes in the medicine separators so i could cover it (special thanks again to this thread for the idea) and i placed my gear. Now i get a constant range of 48-52% anytime of the day. Special thanks to Maclover for the help and patience!

([url]http://www.geocities.com/paolo723/vam1.jpg[/url])
([url]http://www.geocities.com/paolo723/vam2.jpg[/url])

my dehumidifiers:
([url]http://www.geocities.com/paolo723/vam3.jpg[/url])



tnx sir very useful.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: replete on March 16, 2008, 11:45:14 PM
*toink* sa ace hardware at handyman hindi nila alam hygrometer.
sumakit lang paa ko kanina. haha
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: shiryuu59 on March 27, 2008, 10:21:29 AM
hi, i am kinda new in this hobby.... just wanna ask some questions regarding dry box

can we put the CF card and the batt grip with the battery inside also in the dry box? since i noticed some people is also putting in their lens box inside the dry box...

thanks... got mine at hidalgo... th eone with the silica gel.....

thanks in advance...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: edison88sia on March 27, 2008, 11:46:41 AM
@shiryuu59, what capacity is your drybox and how much did you get it for? Is the silica gel the one that can be plugged in?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: shiryuu59 on March 27, 2008, 01:47:32 PM
not sure about the size ... but i think it is the same size as the VAM... and yes.. its the one with the plug silica gel...

i read other thread.....u can put all in the dry box but i didnt see if CF is alsp dry box safe... so far i see people put in camera, batt grip, battery, flash.........

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: edison88sia on March 27, 2008, 01:58:48 PM
thanks Shiryuu59, i think you can put the CF inside as well and should be no problem. But i dont think there is really a need to put the CF.

Fungus attacks the lenses and the camera. But I have not heard of it attacking the CF card. There's no harm in putting them in the dry box.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: shiryuu59 on March 27, 2008, 02:08:41 PM
haw haw haw......

the reason i ask is because i am too lazy to bring them out from the camera..... thanks for the input......
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: creationz on March 27, 2008, 03:08:25 PM
I just leave the CF card in my camera... and I also put my spare CF cards in my dry cab so I don't misplace them. Other items I place inside my dry cabinet....are my batteries, filters and their individual cases, some really really important mini  DVDs and mini DVs, extra bulbs for my lights. Putting the box inside a dybox or dry cabinet....is just a matter of choice and preference...but as long as you keep adding stuff inside your dry box or dry cabinet....the more silica gels you have to put or the  you have to switch the dry cab to high to accommodate the load.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: robertalmario on March 27, 2008, 03:27:26 PM
is there any expiration for silica gel? how many months/years it will last?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: aris_delarea on March 27, 2008, 03:42:22 PM
Silica gels that are red in color means its already soaked with moisture. Fully charged silica gel is bluish in color.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: robertalmario on March 27, 2008, 03:45:39 PM
thanks!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: edison88sia on March 27, 2008, 06:07:11 PM
Be careful, not all silica gels have color indicators. The standard ones are just white.

The ones which change color are special ones that have color indicators.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: magnus on April 01, 2008, 10:52:43 PM
Be careful, not all silica gels have color indicators. The standard ones are just white.

The ones which change color are special ones that have color indicators.

I agree : i just purchased silica gels in ace hardware (sm megamall) : they change color and they also have instructions in the box if they change their color, expose them to sunlight : they are the special ones. 64.75 per box (contains 25 packets)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: purpleruthie on April 02, 2008, 01:41:44 PM
^thanks for the information. I will look for that in Ace hardware
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: shiryuu59 on April 02, 2008, 03:57:03 PM
yup... saw the silica gel at ACE... great for bags..

if u want to can but the rerchargeable silica gel at hidalgo..

watson is selling it....580 php.... work wonderfully
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: base3022 on April 02, 2008, 08:48:09 PM
@suavegabe: Nice Drybox, sir! Truly WONDERFUL! ;)
Ang ganda po ng integrated LCD. For how much does JTPhoto sell it?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: suavegabe on April 02, 2008, 10:31:19 PM
@base3022
thanks for the 'WONDERFUL' comment! ;)

bought it from JT for Php 6k straight payment via credit card with no extra charges. 
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: alexzkhy on April 03, 2008, 11:41:57 PM
I also checked the made in China dry box at Kameraworld in SM-Bacoor. Unfortunately the quality is not up to my expectations. It is being sold at P1,750. I still prefer my lock & lock plus silica gel. I just need to get hold of a good hygrometer  :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: shiryuu59 on April 04, 2008, 08:34:10 AM
I kinda noticed that when ever i open the drybox.. the humidity shoot up to 60 , when i colse it and wait for a while... it returns to 40... normal ba yan.... i am using a VAM drybox with rechargable silica gel.....

thanks
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: politik on April 04, 2008, 11:34:24 AM
I kinda noticed that when ever i open the drybox.. the humidity shoot up to 60 , when i colse it and wait for a while... it returns to 40... normal ba yan.... i am using a VAM drybox with rechargable silica gel.....

thanks

sa akin naman baligtad. when i open it, bumababa to about 50. when i close it, tumataas to about 55. i also use the vam.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: shiryuu59 on April 04, 2008, 12:41:07 PM
now... that is wierd, politik...... haw haw haw

i kinda noticed also , that it only happened when i turn off the aircon at my room... when the AC is on, the variation of the humidity is not that much.......hhmmm.... time to get that"wonderful" dry box..... ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: squiggly on April 04, 2008, 12:57:34 PM
You guys can also try checking out the drycab in aperture... 5k lang and its 2liters bigger than the "wonderful" drycab! pwede diba?!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: mobster on April 04, 2008, 01:13:13 PM
I also checked the made in China dry box at Kameraworld in SM-Bacoor. Unfortunately the quality is not up to my expectations. It is being sold at P1,750. I still prefer my lock & lock plus silica gel. I just need to get hold of a good hygrometer  :)

you can get a good quality hygrometer sa cartimar or bio research sa malls... kasi malimit gamit ito sa mga reptile enclosures.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: shiryuu59 on April 04, 2008, 04:12:27 PM
i see....

i thing that i noticed is how some people store their lens...

is it supposed to be the lens facing up .... or the lens facing down.... just a thought....
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: politik on April 04, 2008, 08:33:08 PM
now... that is wierd, politik...... haw haw haw

i kinda noticed also , that it only happened when i turn off the aircon at my room... when the AC is on, the variation of the humidity is not that much.......hhmmm.... time to get that"wonderful" dry box..... ;D

weird tlga. pero it doesnt go over 60. gusto ko na din bumili nung tig-5k na dry cabinet sa aperture. meron pa kaya?  ???
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: moonshadow on April 06, 2008, 08:24:45 AM
sa akin naman baligtad. when i open it, bumababa to about 50. when i close it, tumataas to about 55. i also use the vam.


it might be that the humidity in your room is lower than that of your dry box.  If that's the case, you don't need a dry box.  :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: politik on April 06, 2008, 08:28:45 AM
it might be that the humidity in your room is lower than that of your dry box.  If that's the case, you don't need a dry box.  :)

it might be sir. sana nga po ganun ang reason, at hindi nagloloko yung hygro. :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jdg on April 06, 2008, 10:44:45 AM
mas mura ang dry cabinet sa tay hua trading 4k lang yata.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: politik on April 06, 2008, 12:00:59 PM
sir san po yung tay hua?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: skin on April 06, 2008, 12:35:06 PM
sir san po yung tay hua?

near divisoria...

www.tayhua.com

may directions dun
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: OSORIO on April 06, 2008, 06:03:26 PM
mas mura ang dry cabinet sa tay hua trading 4k lang yata.

i was thinking of getting this one too over the 5k eureka @ aperture...anyone tried the tay hua 4k already? they also have a 2k small drybox and a 3k yata. parang ok na din yung 2k... ;D i was about to make my own diy drybox din tas i saw these items from tay hua e halos ka price din nung 2k yung gagawin ko.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: shiryuu59 on April 07, 2008, 12:29:59 AM
y dry box is just like the one in tay hua, i guess..... is it the box with blue lid?

i got the 3k, but i bought it at avenue......

ok naman sya so far.....
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: OSORIO on April 13, 2008, 10:10:54 PM
hi to all.. kamustahin ko lng lahat ng gumagamit ng wonderful auto dry cabinets.. ok ba ito?
 ano ma suggest nyo na model? and where to buy. tnx!


So far ok yung Wonderful Drycab ko. AD-040C
Got it from Mang Ramon(Mayer). Bestbuy na naman. Try nyo sakanya, lowest price guaranteed!:D
(http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/2784/wonderfulad040cqj3.jpg)





Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: thereignman on April 13, 2008, 10:14:54 PM
So far ok yung Wonderful Drycab ko. AD-040C
Got it from Mang Ramon(Mayer). Bestbuy na naman. Try nyo sakanya, lowest price guaranteed!:D
([url]http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/2784/wonderfulad040cqj3.jpg[/url])

Sir, how much po dry boxes kay Mang Ramon?





Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: OSORIO on April 13, 2008, 10:16:41 PM
adjustable yung height ng tray. pede gawing 3 levels.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: OSORIO on April 13, 2008, 10:21:53 PM


pm sent pre.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: robertalmario on April 14, 2008, 01:08:05 AM
talaga bang sealed yang dry box? as in walang nakakapasok na hangin?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: squiggly on April 14, 2008, 07:04:31 AM
Hi Pao,
How much did you get your drybox?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nycshot on April 14, 2008, 10:00:56 AM


pwede po bang malaman yung price neto? because meron din ganito sa vmall gusto ko lang magcompare ng price. pls pm the price if possible thanks!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Jargon on April 14, 2008, 11:49:32 AM
talaga bang sealed yang dry box? as in walang nakakapasok na hangin?

A dry cabinet or dry box does not need to be completely airtight to regulate the humidity inside it the same way a refrigerator does not need to be completely airtight to regulate the temperature inside it.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: OSORIO on April 14, 2008, 10:04:04 PM
So far ok yung Wonderful Drycab ko. AD-040C
Got it from Mang Ramon(Mayer). Bestbuy na naman. Try nyo sakanya, lowest price guaranteed!:D
([url]http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/2784/wonderfulad040cqj3.jpg[/url])








6k sa twincell 3rd flr virramall yung ganto(AD-040C)... inquire muna kayo kay mayer before buying, malaki difference tlga. sorry cant post the price as requested by mang ramon. tawag nlng kayo para sure na may stock before punta. libo ang diprensya! :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: OSORIO on April 14, 2008, 10:35:02 PM
My RH reading is always around 39-40%... Is this the optimum RH for our lenses/body? Safe pa kaya yung level na yun for the adhesive sa rubber nung body ng cam... Ive read sa post from aperture, na posible daw umangat yung rubber(drying of the adhesive) nung body, safe pa ba na di yun mangyari at 39-40% RH? thanks
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Jargon on April 16, 2008, 12:37:36 PM
My RH reading is always around 39-40%... Is this the optimum RH for our lenses/body? Safe pa kaya yung level na yun for the adhesive sa rubber nung body ng cam... Ive read sa post from aperture, na posible daw umangat yung rubber(drying of the adhesive) nung body, safe pa ba na di yun mangyari at 39-40% RH? thanks

40% relative humidity is actually the ideal setting. Just don't let the humidity go lower than 20% or higher than 60%.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: metalphotog15 on April 19, 2008, 09:02:01 PM
any D80 users po dito? what drybox can you recommend po?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: DE88 on April 21, 2008, 11:52:32 PM
yup! d80 user here. depending on how much gear you got. i bought a drybox for P2T. it's a clear box. it comes with a small grey box that you plugin for 1 1/2 to 2 hrs then you put it inside. has a guage that reads out the humidity. has enough room for my D80 w/ a 24-70, a 80-200 and a kit lens. could fit maybe 2 more lens inside. the box doesn't need recharging often unless your using your camera alot. it does the job.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: metalphotog15 on April 22, 2008, 06:07:42 PM
^ if i may ask, san mo po nabili?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jcjoble on April 29, 2008, 08:55:18 AM
dry box is very useful.. di lng sa mga lenses and cams natin.. pati nrin ung mga valuable things natin pwede i-store inside the dry-box.. buy eureka dry box may build-in anti-moisture and it's cheap:D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: happyday on April 30, 2008, 11:12:18 AM
dry box is very useful.. di lng sa mga lenses and cams natin.. pati nrin ung mga valuable things natin pwede i-store inside the dry-box.. buy eureka dry box may build-in anti-moisture and it's cheap:D

sang stores po mas cheap? and how much?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: photobong on April 30, 2008, 11:55:13 AM

Hello to all. Very interesting thread here.

I have an honest question (I dont intend to start an argument). I have been collecting electronic gadgets for over 12 years now; from laptops, HDs, iPod, MP3 players, film camera, video cams plus all accessories I can ever think of, now DSLR with lenses and accessories. BUT I still have not experienced any of my gadgets getting damaged because of excess air moisture. I dont own yet a dry box (but reading from this thread, I am tempted to get one). I just put them inside a cabinet (not air-tight) in my room (aircon only at night).

I just thought, that these gadgets are shipped and stored for the longest time in storage areas of the dealers, and also in the display cabinets. Does this mean that they already experienced some form of degradation due to air moisture? Im thinking of stores like the ones in hidalgo, gilmore, greenhills, even the ones inside the malls. Although some of them have airconditioning, aircon units are not turned on 24 hours. And of course we all know that these aircon units do not control humidity, only the temperature (although there are some that do).

I wanted to be sure....that's why Im thinking of getting a dry box soon. But this thought is bugging me.

Anyone cares to share his thought?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: shiryuu59 on May 04, 2008, 10:19:57 PM
that thought come cross my mind several times....but like they sais...ignorance is a bliss...... but if u know then u should do something about it, right......besides the price of a dry box is not that much comparing to ur dslr...... ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: 13th_angel on May 04, 2008, 11:32:37 PM
^ if i may ask, san mo po nabili?

i know the question wasn't addressed to me but i bought mine roughly the same capacity, roughly the same size, roughly the same price (hehe) in Twincell in greenhills. Sa V-Mall, 3rd floor yata :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: IMm29 on May 05, 2008, 09:50:30 AM
Was planning to go the Lock n Lock route, plus hygrometer from Infomaxx and some silica gel from Tru Value. Couldn't find a big and enough container, so just purchased an Am Pro Dry Box from Tru Value for about P3.9K. It's similar to the bigger blue dry box JT Photo/DP Online Seller sells, but with a digital hygrometer and dehumidifier both built in.

Not sure of the actual volume, but it fits 2 bodies, about 5 mid zooms, a portable hard disk drive and some memory cards. Still have some room to spare.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: dep28 on May 05, 2008, 10:49:26 AM
Was planning to go the Lock n Lock route, plus hygrometer from Infomaxx and some silica gel from Tru Value. Couldn't find a big and enough container, so just purchased an Am Pro Dry Box from Tru Value for about P3.9K. It's similar to the bigger blue dry box JT Photo/DP Online Seller sells, but with a digital hygrometer and dehumidifier both built in.

Not sure of the actual volume, but it fits 2 bodies, about 5 mid zooms, a portable hard disk drive and some memory cards. Still have some room to spare.

which tru value and what's the model? :) the cheapest one i found so far was from the rockwell branch at 10K pero analog yung hygrometer :) it's around 24 inches high
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: IMm29 on May 05, 2008, 10:56:01 AM
which tru value and what's the model? :) the cheapest one i found so far was from the rockwell branch at 10K pero analog yung hygrometer :) it's around 24 inches high
Dry Cab AD3828 Am Pro is the model on the receipt at Tru Value Park Square. Digital hygrometer located at the top cover. Dehumidifier at the rear of the box. Sorry, wala pa akong pix.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: shiryuu59 on May 05, 2008, 11:14:14 AM
completo ah...pati yg location...thanks...i am looking for a smaller drybox for travel purposes...wil check park square...dun naman ako every weekends....
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: eiganram on May 05, 2008, 11:22:01 AM
 ??? guys san po nkakabili ng battery operated dessicant???
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: IMm29 on May 05, 2008, 11:34:19 AM
completo ah...pati yg location...thanks...i am looking for a smaller drybox for travel purposes...wil check park square...dun naman ako every weekends....
Managed to fish out my receipt, kaya may model number, etc. Hehehe! Only one size of drybox at Tru Value Park Square as of last Friday. The rest were dry cabinets na. Dry ang wallet ko kung yun ang binili ko. Hehehe!

They also sell the plug-in/rechargeable dehumidifier. Nga lang, P2,750 yung price nun vs. DP Online Store's less than P1K.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: shiryuu59 on May 05, 2008, 07:00:33 PM
saw te ampro drybox.... ok naman yan...... digital yg hygrometer........ regarding the dehumidifier...meron sa watson.......mas murah.......
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: antwe on May 08, 2008, 03:25:31 PM
Hello to all. Very interesting thread here.

I have an honest question (I dont intend to start an argument). I have been collecting electronic gadgets for over 12 years now; from laptops, HDs, iPod, MP3 players, film camera, video cams plus all accessories I can ever think of, now DSLR with lenses and accessories. BUT I still have not experienced any of my gadgets getting damaged because of excess air moisture. I dont own yet a dry box (but reading from this thread, I am tempted to get one). I just put them inside a cabinet (not air-tight) in my room (aircon only at night).

I just thought, that these gadgets are shipped and stored for the longest time in storage areas of the dealers, and also in the display cabinets. Does this mean that they already experienced some form of degradation due to air moisture? Im thinking of stores like the ones in hidalgo, gilmore, greenhills, even the ones inside the malls. Although some of them have airconditioning, aircon units are not turned on 24 hours. And of course we all know that these aircon units do not control humidity, only the temperature (although there are some that do).

I wanted to be sure....that's why Im thinking of getting a dry box soon. But this thought is bugging me.

Anyone cares to share his thought?

Thanks!

I am thinking about this too. Forgive my ignorance but I am really new here. I am really questioning the importance of having a drybox as I have been dealing with alot of electronics and have never had the requirement of getting a drybox. Now that I am into cameras and lenses I am not so sure if they are comparable to electronic gadgets and how these are stored.

I too don't fancy starting arguments but...

Do the fungus get in the camera or the lens? or both?

I wanna share my experience with something hoping I could give you guys something to think about. When my mom saw me sporting a new SLR, she told me that she once had cameras and lenses that she would give to me. She went home, rummaged through her "antique bodega" and then returned to me the next day. She gave me a big plastic bag. I opened it and to my surprise saw two film SLR cameras. One Nikon and one Canon. Having a Nikon myself, I cared less for the Canon since I knew there was no possibility of me having a new lens with the Canon ;) I took out the Nikon and saw that it had a 28mm f/2.8 lens attached to it. Took it out, mounted it on my camera and turned to M mode. Naturally it worked. Heheh.

Then I took out the lens to inspect it further and saw that aside from the natural fading of the log, branding and labels and a few minor scratches, it was in tip top shape (according to my newbie eyes). No fungus, no worms no nothing. I asked my mom when she bought this and she told me it was way back in the 70's. Played with it a few times and never gotten the hang of it. The casing for this camera was just a simple canvass type bag. It was stored in boxes in the bodega for all those years. No drybox. The cameras had some gunk over the battery area (battery was still there) and some parts, aside from that and the obvious dust from it being stored in the "dirty bodega" it seemed okay.

Although I am scheduled to have the lens checked by a cleaner, took a few sample shots and everything seemed okay. Well, haven't really tested it exhaustively and professionally :) .

So there, hope this experience throws in some few infos. Again, I am no professional, these are just my opinions and I am in no way saying that Dry Boxes are useless. I am just as curious as you all are. Maybe the build of things back then were strong enough to keep the fungus out...or maybe.... its just a 'freak of nature type' phenomenon or maybe my mom has a drybox too ha! (just kidding, pretty sure she doesn't) :)

My two centavos.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: photobong on May 09, 2008, 01:55:03 AM
I am thinking about this too. Forgive my ignorance but I am really new here. I am really questioning the importance of having a drybox as I have been dealing with alot of electronics and have never had the requirement of getting a drybox. Now that I am into cameras and lenses I am not so sure if they are comparable to electronic gadgets and how these are stored.

I too don't fancy starting arguments but...

Do the fungus get in the camera or the lens? or both?

I wanna share my experience with something hoping I could give you guys something to think about. When my mom saw me sporting a new SLR, she told me that she once had cameras and lenses that she would give to me. She went home, rummaged through her "antique bodega" and then returned to me the next day. She gave me a big plastic bag. I opened it and to my surprise saw two film SLR cameras. One Nikon and one Canon. Having a Nikon myself, I cared less for the Canon since I knew there was no possibility of me having a new lens with the Canon ;) I took out the Nikon and saw that it had a 28mm f/2.8 lens attached to it. Took it out, mounted it on my camera and turned to M mode. Naturally it worked. Heheh.

Then I took out the lens to inspect it further and saw that aside from the natural fading of the log, branding and labels and a few minor scratches, it was in tip top shape (according to my newbie eyes). No fungus, no worms no nothing. I asked my mom when she bought this and she told me it was way back in the 70's. Played with it a few times and never gotten the hang of it. The casing for this camera was just a simple canvass type bag. It was stored in boxes in the bodega for all those years. No drybox. The cameras had some gunk over the battery area (battery was still there) and some parts, aside from that and the obvious dust from it being stored in the "dirty bodega" it seemed okay.

Although I am scheduled to have the lens checked by a cleaner, took a few sample shots and everything seemed okay. Well, haven't really tested it exhaustively and professionally :) .

So there, hope this experience throws in some few infos. Again, I am no professional, these are just my opinions and I am in no way saying that Dry Boxes are useless. I am just as curious as you all are. Maybe the build of things back then were strong enough to keep the fungus out...or maybe.... its just a 'freak of nature type' phenomenon or maybe my mom has a drybox too ha! (just kidding, pretty sure she doesn't) :)

My two centavos.


Thanks for sharing. I, too am not an expert nor a professional photographer. I dont want to start an argument about how useful dry boxes are. I just want to hear honest opinion from newbies and experts in this forum.

Today, I bought another gadget....a 400GB Lacie hard drive because I wanted to preserve all the pictures I have taken since time immemorial. Does preserving means i also need to put this electronic gadget inside the dry box? But how about the millions of electronic gadgets that are not placed in dry boxes....are we to expect them to deteriorate due to fungus attack?

Im confused actually.

Evertime I look at electronic equipment....I always ask myself how come they are not stored in dry boxes: even TVs, Components, microwave, rice cookers, PS2, PSP, cellphone, almost everything. How about cameras that are stored in dry boxes, when they are used, they are again exposed to the same harsh environment....then probably they are being attacked already by fungus.

Hmmmm....ano kaya?!?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ricj on May 10, 2008, 12:23:30 PM
Which one gives the most accurate reading, digital or analog hygrometer?
thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pinoypaparazzi on May 14, 2008, 09:23:54 AM
i used to be a cruise ship photographer, tantamount to say that our lenses and cameras are constantly exposed to moisture (and sea water).  i don't have dry box myself.  and for 8 months on the ship, i never had problems with fungus on my camera nor my lens.  the company i worked for have stocks of lenses as well on their office, which was also used on cruise ships for years, but it doesn't have any fungus on it (well, except for finger prints).  i had the camera (until i sold it) for more than 2 years before i joined as cruise ship photog, and never had this problem.

so, mga master, hehehe... indi naman po sa nagsisimula ako ng debate, but i agree with the later comments na indi namin alam totally ang purpose ng dry box.    anyone care to shed some light?

salamat po!  =)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: photobong on May 14, 2008, 11:21:31 AM
i used to be a cruise ship photographer, tantamount to say that our lenses and cameras are constantly exposed to moisture (and sea water).  i don't have dry box myself.  and for 8 months on the ship, i never had problems with fungus on my camera nor my lens.  the company i worked for have stocks of lenses as well on their office, which was also used on cruise ships for years, but it doesn't have any fungus on it (well, except for finger prints).  i had the camera (until i sold it) for more than 2 years before i joined as cruise ship photog, and never had this problem.

so, mga master, hehehe... indi naman po sa nagsisimula ako ng debate, but i agree with the later comments na indi namin alam totally ang purpose ng dry box.    anyone care to shed some light?

salamat po!  =)

Agree! I've been wanting to hear from the experts. I'm not an expert myself, so there's no point for me starting an argument. I just need to clear up my mind on this.

Sorry for the OT. Maybe the mods can direct us to the proper thread.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: yangie on May 14, 2008, 05:07:53 PM
paano malalaman kung me fungus ang camera sakin kasi sa bag ng camera sa room lang nakalagay...pati ba video camera dapat kong ilagay sa dry box? pwede ba yung mumurahin tupperware lang.?..
thanks...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: photobong on May 14, 2008, 05:26:01 PM
paano malalaman kung me fungus ang camera sakin kasi sa bag ng camera sa room lang nakalagay...pati ba video camera dapat kong ilagay sa dry box? pwede ba yung mumurahin tupperware lang.?..
thanks...

Visible yun when you peek through the glasses.

Technically, all electronic gadgets (I would assume pati relo mo at calculator). Depending on how much you want to preserve them. The idea is to protect the gadget from harsh conditions, which is the case in the Philippines. Humidity (moisture content of the air) here is rather high.

As long as the tupperware you are referring to is air-tight (no air goes in and out when locked), puwede na yun. BUT, you have to put a dehumidifier or silica gel to lower the relative humidity inside the container. You would also need a hygrometer to monitor humidity.

You might wanna browse back this thread for some DIY dry box suggestions.

But the question that is kept hanging is....do we really need to do this? Forget about the cost of doing it, cos in the long run, you will recover it from saving you gadget from damage. But how about the hassle of taking your equipment out of the bag everytime you come home, and putting them neatly in a dry box. Putting them back inside the bag, re-assembling when you disassembled them to fit inside the drybox. Not to mention monitoring that the drybox is working fine. And also the maintenance cost related to buying silica gels, electricity, etc. Just thinking out loud.

cheers!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: moonshadow on May 14, 2008, 08:11:27 PM

But the question that is kept hanging is....do we really need to do this? Forget about the cost of doing it, cos in the long run, you will recover it from saving you gadget from damage. But how about the hassle of taking your equipment out of the bag everytime you come home, and putting them neatly in a dry box. Putting them back inside the bag, re-assembling when you disassembled them to fit inside the drybox. Not to mention monitoring that the drybox is working fine. And also the maintenance cost related to buying silica gels, electricity, etc. Just thinking out loud.

cheers!

well, to each his own....no pun intended.
as they say, better safe than sorry.  I had a lens before from my old film SLR.  it had fungus infection after not being used for quite some time.  it was just placed in an ordinary camera bag.  on the contrary, i also have a jurasic video cam, stored in its semi synthetic leather videocam bag...not used for 10 years....no fungus on the viewfinder or lens.  but mold is noticeable on the leather parts.

as for the disassembling / re assembling to be placed neatly in a dry box.  it only shows how good you take care of your equipment.  by doing these type of routine, you also check your camera for dust, scratches...etc to keep them in tip top shape.

cheers. :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: yangie on May 16, 2008, 09:26:57 AM
paano kung me fungus yung lens paano linisin pwede ba irub ng cloth?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: tynn on May 16, 2008, 10:26:44 AM
paano kung me fungus yung lens paano linisin pwede ba irub ng cloth?


pagka may fungus na... kailngan mo na ng pro.... hehehe please read this thread...

http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=22023.0 (http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=22023.0)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: fganphotos on May 16, 2008, 02:44:08 PM
When I was using an SLR before, I don't have a drybox. I just leave it together with my lenses inside a cheapo camera bag. Then I went to Banaue on a rainy weekend at full fog. Hala, shoot pa din ng shoot! Sa Lumiang, kahit na tumutulo na ang tubig from the roof of the cave, patuloy pa din ang shooting. Pag-uwi ko, i just left my gears on my cam bag, then I busied myself on getting the negatives na. 3 months later, I brought my camera naman to a waterfall with mist spraying over it. 2 weeks later, nasilip ko yung lens ko at meron nang 2 small fungi colony sa gilid. Ang normal RH reading sa house namin tuwing tag-ulan is around 70% (wala pa akong hygrometer then).

Ang alam ko, mas susceptible to fungi growths (and eventual infestation) ang lenses kung mataas ang humidity. Pag hindi humid, they just lie dormant (that is, kung meron na sa loob ng lens). As food, i read they eat the oil, grease, and even lens coatings to multiply. Kung swerte ka at walang fungi spores na pumasok sa lens, kahit na tumaas pa ang humidity ay walang tutubo. Depende sa lugar at sa swerte na rin kung magka-fungi yung lens. Fungi spores I think is airborne. Yung Canon T50 at 28/35mm lens ng mom ko nagka-fungi na rin dahil sa bodega lang itinago for more than 20 years. Apparently may fungi spores sa bodega namin. :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: paolotm on May 18, 2008, 03:48:36 AM
i've read in one of the posts in this thread, as long as you use your gear once a week, you gear is not as susceptible to developing fungus. Like mentioned in one of the posts if your gear is exposed to an environment were fungus spores are abundant or present, there is the risk of it getting contaminated, specially if our cameras and lenses are not weather sealed, which is the case for most models these days.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: photobong on May 18, 2008, 06:14:23 PM

I was shopping around yesterday for a good dry box. I also checked the lock n lock container. It just dawned on me that an ice chest (ie. coleman) is also air-tight. Does anyone here use an ice chest, dehumudifier, hygrometer setup? Isnt it also convenient and cheap. Since most household have at least one ice chest at home, which is not used everyday and only gets stocked accumulating dirt. Can it be used to assemble a DIY dry box?

How about an old refrigerator, which is also air-tight and huge!!? Hehehe.

:)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Jargon on May 19, 2008, 02:01:00 PM
I was shopping around yesterday for a good dry box. I also checked the lock n lock container. It just dawned on me that an ice chest (ie. coleman) is also air-tight. Does anyone here use an ice chest, dehumudifier, hygrometer setup? Isnt it also convenient and cheap. Since most household have at least one ice chest at home, which is not used everyday and only gets stocked accumulating dirt. Can it be used to assemble a DIY dry box?

How about an old refrigerator, which is also air-tight and huge!!? Hehehe.

:)

The problem with using opaque containers is that you won't be able to see the reading of the hygrometer inside without opening the container.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: IMm29 on May 19, 2008, 02:14:57 PM
The problem with using opaque containers is that you won't be able to see the reading of the hygrometer inside without opening the container.
True, unless you go thru the trouble of carving out and replacing a portion with clear plastic or the like so that the hygrometer can be mounted there ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: CMT on May 19, 2008, 02:22:54 PM
The problem with using opaque containers is that you won't be able to see the reading of the hygrometer inside without opening the container.

Based on the moisture absorber I am using, even quarterly re-charging will be fine if you do not open it for that period. Safe would be monthly re-charging. You do not really have to always take a reading. You'd find a 'comfortable' interval based on what you use and how you use it.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: fried_adobo on May 29, 2008, 04:46:25 PM
buti na lang nabasa ko ito. makabili na nga din ng diy drybox. salamat po sa mga nag-inputs.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: theveed on May 30, 2008, 01:13:39 AM
The observations about shops/storage warehouses/off-site camera gear not getting fungus are keen. It doesn't make sense that gears like those just go kapoot in fungus because of storage and humidity.

If humidity alone causes fungal infection on glass and electronics, shouldn't our windows, refs, TV sets, etc all be gardens by now?

Most fungal growth on glass starts with dust seeping into the edges of the element and coupled with moisture and other factors (most probably a nearby fungal growth in the storage area) that causes lens fungus growth.

I have 4 Minolta lenses before that were broken (dropped) and I ended up leaving them in a bodega for over 6 years. It's very, very humid inside since it has very little ventilation and it's packed with all sorts of fabrics, books and other knick knacks. None of those lenses had any fungus when I cleared out the bodega last year. None of the filters did, none of the two SLRs and one film P&S had anything growing in and on them. Those Minolta gears have gone through rain, snow, sea, and other conditions over the last 10 years - and I never baby my stuff...

I have a 1957 camera right now and I'm sure it has never seen a "dry box" in its lifetime, the leather is all cracked and smelly, but the lens has no spots, dust or fungus at all, neither does the viewfinder.

But as they say, can't hurt having a dedicated storage bin for your gears. At the bare minimum, you end up having a much more organized storage instead of dumping your stuff into a box (which I still do hehe).

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: honeyyoung on May 31, 2008, 10:34:01 PM
Forgive my ignorance, but hindi ba pwedeng sa camera bag lang i-keep ang equipment and lagyan nalang ang bag ng dessicant to absorb moisture? 

My husband had a nikon film slr na nasira kasi nag-leak yung battery, he just kept it in a cabinet with some unused stuff in an unused room.  When i started with photography, he suddenly remembered na he had that camera and took it out.  Of course, the body can no longer be used cause nasira nga, but the lens was perfectly fine.  Since my dslr is a canon, hindi ko magamit yung lens nya, so we gave it to a friend that had a nikon.  Okey naman daw, no fungi or anything.

I have been thinking of buying a drybox but after seeing the condition of my husband's lens na nakatambak lang, i'm having second thoughts.  Hindi ba enough yung dessicant sa bag with the cam and lenses and just keep the bag closed at all times?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: dotski14 on June 03, 2008, 02:31:31 PM
This is interesting. why do sometimes nagkakafungus minsan hindi? But they are right, prevention is better than cure. I used an improvised one. Please, yung mga masters natin dito sa camera, pls tell me if tama ginawa ko. I bought a Lock and sealed plastic container sa SM na worth P600. It can hold my camera w/ lens and has room for more. Tapos, I bought this dehumidifier sa ace hardhardware worth P60, yung pang cabinet. ang downside nga lng e may ibang smell yung dehumidifier. Mga sirs, again please tell me kung advisable tong ginawa ko. tnx sirs!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: IMm29 on June 04, 2008, 08:01:42 AM
Forgive my ignorance, but hindi ba pwedeng sa camera bag lang i-keep ang equipment and lagyan nalang ang bag ng dessicant to absorb moisture? 

My husband had a nikon film slr na nasira kasi nag-leak yung battery, he just kept it in a cabinet with some unused stuff in an unused room.  When i started with photography, he suddenly remembered na he had that camera and took it out.  Of course, the body can no longer be used cause nasira nga, but the lens was perfectly fine.  Since my dslr is a canon, hindi ko magamit yung lens nya, so we gave it to a friend that had a nikon.  Okey naman daw, no fungi or anything.

I have been thinking of buying a drybox but after seeing the condition of my husband's lens na nakatambak lang, i'm having second thoughts.  Hindi ba enough yung dessicant sa bag with the cam and lenses and just keep the bag closed at all times?
Well, prevention is better than cure indeed. Perhaps the cabinet was with relatively low humidity, perhaps no fungus was ever on the lens in the past, thus, despite just being kept in the cabinet, since there was no fungus in the first place, there was nothing to cultivate.

The downside of the drybox, to me, is the cost. Nga lang, just to play safe, I got one for my gear. Like theveed mentioned, it's a way of having an organized storage space, at the bare minimum.

So, if based on your husband's experience, you feel that the dessicant in your camera bag is enough for you, go ahead with it. It may be enough prevention already, for as long as your camera isn't exposed to very humid conditions on a regular basis when you shoot. I think there was a poster here who took his camera to a foggy/rainy environment and didn't use a dry box. Fungus eventually developed.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: IMm29 on June 04, 2008, 08:03:00 AM
This is interesting. why do sometimes nagkakafungus minsan hindi? But they are right, prevention is better than cure. I used an improvised one. Please, yung mga masters natin dito sa camera, pls tell me if tama ginawa ko. I bought a Lock and sealed plastic container sa SM na worth P600. It can hold my camera w/ lens and has room for more. Tapos, I bought this dehumidifier sa ace hardhardware worth P60, yung pang cabinet. ang downside nga lng e may ibang smell yung dehumidifier. Mga sirs, again please tell me kung advisable tong ginawa ko. tnx sirs!
What's the brand of the dehumidifier? I think there's a type of dehumidifier for refs that shouldn't be used for your drybox. Please read up on previous pages. I forget the brand.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Cookies on June 04, 2008, 09:31:27 AM
we use lock&lock.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: dotski14 on June 04, 2008, 09:54:27 AM
yikes! masama pala yung dehumidifier! i removed it agad ampts!!! lockand lock pala yung akin! sorry for the wrong info. where can you buy cheap hydrometers? and silica gels? thanks IMm29!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: IMm29 on June 04, 2008, 01:04:29 PM
yikes! masama pala yung dehumidifier! i removed it agad ampts!!! lockand lock pala yung akin! sorry for the wrong info. where can you buy cheap hydrometers? and silica gels? thanks IMm29!
i think you're referring to hyGrometers. they have at infomaxx in park square 1, mga P800 and up ata. meron din daw sa Blade at SM, but you have to be looking for a 'digital thermometer with clock' or something similar in SM, coz many don't know what a hygro is.

silica gels are available at true value, but for bigger quantities, i think there are some at UP. not sure. check out paolotm's post on silica gels.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: dotski14 on June 04, 2008, 07:56:08 PM
hahah another stupidity again! im soooo embarrassed.. hygro pla! i was thinking of another thing. thanks IMm29!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: udk113 on June 04, 2008, 08:13:20 PM
im planning for a stroll in MOA tomorrow! and DIY Dry box came into my mind. Thank you guys for this thread.

But my question is, can i find all of this materials in MOA?
ex. silica gel, hygrometer. and where to buy it.

TIA
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jeyps11_c on June 04, 2008, 08:39:52 PM
Got the L&L today plus a non-slip mat.
Hygro and Silica Gels na lang :) I'm off to SM this week :)

Question: The silica gels stores are selling (Ace, DIY, TV etc) -- the one in a clear plastic puch -- do I need to open it or I just put it inside as is. I am just curious how it absorbs moisture when its inside a sealed plastic  ???
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: honeyyoung on June 04, 2008, 11:10:06 PM
Well, prevention is better than cure indeed. Perhaps the cabinet was with relatively low humidity, perhaps no fungus was ever on the lens in the past, thus, despite just being kept in the cabinet, since there was no fungus in the first place, there was nothing to cultivate.

The downside of the drybox, to me, is the cost. Nga lang, just to play safe, I got one for my gear. Like theveed mentioned, it's a way of having an organized storage space, at the bare minimum.

So, if based on your husband's experience, you feel that the dessicant in your camera bag is enough for you, go ahead with it. It may be enough prevention already, for as long as your camera isn't exposed to very humid conditions on a regular basis when you shoot. I think there was a poster here who took his camera to a foggy/rainy environment and didn't use a dry box. Fungus eventually developed.

Thank you, sir.  After reading this thread, gagawan nalang daw ako ni hubby ng drybox, haha!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: salaryman on June 05, 2008, 06:01:15 PM

Just wanted to ask a dumb question. can a dry cabinet be stored on its side. meaning not upright? If its a ref. putting it on its side is a big no no. as you need to put it upright for 24 hour (so freon will go down) before you can use it. does the dry cabinet have any coolant or something? Can i just start it after setting it upright? Thanks


OT it costs as much as a smail ref
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: salaryman on June 05, 2008, 11:34:37 PM
Just wanted to ask a dumb question. can a dry cabinet be stored on its side. meaning not upright? If its a ref. putting it on its side is a big no no. as you need to put it upright for 24 hour (so freon will go down) before you can use it. does the dry cabinet have any coolant or something? Can i just start it after setting it upright? Thanks


OT it costs as much as a smail ref


just put my wonderful dry cabinet upright and turn on the power. the humidity drop to 35% after 1 hour. so it has no effect if the dry cabinet have been lying at its side.



Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Jargon on June 06, 2008, 11:52:39 AM
Just wanted to ask a dumb question. can a dry cabinet be stored on its side. meaning not upright? If its a ref. putting it on its side is a big no no. as you need to put it upright for 24 hour (so freon will go down) before you can use it. does the dry cabinet have any coolant or something? Can i just start it after setting it upright? Thanks

The typical dry cabinet simply uses a solid desiccant to absorb the moisture. So the orientation of the dry cabinet shouldn't matter.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: madmax168 on June 06, 2008, 07:31:42 PM
I'm gonna build me one of these dry boxes this weekend. Hopefully, I can get the necessary items.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Nizhots on June 09, 2008, 05:12:50 AM
Mga sir....

question po.. kung wala pang dry box.. pwede palagi ito sa bag? at nakalagay sa loob nang cabinet (wooden type)

kailangan po ba dapat palagi naka alis ang battery at memory nito sa camera..??

Thank you
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: paolotm on June 10, 2008, 07:57:19 AM
Hello! To pipho pips who have experience in recharging their silica gels using microwave oven, after heating how long do you let it cool down before using it or placing it back with your gear? How much silica gels do you recharge at a time? (1 cup?) Appreciate your inputs, thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pubert on June 10, 2008, 08:09:23 AM
a cup of silica gel might generate too much heat.

some notes about drying silica gels in a microwave oven here:
http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=4948.0
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: daney_waney on June 22, 2008, 09:03:51 PM
for those using electronic dryboxes, something weird happened to mine. this morning i checked it and it was at 40. now its at 70!! I did not even open my drybox today. Could it be a glitch? Or is there something wrong with my drybox??
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: IMm29 on June 23, 2008, 08:20:54 AM
for those using electronic dryboxes, something weird happened to mine. this morning i checked it and it was at 40. now its at 70!! I did not even open my drybox today. Could it be a glitch? Or is there something wrong with my drybox??
hmmm... perhaps the electronic dehumidifier malfunctioned? or someone played with the manual air release valve? or someone opened for some time and shut it a few minutes before you had a look? in my AmPro's case, i keep it at about 35%. when i open it even for just a short period to get or place gear, it goes up to 50-60%.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: salaryman on June 23, 2008, 08:48:43 AM
for those using electronic dryboxes, something weird happened to mine. this morning i checked it and it was at 40. now its at 70!! I did not even open my drybox today. Could it be a glitch? Or is there something wrong with my drybox??

my wonderful brand drybox does the same thing. from 35% it goes up to 55% w/o anyone touching it. then the function light lights up at 60% sfter w/c it goes back to 35%... works like a ref. i thought it was normal, after our drybox are not supposed to be airtight, am i right?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pubert on June 23, 2008, 10:10:40 AM
i'm also using a wonderful drybox and experience the same thing... but i think its just ok. it happens during the stage where the dessicant (molecular sieves i think) in the dessicator unit are being recharged by heat (this is when the pilot lamp is on). I think the valve between the dessicant chamber and the inside of the dry box is not air tight -that's why some of the moisture being expelled during the recharging stage escapes into the drybox instead of being dumped outside. After this stage the heating stops the "recharged" dessicants start to absorb moisture again and the humidity levels go down again. It doesn't bother me as it happens for a relatively short time and the humidity level is not too bad (its just as if you opened the drybox door for a while). Is this specific to the Wonderful brand? Maybe the Eureka brand has valves that seal better?


from theEureka Website (http://www.eurekadrytech.com/tech01.aspx)
Quote
([url]http://www.eurekadrytech.com/images/spic09.jpg[/url])

Moisture Is Expelled Automatically By The Dry Unit.

Absorption Stage:
The valves are opened inwards and closed outwards in order to absorb moisture inside the Auto DryBox the desiccants in the Dry Unit.

Exhaustion Stage:
The valves are opened outwards and closed inwards in order to exhaust moisture out of the Auto DryBox from saturated desiccants in the Dry Unit.

Both the stages will cycle automatically. The whole process is controlled by Shape Memory Alloy & an I.C. Timer.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: cupkeyk on June 23, 2008, 11:07:26 AM
Hello!

Help, ayaw na bumaba sa 60% yung humidity ng custom drybox ko, bakit ganun? Pinalitan ko naman siya ng new set ng silica gels. :( Pero dati maintaining niya is 54-55%. Napapaisip tuloy ako bumili ng totoong drybox.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: salaryman on June 23, 2008, 06:27:23 PM
thanks Sir Pubert for clarifying the matter. i really feel that my dry cabinet is a worthwhile purchase, keeps my stuff organized. i even put my old film negatives and my stamp collection in it.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: daney_waney on June 24, 2008, 10:11:03 AM
my wonderful brand drybox does the same thing. from 35% it goes up to 55% w/o anyone touching it. then the function light lights up at 60% sfter w/c it goes back to 35%... works like a ref. i thought it was normal, after our drybox are not supposed to be airtight, am i right?

It's now back to 40. I'm using a Eureka drybox. Weird thing though is it says in the manual that its supposed to go as low as 35 when its set to high. I set mine to high and the lowest it has ever been is 40. Maybe there's something wrong with electronic dessicant? Which one is the heat pilot lamp? The one inside or outside?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: neilc on June 29, 2008, 08:03:32 AM
Getting a drybox is just okay if you have the money.  The best thing that will keep the fungus away from your gears is to use it regularly. This is what my photography professor told me :)

I have a Lock&Lock box and a hydrometer and some silica gels to keep my gears safe for long periods of non-usage.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: drjunc on June 29, 2008, 05:43:11 PM
hello guys, im new here..just saw an ampro drybox at true value worth around 4th, is this a good buy?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: sneekens on June 30, 2008, 09:22:25 AM
I've noticed my hygrometer reading from 52 down to 47 inside my drybox without silica gels... hmmm... just wondering how can this happen?? It was never opened during the weekend.. Anyone of you guys have this experience? BTW, temp ranges from 27-29 deg. C.

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: mack_kunichiro on June 30, 2008, 09:39:33 AM
I've noticed my hygrometer reading from 52 down to 47 inside my drybox without silica gels... hmmm... just wondering how can this happen?? It was never opened during the weekend.. Anyone of you guys have this experience? BTW, temp ranges from 27-29 deg. C.



same experience po. what i did was to tap slightly my hygrometer (analog). i dont know po kung digital hygro mo or analog din. parang inantok lang ata yung spring mechanism sa loob dahil nga humid at wala pa silica gels. but nung nilagyan ko, nag reading 50 na at stable na pag closed. tataas ng konti pag open ko tapos balik din sa 50.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: sneekens on June 30, 2008, 06:43:10 PM
same experience po. what i did was to tap slightly my hygrometer (analog). i dont know po kung digital hygro mo or analog din. parang inantok lang ata yung spring mechanism sa loob dahil nga humid at wala pa silica gels. but nung nilagyan ko, nag reading 50 na at stable na pag closed. tataas ng konti pag open ko tapos balik din sa 50.

sir, mine is digital...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: mack_kunichiro on June 30, 2008, 10:08:04 PM
may na post na ata sir dito about calibrating hygrometer na digital. paki-correct na lang po kung mali ako.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: IMm29 on July 01, 2008, 09:49:21 AM
hello guys, im new here..just saw an ampro drybox at true value worth around 4th, is this a good buy?
That's the one I'm using. So far, so good. Maingay lang yun lock niya, kala mo mababasag yung plastic, pero matibay naman. Had mine for about 2 plus months now. Buo pa ;)

The thing I like about it, though it's smaller (and a bit cheaper) than a Dry Cabinet, it's portable. When I had to move my gear to a different location, I didn't have a problem lifting and transferring it.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: obettapang on July 02, 2008, 01:52:18 PM
napapaisip tuloy ako kung kailangan ba ito o gastos lang.
entry level lang kasi slr ko. d40. hehe
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: brangcow on July 02, 2008, 02:37:40 PM
I'm just a hobbyist, and I use my camera almost everyday. Do I still need this?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: IMm29 on July 02, 2008, 05:07:59 PM
@obettapang and brangcow,
As mentioned previously in this thread, the decision to have a drybox is up to you. If you think it's a waste of money, or your budget is better allotted to a lens or the like, then forego the drybox. Many have had cameras and gear not stored in dryboxes that were safe from molds, and worked perfectly right out of the box (or whatever storage space they came from).

As for me, getting the drybox is my ounce of prevention. Having heard some horror stories, I don't think I can afford the pound of cure. I don't shoot too often, but when I do, the conditions are not extreme, so really, perhaps just keeping my gear in a bag with silica gels is enough. I just didn't want to take the risk though. Better for me to spend so as to err on the side of caution.

If you wanna risk it, since you think you're just a hobbyist or that your dslr is only entry level, that's really up to you. I'm also only a hobbyist, and my gear's far from Pro level. I hear, too, if you use your gear often enough in dry environments, it's safe from getting molds.

Now, if you want to be safe but don't think you can afford a dedicated drybox, check this thread and you'll find a few DIY options for a fraction of the price. It's convenient to have something like a drybox for organization purposes as well.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: rjaySEVEN on July 02, 2008, 05:41:05 PM
@obettapang and brangcow,
As mentioned previously in this thread, the decision to have a drybox is up to you. If you think it's a waste of money, or your budget is better allotted to a lens or the like, then forego the drybox. Many have had cameras and gear not stored in dryboxes that were safe from molds, and worked perfectly right out of the box (or whatever storage space they came from).

As for me, getting the drybox is my ounce of prevention. Having heard some horror stories, I don't think I can afford the pound of cure. I don't shoot too often, but when I do, the conditions are not extreme, so really, perhaps just keeping my gear in a bag with silica gels is enough. I just didn't want to take the risk though. Better for me to spend so as to err on the side of caution.

If you wanna risk it, since you think you're just a hobbyist or that your dslr is only entry level, that's really up to you. I'm also only a hobbyist, and my gear's far from Pro level. I hear, too, if you use your gear often enough in dry environments, it's safe from getting molds.

Now, if you want to be safe but don't think you can afford a dedicated drybox, check this thread and you'll find a few DIY options for a fraction of the price. It's convenient to have something like a drybox for organization purposes as well.

so true...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: sneekens on July 04, 2008, 01:23:22 AM
napapaisip tuloy ako kung kailangan ba ito o gastos lang.
entry level lang kasi slr ko. d40. hehe

sir, kailangan niyo ito to prevent molds and gastos po ito since your are spending for it anyways. Decision is yours, but there's a saying, "prevention is better than cure".
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: photobong on July 04, 2008, 03:37:53 AM
sir, kailangan niyo ito to prevent molds and gastos po ito since your are spending for it anyways. Decision is yours, but there's a saying, "prevention is better than cure".

but if prevention costs us significantly, better go to statistics to see if it's worth preventing the unexpected. is there statistics to show how common molds attack our lenses? even if your lens get molds, i was told you can still use it.

also, we better tell lens sellers and dealers that "prevention is better than cure" and have all the lenses they are selling stored in dryboxes instead of the unprotected cabinets of theirs. are they not exposed to overwhelming threat of molds considering the amount of inventory of lenses they carry? but then, most of them dont get to use dry boxes. at least i dont see one yet.

it's just me thinking out loud.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: IMm29 on July 04, 2008, 08:55:09 AM
but if prevention costs us significantly, better go to statistics to see if it's worth preventing the unexpected. is there statistics to show how common molds attack our lenses? even if your lens get molds, i was told you can still use it.

also, we better tell lens sellers and dealers that "prevention is better than cure" and have all the lenses they are selling stored in dryboxes instead of the unprotected cabinets of theirs. are they not exposed to overwhelming threat of molds considering the amount of inventory of lenses they carry? but then, most of them dont get to use dry boxes. at least i dont see one yet.

it's just me thinking out loud.

Cheers!
Well, that's why there are DIY and cheaper options for dry storage, so you can still protect your gear without having such a large hole in your pocket, if you saw the need for extra gear protection. If you don't think there is a need for extra protection via dry storage, then there is no problem.  :)

As to statistics, haven't read up on them, if there are any. My understanding on molds and fungus on camera gear is simple, and perhaps not scientific. But then, this is just me. Once you get some mold or fungus on your gear, (coz maybe you were out shooting in foggy Tagaytay at night to early morning, and it rained or drizzled, and you fell asleep having a few beers before securing your camera) and you leave them in an environment humid enough for the molds and fungus to thrive, then they will thrive. However, if you don't get any on your gear, coz maybe you use them often enough, in an environment not humid enough, then keeping said gear in storage areas that are not very humid will not allow the growth of said molds and fungus. I can't say for sure what is "humid enough" or "often enough", though. I just played safe and got the box.

Yes, you can still use a lens with some molds on it, perhaps if these were just starting to form, but once there's a grown colony, I would think it would look like you opening your eyes for the first time in the morning without washing your face - enough to see, but not clear enough. Haven't gotten to this point with the lenses, so I can only imagine. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Have only seen lens sellers in malls. Haven't been to Hidalgo yet. I think the environment of the sellers in malls may not be humid enough to infect a clean and mostly sealed or covered lens and allow molds to grow on them.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: sneekens on July 04, 2008, 09:40:58 PM
but if prevention costs us significantly, better go to statistics to see if it's worth preventing the unexpected. is there statistics to show how common molds attack our lenses? even if your lens get molds, i was told you can still use it.

statistics?? it will cost more to get an official "statistics" just for your satisfaction.. I did my prevention (DIY drybox) for Php. 2,000.00 including silica gels, some did theirs at a lesser cost. I just wonder how much you spent for your equipment, and still trying to justify 2,000.00 bucks if it is really worth having a drybox... ??? Two grand?? Oh well...

Btw, interested in my old lens with fungus? You can still use it right? Oh, too bad its for a Nikon..:(

2 grand?? or statistics?? 2 grand?? or statistics?? 2 grand?? or statistics?? 2 grand?? or statistics??! ::)
And you answer: (drum roll please..) "better go to statistics to see if it's worth preventing the unexpected"  ;D  ::)

If 2,000.00 bucks is too much to ask for a drybox, then maybe "statistics" is worth the wait... ;D

also, we better tell lens sellers and dealers that "prevention is better than cure" and have all the lenses they are selling stored in dryboxes instead of the unprotected cabinets of theirs. are they not exposed to overwhelming threat of molds considering the amount of inventory of lenses they carry? but then, most of them dont get to use dry boxes. at least i dont see one yet.

I don't care on how "lens sellers and dealers" keep their "inventory of lenses", they are not mine anyways... haha! and I don't mind seeing them " exposed to overwhelming threat of molds" as long as I get my brand new purchase in perfect brand new condition... Just in case you find molds in a brand new lens from your "lens sellers and dealers", I'll give you a good advice, don't get it. ;D :P haha, or use your warranty!!


it's just me thinking out loud.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: 13th_angel on July 04, 2008, 11:19:07 PM
Easy lang  ;D

Anyway, yes, lenses with molds/fungus growth are usable but I wouldn't want to use them because they might infect/grow on my sensor. Yes - they do grow and multiply like... rabbits! Hehe

It's your gear, it's up to you. I don't use my gear all the time that's why I opted for a drybox. For me, it's not the cost of getting my lenses/sensor cleaned but rather, the hassle of not being able to use them when I need or want to because there's too much molds/fungus/whatever in there.

My 2 cents on the matter  :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: photobong on July 05, 2008, 02:08:56 AM

hahaha! +1 13th_angel! easy lang piphols....

As i said, it's just me thinking out loud. No intention to push my ideas on anyone. You know, sometimes there are things bothering you and suddenly you talk about it. But you were only talking to yourself. :)

Let's close this episode and move on to regular programming.

Sori mods for the mess. You might want to clean it up.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Kun3ho on July 14, 2008, 08:05:36 PM
@ 5k may wonderful electronic drybox ka na. imho mas convenient to and better buy in the long run. anyways isang gastusan lang naman to, pag kinita mo na next month yung 5k sasabihin mo sa sarili mo buti isang gastusan na lang ginawa ko. nakasaksak na sya 24/7 @ very minimal power consumption as in mas malakas pa kumusumo charger ng cellphone bset of all ayos na ayos ang storage mo ng investment mo or should i say pinakamamahal nating toys. :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: rg7000 on July 15, 2008, 06:00:48 PM
hello piphols, what brand of dry cabinet do you recommend? thanks  :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: yurax on July 20, 2008, 10:17:35 PM
my drybox is also a DIY dry box.

bought the L&L air tight case w/ handle plus silica gels (25 mini packs) and a non slip mat.

malamig kasi sa car so nagmomoist so pati yun dala ko. that's why i bought the L&L na may handle.

my only problem is the hygrometer haha  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: edison88sia on July 20, 2008, 11:14:59 PM
Hello Piphols, i got my 40 liter electronic dry cabinet from Tay Hua Trading for P2000 only. Reason for the big discount is that the original hygrometer was defective but the store replaced it an off the shelf hygrometer.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: etotan on July 21, 2008, 09:51:58 PM
Hello Piphols, i got my 40 liter electronic dry cabinet from Tay Hua Trading for P2000 only. Reason for the big discount is that the original hygrometer was defective but the store replaced it an off the shelf hygrometer.


wow meron pa kaya sila ganun?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: edison88sia on July 21, 2008, 10:03:48 PM
regular price is P4000. natsambahan ko lang. that was the display unit.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: cupkeyk on August 01, 2008, 01:14:48 PM
mura talaga sa Tay Hua...nag inquire rin ako dun eh, pwede mo rin pa-ship, la pa nga lang ako budget, kaya hindi makabili, so stay muna ako sa DIY.  :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: browndwarf on August 08, 2008, 03:10:12 PM
Will visit them on of these days. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: robpinzon on August 08, 2008, 05:20:00 PM
DIY user here. :) My Hygro meter is currently on 49%
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: briboinks on August 10, 2008, 07:37:57 PM
That's the one I'm using. So far, so good. Maingay lang yun lock niya, kala mo mababasag yung plastic, pero matibay naman. Had mine for about 2 plus months now. Buo pa ;)

The thing I like about it, though it's smaller (and a bit cheaper) than a Dry Cabinet, it's portable. When I had to move my gear to a different location, I didn't have a problem lifting and transferring it.

same here!  ;)  onga ingay ! hahaha. i hope the the reading's battery will last though
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: briboinks on August 10, 2008, 07:57:36 PM
ask ko lang, i store my lenses facing downwards with the included pouch , ok lang ba ? or it should be the other way around?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Melwyn B. Alamag on August 11, 2008, 09:58:57 AM
ask ko lang, i store my lenses facing downwards with the included pouch , ok lang ba ? or it should be the other way around?

alam ko no bearing whether you store it facing downwards or the other way around or naka tagilid.  but let's wait for the masters reply ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: mazdamazda on August 12, 2008, 11:03:47 AM
ask ko lang, i store my lenses facing downwards with the included pouch , ok lang ba ? or it should be the other way around?

Just use your gear regularly this is not a problem.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: shutt3rz on August 13, 2008, 01:05:37 PM
My Dry box is DIY. Bought a medium sized Lock & Lock container and bought a couple of silica gels and use it to store my gear. Haven't found a hygrometer yet so I just place couple of bags of silica gels inside and hope for the best.  :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: robpinzon on August 13, 2008, 01:09:09 PM
You need one, gels are useless without the meter, pag basa na sila. Cheers.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pareng dencio on August 13, 2008, 01:09:43 PM
saan na nga po ulit sa UP nakaka bili ng silica gel???
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: robpinzon on August 13, 2008, 01:10:41 PM
Ace hardware
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pareng dencio on August 13, 2008, 01:14:50 PM
Ace hardware

me Ace Hardware ba sa UP??? :(

i have heard there's somewhere in UP that you can buy silica gel by bulk (per kilo).

tnx anyway
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: robpinzon on August 13, 2008, 01:16:20 PM
me ace hardware ba sa UP??? :(

i have heard there's somewhere in UP that you can buy silica gel by bulk(per kilo).

tnx anyway

hahahaah mali. :) UP clark ata sinabi ko. CHuri....
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: photobong on August 13, 2008, 01:18:48 PM
me Ace Hardware ba sa UP??? :(

i have heard there's somewhere in UP that you can buy silica gel by bulk (per kilo).

tnx anyway

pareng dencio, may hardware sa shopping center ng UP pero hindi yun ACE. hehehe.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pareng dencio on August 13, 2008, 01:22:04 PM
pareng dencio, may hardware sa shopping center ng UP pero hindi yun ACE. hehehe.

so dun nakaka bili ng silica gel na por kilo? san ba yun? ligaw ako sa loob ng UP e. tnx bro
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: photobong on August 13, 2008, 01:35:28 PM

sa bandang tandang sora ka ata papasok no? pag pasok mo, sundan mo lang yung mga jeep going RIGHT. tatlong tambling na lang shopping center na. ang landmark mo yung UP Health Center (infirmatay ng UP) at your right and Church na bilog sa left. after ng dalawang yun, Shopping center na yung nasa Right. Park at the back. Ang hardware nasa bandang gitna. Konti lang naman shops dun para mawala ka pa.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: joya on August 13, 2008, 01:49:20 PM
You need one, gels are useless without the meter, pag basa na sila. Cheers.

rspinzon is right, you have to monitor the status of your silica gels through a hygrometer.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ayokis on August 16, 2008, 10:37:44 AM
wild question. Does a silica gel expire? how about its lifespan?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: atrytone on August 18, 2008, 09:28:47 AM
Hello Piphols, i got my 40 liter electronic dry cabinet from Tay Hua Trading for P2000 only. Reason for the big discount is that the original hygrometer was defective but the store replaced it an off the shelf hygrometer.


saan po makikita 'yang Tay Hua Trading?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: fortuner13 on August 18, 2008, 08:20:25 PM
http://www.tayhua.com/drybox.html
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: aris_delarea on August 20, 2008, 01:14:11 PM
Good Pm to everyone,

Tanong lang po, Kung ang lens ba ay Dust and Moisture resistant na, does this mean na hindi na ito magkakaroon ng fungus???? tnx.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Jargon on August 20, 2008, 03:07:53 PM
Good Pm to everyone,

Tanong lang po, Kung ang lens ba ay Dust and Moisture resistant na, does this mean na hindi na ito magkakaroon ng fungus???? tnx.

No. Most of my lenses are weather-sealed. I still keep them in a dry cabinet.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: SeanPH on August 20, 2008, 03:17:22 PM
hey guys, i just want to ask where we can buy locally a digital hygrometer?
or who is selling. thanks
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: wwonka on August 20, 2008, 03:28:19 PM
try infomax....... dami pa... especially at vmall......
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kemikopulens on August 22, 2008, 08:23:26 AM
hey guys, i just want to ask where we can buy locally a digital hygrometer?
or who is selling. thanks
Just visited informaxx trinoma two weeks ago it cost around 780 to 900 pesos
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: robpinzon on August 22, 2008, 09:40:43 AM
Ask for a discount, you can get it at around 700 pesos.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: cj on August 22, 2008, 09:45:15 AM
yeah infomaxx do give discounts basta tatawad ka lang  ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urfoolingmyleeg on August 22, 2008, 08:20:29 PM
guys,

ill be travelling to canada for a month soon. ill probably be using my camera almost everyday. should i be concerned about fungus? or would this be overthinking?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: photobong on August 23, 2008, 05:42:39 PM

ang alam ko sa humid countries nagkakaron ng fungus growth. canada is far from being humid.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Jargon on August 23, 2008, 08:11:20 PM
guys,

ill be travelling to canada for a month soon. ill probably be using my camera almost everyday. should i be concerned about fungus? or would this be overthinking?

Using the camera everyday should keep the fungus away. Just make sure the place where you store the camera is clean and dry.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urfoolingmyleeg on August 23, 2008, 10:26:53 PM
ok thanks guys! appreciate the input. :) dala nalang ako hygrometer to check. sorry, OC talaga eh. hehe.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: victorvelasques on August 23, 2008, 10:33:49 PM
wild question. Does a silica gel expire? how about its lifespan?

it doesn't you just have to recycle it
Fungus is singular
Fungi is the plural form,more than one organism can infect the lens so the correct term is fungi
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: eww14 on August 23, 2008, 10:48:46 PM
Just bought a Eureka Drybox from Aperture, yung Hygrometer reading sa room nasa 43 kahit hindi pa naka on, baka hindi ko na kailangan isaksak  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: alpha-q on August 24, 2008, 11:14:23 AM
it doesn't you just have to recycle it
Fungus is singular
Fungi is the plural form,more than one organism can infect the lens so the correct term is fungi

how do you recycle them?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: photobong on August 25, 2008, 12:29:23 AM

ibilad mo lang para matuyo.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: IMm29 on August 26, 2008, 08:50:34 AM
Just bought a Eureka Drybox from Aperture, yung Hygrometer reading sa room nasa 43 kahit hindi pa naka on, baka hindi ko na kailangan isaksak  ;D
check the instructions. the Am-Pro i'm using had to be plugged-in initially for about 8-12 hours, i think, prior to putting any gear in. mine's always plugged in. the pilot light, indicating whether the dehumidifier kicks in or is in operation, just turns on and off depending on the hygro's reading.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: eww14 on August 29, 2008, 10:28:00 PM
check the instructions. the Am-Pro i'm using had to be plugged-in initially for about 8-12 hours, i think, prior to putting any gear in. mine's always plugged in. the pilot light, indicating whether the dehumidifier kicks in or is in operation, just turns on and off depending on the hygro's reading.
I already followed the instructions, so far so good, the RH level is usually at 40+
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kemikopulens on September 08, 2008, 08:31:24 PM
I already followed the instructions, so far so good, the RH level is usually at 40+

Normally, depende sa room temperature ang relative humidity mo ay maglalaro from 40 to 60 %.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: doggydogg on September 12, 2008, 04:25:39 AM
mga sir, pano pag bumagsak ng 30-20% below rh,
ok lang ba to? how do i keep the rh within the 50-40% range?
thanks!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: cryotech on September 12, 2008, 04:45:21 AM
@doggydogg
Yung sa DryCab ko po kasi, yung instructions nya is to set it sa M lang (may L, M at H kasi na knob yung dehumidifier) then I left it lang for 24 hrs, napansin ko na bumababa sa 35% to 30% yung RH reading ng Hygrometer, what I did was to set it at H, after 48 hrs, stable na ang reading nya sa 45 to 50% rh (depende pa din po sa weather, medyo malamig ngayun since umuulan)

Yung sa inyo e bala kailangan lagyan nyo pa ng Silica gels (naka DIY po ba kayo or yung nabibili na Drybox or Drycab?)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kemikopulens on September 12, 2008, 07:47:26 AM
mga sir, pano pag bumagsak ng 30-20% below rh,
ok lang ba to? how do i keep the rh within the 50-40% range?
thanks!

Kung room temp tayp bihira bumagsak sa 30 - 30% rh. kung gustp mo mamaintain na 40 - 50% kailangan mo bantayan lang ng mabuti kung ok pa yung silica gel mo or not. meaning kung kailangan mo na sya iregenerate (painitin or paaarawan)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: doggydogg on September 12, 2008, 01:45:14 PM
@kemikopulens

sir kanina pag gising ko 18%RH, naka M setting for 24 hours, which is too low talaga for me.

sir sa dry cabinet, i think electronic ata, walang silica gel.


Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: johnnyDrama on September 12, 2008, 02:00:13 PM
Just a simple question, ok kaya if i use a Dry box moisture absorber-dessicant and put it in an Airtight containter? Don't have the budget for those expensive dry boxes.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kemikopulens on September 13, 2008, 07:41:11 AM
@kemikopulens

sir kanina pag gising ko 18%RH, naka M setting for 24 hours, which is too low talaga for me.

sir sa dry cabinet, i think electronic ata, walang silica gel.

That means your drybox is working just fine. If you are obtaining 18% RH means less moisture less chances for fungal growth.


Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pirehro on September 16, 2008, 06:22:10 PM
ang mahal nman ng dry box wew  :o
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kemikopulens on September 16, 2008, 07:44:00 PM
Just a simple question, ok kaya if i use a Dry box moisture absorber-dessicant and put it in an Airtight containter? Don't have the budget for those expensive dry boxes.
Bro, if you have read the previous posts. pwede. I suggest used the lock and lock. Try mo yung mga 10L na capacity then bili ka ng silica gel. It cost me around 800 pesos.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jinjin on September 16, 2008, 08:10:30 PM
What would be more accurate a dry cabinet with a digital hygrometer or an analog hygrometer?  Planning to upgrade to a bigger one :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kemikopulens on September 16, 2008, 08:31:25 PM
What would be more accurate a dry cabinet with a digital hygrometer or an analog hygrometer?  Planning to upgrade to a bigger one :D
for me what is improtant ay dapat calibrated ang hygrometer mo. I think the digital hygrometer cost around 800 pesos. while the analog hygrometer is at 250 pesos at national
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jaygonzales on September 17, 2008, 06:30:38 PM
u'll never know the importance of dry boxes (though expensive) until your gears have been infected...

"Prevention is the Cure"
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: daney_waney on September 17, 2008, 07:21:59 PM
i have a question. i have a eureka drybox. the hygrometer that is built in shows a reading of 60 RH. but when i put my digital hygrometer in it (bought from infomaxx) the digital hygrometer shows 33 RH. which should i follow?? :) how do you calibrate the hygrometer?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kemikopulens on September 17, 2008, 07:43:14 PM
i have a question. i have a eureka drybox. the hygrometer that is built in shows a reading of 60 RH. but when i put my digital hygrometer in it (bought from infomaxx) the digital hygrometer shows 33 RH. which should i follow?? :) how do you calibrate the hygrometer?
What's the hygrometer in your eureka? digital or analog? Which is newer, the one in your eureka or the one from infomaxx? You will be needing a primary standard for the calibration of your hygrometer. If your hygrometer is more than one year old, I suggest to calibrate it for verification purposes.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jinjin on September 17, 2008, 08:08:58 PM
Just upgraded my drybox to an am-pro equator 10 with digital hygrometer.  Got it at a 20% discounted price of Php 15,984 in true value parksquare 1. ;D 
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: daney_waney on September 18, 2008, 10:28:38 PM
What's the hygrometer in your eureka? digital or analog? Which is newer, the one in your eureka or the one from infomaxx? You will be needing a primary standard for the calibration of your hygrometer. If your hygrometer is more than one year old, I suggest to calibrate it for verification purposes.
the one in the eureka is analogue the one from Infomaxx is digital the one from Infomaxx is older where can I have the analogue 1 that is built in my eureka drybox calibrated? I don't know which one I can rely on
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kemikopulens on September 19, 2008, 07:13:29 AM
I suggest to stick with the digital. At least its poratable right? Regarding calibration, try to ask infomaxx if they offer such services.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: daney_waney on September 19, 2008, 07:29:17 AM
okay, i will probably do that. i wonder if aperture can calibrate the hygrometer of my drybox. i bought it from them kasi. hehe and yes the digital one is the portable one.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: kemikopulens on September 19, 2008, 07:51:11 AM
okay, i will probably do that. i wonder if aperture can calibrate the hygrometer of my drybox. i bought it from them kasi. hehe and yes the digital one is the portable one.
OK. Relatively, its easy to rely on the digital instead on the analog. Most of the time there's a big difference in terms of measurement between the analog and digital hygrometer.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: daney_waney on September 19, 2008, 10:47:46 AM
OK. Relatively, its easy to rely on the digital instead on the analog. Most of the time there's a big difference in terms of measurement between the analog and digital hygrometer.

what do you mean by there is a big difference between the measurement of the 2? and yes there is so far as the analogue built in the drybox and the digital that i put inside. around 30 rh. when i set my drybox to high, the analogue reads 40 more or less while the digital goes 0 or error. :) but when its on medium, the digital reads 30 and the analogue reads around 60.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: yurax on September 20, 2008, 10:46:53 PM
Just bought my eureka dry box today  ;D

Question lang:

The front indicator light turns off right?

when i first opened it, nag-on siya, pero after a few minutes nawala na siya.

ganun talaga db? haha

Wala sa manual e. ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: arkitek on September 22, 2008, 11:55:47 AM
Based on your experiences, What would you recommend Eureka or Am Pro? Are there any other brands out there? thanks in advance for your inputs
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: yurax on September 22, 2008, 01:44:29 PM
Wonderful drybox from pipho also.  ;)

But from what i've read and heard, eureka over wonderful daw. Haha

That's why i got the Eureka brand.

But i JT, they have these Wondeful Dry Cabinets that are cheaper and "Digitalized" Haha

So I might sell my new Eureka for this (Not sure pa).  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: arkitek on September 23, 2008, 08:36:47 PM
Oh ok. Who is the distributor of the "wonderful" brand? Contact nos. Thanks
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: megatron on September 23, 2008, 08:49:11 PM
Oh ok. Who is the distributor of the "wonderful" brand? Contact nos. Thanks


here you go sir: http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=29730.0
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: novice on October 02, 2008, 10:40:52 AM
mga sir ask ko lang po saan ako pwede order online ng drybox. punta kasi ako sa isang place na -40C and i doubt kung uubra un DIY drybox. Salamat po.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: waizmen on October 02, 2008, 04:04:44 PM
hi! para po makatipid bumili ako ng lock n lock box sa sm. then nakabili ako ng i thought na hygrometer sa isang electrical store. huli ko nalaman  :o na thermometer ma la yun pero wireless. and digital. it only display 'C or 'F temperature. walang percentage. RH. ok na po ba yun? pwede na ba as alternative sa hygrometer?  mahal din kasi bili ko mga 950. hope you can help me guys.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: miguelguti on October 05, 2008, 01:39:30 PM
bili na kaya ako nito. nakatambak lang akin, baka masira sayang naman
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bigfoot on October 10, 2008, 05:38:35 PM
Just bought my eureka dry box today  ;D

Question lang:

The front indicator light turns off right?

when i first opened it, nag-on siya, pero after a few minutes nawala na siya.

ganun talaga db? haha

Wala sa manual e. ;D

Yes, its suppose to turn on and off.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: athlonfan2 on October 10, 2008, 08:56:38 PM
hi! para po makatipid bumili ako ng lock n lock box sa sm. then nakabili ako ng i thought na hygrometer sa isang electrical store. huli ko nalaman  :o na thermometer ma la yun pero wireless. and digital. it only display 'C or 'F temperature. walang percentage. RH. ok na po ba yun? pwede na ba as alternative sa hygrometer?  mahal din kasi bili ko mga 950. hope you can help me guys.


iba kasi po ung ang mine-measure ng thermometer sa hygrometer kaya po hindi pupuwede yun.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: puttekk on October 14, 2008, 12:52:41 AM
meron bang Digital Hygrometer sa Infomaxx Megamall?

by the way kung bibili ako sa Infomaxx ng digital hygrometer ano ba ang sasabihin ko sa kanila? Digital Hygrometer Lang or Clock with Digital Hygrometer? Ilang models o klase ba ang tinitinda nila?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ohmz2k1 on October 14, 2008, 01:02:03 AM
@puttekk bro, sa concorde car accessories center meron hygrometer @ 299.75 lang. NIKEN brand.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: puttekk on October 14, 2008, 02:08:14 AM
sensiya na boss SM Megamall lang ang alam ko sa Manila, probinsiyano kasi ako kaya SM lang ang mapupuntahan ko  :( . Yung camera gears ko ever since lahat shipped sa bahay. Si Wilson Lu ang palagi kong tinatawagan sa phone takot kasi ako  sa Quiapo.

Interesado ako dun sa nabibili sa infomax na digital hygro.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: yurax on October 14, 2008, 02:13:09 AM
sensiya na boss SM Megamall lang ang alam ko sa Manila, probinsiyano kasi ako kaya SM lang ang mapupuntahan ko  :( . Yung camera gears ko ever since lahat shipped sa bahay. Si Wilson Lu ang palagi kong tinatawagan sa phone takot kasi ako  sa Quiapo.

Interesado ako dun sa nabibili sa infomax na digital hygro.

Merong concorde car accessories sa megamall sir.  ;)

Anyway, if bibili po kayo sa infomaxx, just tell them digital hygrometer. Alam na nila yun.

My dad got the Eureka drybox there e. So basically, may knowledge sila sa ganiyan.

Saktong SM megamall infomaxx yung pinagbilhan niya, mas mahal ng mga 2k compared sa iba pero what the heck, it's my dad's money naman e haha  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: puttekk on October 14, 2008, 08:30:30 AM
Isang klase lang ba yung nabibili na Digital Hygrometer sa Infomaxx? baka kasi meron pang ibang type o model eh, alin dapat ang bibilhin ko kung sakali?.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ohmz2k1 on October 14, 2008, 08:46:01 AM
@puttekk bro try mo tawagan to. http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=29730.0
sulit na sulit pera mo dito. sakin model SD-108C. good luck.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ryancarlos on October 14, 2008, 09:37:57 AM
What's the best largest dry box you can buy for around 15-25T?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: puttekk on October 14, 2008, 02:31:38 PM
@puttekk bro try mo tawagan to. [url]http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=29730.0[/url]
sulit na sulit pera mo dito. sakin model SD-108C. good luck.


hygrometer na lang kasi kulang ko. may ginagawa kasi ako na dry box microcontroller controlled design bale may maliit na computer sa loob base sa design ng http://www.electronicslab.ph 
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bimmerkid on October 14, 2008, 11:02:47 PM
 ??? at what reading should we maintain the hygrometer? thanks in advance...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: macracing09 on October 15, 2008, 05:49:30 PM
i have a new hygrometer. How would I know if it is already calibrated? thanks.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: hman on October 17, 2008, 10:30:12 PM
??? at what reading should we maintain the hygrometer? thanks in advance...

70%-90% RH ( relative humidity).
drybox helps maintain a RH of 45-55% ( ideal for your DLSR and lenses ).

I use Lock and Lock 10Liters, Homelife dehumidifier and a digital hygrometer.  ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bimmerkid on October 18, 2008, 10:15:32 PM
 :) Thanks for the response Holman...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bluegene on October 24, 2008, 07:20:44 PM
I just bought a digital hygrometer from Infomax Megamall 850 Pesos yung E-Sun ETP101 Digital Thermohygrometer ganito yun.

(http://www.tlead.net/phmeter/es/ETP101.jpg)

(http://www.e-sun.cn/products/ETP101_d.jpg)

tapos bumili din ako sa DP Online ng rechargeable silica gel na large cost is 650 pesos.

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bluegene on October 24, 2008, 07:44:37 PM
If ever bumili ako ng dry cabinet should I buy the

Eureka RT-48 (5,500php analog hygro) from Aperture or the Wonderful AD-040i frp, DP Online  (6,500 digital hygro) ang size nila ay identical.

Anong ba ang mas reliable sa dalawa?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: mke711 on October 25, 2008, 12:10:31 AM
I just bought an wonderful Ad040 C.

question, the gauge inside indicate 35% but I have an extra hygrometer gauge it reads 50% why theirs a big difference ? what should I follow?

also I put my dry cabinet in my room, during night time usually the airson is on and I notice my temp drop to 20 degree the in the morning it goes back to 30 degrees, it is ok? or I shall move it to another  more consistent place?

what is the normal nos. for a dry cabinet?

hope to hear some answers, thanks
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: madman on October 26, 2008, 04:06:52 PM
I have a couple of *toink* questions:  is it alright to store my lens in the dry box while it is inside my lens case?  Or must I remove it from the lens case?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bluegene on October 26, 2008, 10:36:16 PM
I have a couple of *toink* questions:  is it alright to store my lens in the dry box while it is inside my lens case?  Or must I remove it from the lens case?

much better kung wala sa case para mas mabilis mahigop nung dry cabinet yung moisture na nandun sa loob ng lens mo..
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: waizmen on October 31, 2008, 01:27:59 PM
thank you athlonfan2. tnx for the info.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: brothermoe on November 01, 2008, 10:35:24 PM
Hello I just want to ask where I can get an electric dehumidifier (assuming those exist). I plan to combine the electric dehumidifier, a hygrometer, and an airtight plastic box to make my own  DIY drybox. I know I can use silica gel but I don't really want to rely on those to keep things dry. I'd appreciate any info. Thanks.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: IRIS on November 04, 2008, 06:58:41 AM
I just bought an wonderful Ad040 C.

question, the gauge inside indicate 35% but I have an extra hygrometer gauge it reads 50% why theirs a big difference ? what should I follow?

i have the same question. got a eureka drybox from aperture which reads 45%rH while my digital hygrometer from infomaxx reads 27%rH. which is more accurate? thanks in advance.

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: madman on November 04, 2008, 05:41:14 PM
I suggest that you calibrate both in the same container at the same time.  The one that reaches 75% or nearest to that is the more accurate one.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: madman on November 04, 2008, 05:45:46 PM
Addendum:  considering that one of the hygrometers is probably on the wall of the Wonderful Dry Box, that it's just a simple matter of putting the other hygrometer inside the dry box and calibrating.

@IRIS, mke,  please tell us the results of this experiment.  It would be interesting to know.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: madman on November 07, 2008, 06:07:41 PM
I have a DIY 21-L Lock and Lock dry box.  I use the cheapo 90-peso hygrometer which I bought from SM near Hidalgo.  I bought a box of that HomeLife silica gel (25 packets per box) from Ace.  I placed all 25 packets inside the dry box, and yet my hygrometer would read 60 per cent relative humidity.

At first, I thought that my hygrometer was not working properly.  However, it gave me consistent correct results upon repeated calibration.

Instead of buying another box of that HomeLife stuff (I thought that it was going to be messy to have a truckload of silica gel packets inside the dry box), I purchased the Wonderful Moisture Absorber/Dessicant for 650 bucks, and used it instead of the silica gel packets.

Low and behold, my relative humidity reading the next day was 42 per cent!  That Wonderful gadget works like a charm.  I'd recommend it or any similar item instead of the silica gel packets.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: IRIS on November 08, 2008, 12:15:30 AM
Addendum:  considering that one of the hygrometers is probably on the wall of the Wonderful Dry Box, that it's just a simple matter of putting the other hygrometer inside the dry box and calibrating.

@IRIS, mke,  please tell us the results of this experiment.  It would be interesting to know.


@madman
i followed your advice. i placed my digital hygrometer inside my unplugged drybox. after 3 days, the ff are the readings:
       eureka drybox 55%RH
       digital hygrometer  30%RH

i tried to reset my digital hygrometer several times but the readings are somewhat consistent. im not sure how to calibrate my eureka. any idea why there is a big difference in reading? thanks
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: madman on November 08, 2008, 07:11:17 AM
@IRIS: Just Google "hygrometer calibration."  I'm sure you'll find a workaround for calibrating your dry box hygrometer.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: angelobalajadia on November 10, 2008, 08:16:48 PM
i have a question, is it ok if sa gabi malamig sa room... around 18C or lower yung aircon then sa morning naman room temp lang kasi patay na yung aircon.. yung lock and lock ba papasukin ng lamig? thanks in advance...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: dockiks on November 10, 2008, 11:38:33 PM
I don't know how one would go about calibrating the hygrometers (analog or digital) inside the big dry cabinets (Eureka or Wonderful). But if somebody also has another hygrometer (like IRIS), you could calibrate this small detachable/portable hygrometer using the "salt slurry inside an airtight jar or zip-lock" method. Adjust it accordingly to the 75% reading. Or if you can't, then just remember the total deviation (+ or -) from 75%. Then place it inside your big dry cabinet and compare its reading with the one inside. Then you can tell if the other is also accurate. Adjust as needed. Hope this helps.

Just to share my calibration experience: I detached the analog hygrometer from my dry box (similar to Wonderful Drybox DB-3828) and after 8 hours inside zip-lock with salt-slurry, it read 78%. Not a bad deviation, but I adjusted it accordingly using a small flat-head screwdriver. No idea how to adjust a digital one though...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bluegene on November 11, 2008, 10:17:20 PM
I have a DIY 21-L Lock and Lock dry box.  I use the cheapo 90-peso hygrometer which I bought from SM near Hidalgo.  I bought a box of that HomeLife silica gel (25 packets per box) from Ace.  I placed all 25 packets inside the dry box, and yet my hygrometer would read 60 per cent relative humidity.

At first, I thought that my hygrometer was not working properly.  However, it gave me consistent correct results upon repeated calibration.

Instead of buying another box of that HomeLife stuff (I thought that it was going to be messy to have a truckload of silica gel packets inside the dry box), I purchased the Wonderful Moisture Absorber/Dessicant for 650 bucks, and used it instead of the silica gel packets.

Low and behold, my relative humidity reading the next day was 42 per cent!  That Wonderful gadget works like a charm.  I'd recommend it or any similar item instead of the silica gel packets.

yep malakas nga humigop ng tubig yung Large na Wonderful Rechargeable silica gel. I bought mine at DP Online. I am very satisfied with it. may mga oras nga na 30-35% na lang ang humidity sa dry box ko.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: bluegene on November 11, 2008, 10:19:37 PM
Yung digital hygro from infomax as well as most digital hygros cannot be adjusted.

Yung ETP101 digital hygro from infomax ay mababa ng 5% RH ang reading compared to actual reading. ( Based on salt calibration at 75% RH ).
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: squiggly on November 11, 2008, 10:20:34 PM
i have a question, is it ok if sa gabi malamig sa room... around 18C or lower yung aircon then sa morning naman room temp lang kasi patay na yung aircon.. yung lock and lock ba papasukin ng lamig? thanks in advance...

hi Gelo,

Lalamig gamit mo sa lock and lock. But then since its air tight and the change in temp is not instant then your gear wont be affected. condensation wont affect your lenses and body.

just like when your in an aircon room in the daytime then go out lets say on the beach which is scorching hot. to prevent condensation put your lenses in an airtight bag, like a sandwich or freezer bag and let your gear heat up naturally before opening the bag. try it your lenses wont fog up!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: angelobalajadia on November 11, 2008, 11:07:34 PM
thank you sir squiggly.  :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: dwn4u on November 12, 2008, 11:56:24 AM
just got my wonderful ad-050i drybox from jt yesterday,  ;D tested it for 8 hrs, problem is last night di siya stable. i put the lever to "M" tapos reading niya is 35-45rh% so i think okay naman, pero when i woke up nakita nasa mga 18%rh nalang siya, with reading na 20c temp, pero now stable siya to 50-55%rh, okay na kaya siya?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: reloaded on November 12, 2008, 12:07:42 PM
just got my wonderful ad-050i drybox from jt yesterday,  ;D tested it for 8 hrs, problem is last night di siya stable. i put the lever to "M" tapos reading niya is 35-45rh% so i think okay naman, pero when i woke up nakita nasa mga 18%rh nalang siya, with reading na 20c temp, pero now stable siya to 50-55%rh, okay na kaya siya?
Im no expert in terms of dry boxes but I think sir your drybox is working as it should. Since you set it to "M" or medium relative humidity its really suppose to be close to your ambient humidity. since the early morning humidity is not that high to begin with, coupled with a cold temperature of 20c it produces a dry environment that is why you got only 18%rh.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Robroy on November 16, 2008, 08:52:20 AM
Need help guys, i'm confuse with my DIY drybox.  Bought Hygrometer at infomax and a 9L Lock&Lock box.  As what i understand reading this thread that when room temp is cold, the RH reading tends to go up and you have to put some silica gels to make it go down.  In my case, when my room's aircon is turned on and i open the box's lid, the RH reading goes down, and when i put some silica gel in, it reading goes up ... hhmmm .. why is that so? is my hygrometer busted?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jays on November 16, 2008, 08:57:17 AM
hi, just wanted to ask if anyone has bought a drybox in singapore and was able to bring it to manila? is there any problem bringing it through customs? planning to buy a 30L drybox since its only SGD 118 (PHP 3,800). thx
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: macopajuice on November 16, 2008, 11:39:44 AM
@madman- can you tell me where you bought a Php90 hygrometer and the Wonderful moisture absorber? Appreciate some pics so I know what to look for. Thanks!!

I have a DIY 21-L Lock and Lock dry box.  I use the cheapo 90-peso hygrometer which I bought from SM near Hidalgo.  I bought a box of that HomeLife silica gel (25 packets per box) from Ace.  I placed all 25 packets inside the dry box, and yet my hygrometer would read 60 per cent relative humidity.

At first, I thought that my hygrometer was not working properly.  However, it gave me consistent correct results upon repeated calibration.

Instead of buying another box of that HomeLife stuff (I thought that it was going to be messy to have a truckload of silica gel packets inside the dry box), I purchased the Wonderful Moisture Absorber/Dessicant for 650 bucks, and used it instead of the silica gel packets.

Low and behold, my relative humidity reading the next day was 42 per cent!  That Wonderful gadget works like a charm.  I'd recommend it or any similar item instead of the silica gel packets.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: dockiks on November 16, 2008, 11:20:39 PM
@macopajuice: The Wonderful moisture absorber is available separately at DP Online http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=29730.0;all (http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=29730.0;all)  but it is already included when you buy a Wonderful Dry Box from them, or a Pro Dry Box from Hidalgo (same thing, diff. label lang) stores

Re hygrometer, someone previously posted having bought a thermometer/hygrometer combo from Blade Car Accessory shop. I saw a cheap one at national bookstore, just don't know how accurate it would be
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: macopajuice on November 18, 2008, 06:17:34 PM
@dockiks:  Thank you for the info.  I was finally able to find a digital thermometer/hygrometer from True Value ATC at Php750.00.  I would have preferred the Php90.00 hygrometer but it's so hard to find at SM.  The hygrometer registered 44%rh since last night, so I think my Homelife silica gels are working.  ;D  I'll check it again when I get home. 





@macopajuice: The Wonderful moisture absorber is available separately at DP Online [url]http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=29730.0;all[/url] ([url]http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=29730.0;all[/url])&nbsp; but it is already included when you buy a Wonderful Dry Box from them, or a Pro Dry Box from Hidalgo (same thing, diff. label lang) stores

Re hygrometer, someone previously posted having bought a thermometer/hygrometer combo from Blade Car Accessory shop. I saw a cheap one at national bookstore, just don't know how accurate it would be
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: dockiks on November 18, 2008, 10:30:47 PM
@macopajuice: I saw the display of dry boxes and cabinets (nice but high-priced) at True value ATC but I didn't see a separate hygrometer being sold. But it's too expensive for me anyway, considering that my dry box already has an analog one. I was just thinking about getting another one to check my hygrometer against but since I've already calibrated it at 75% RH (salt slurry method), its already unnecessary.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: madman on November 19, 2008, 09:38:00 AM
@dockiks:  Thank you for the info.  I was finally able to find a digital thermometer/hygrometer from True Value ATC at Php750.00.

@macopajuice, in what part of True Value did you find the hygrometer?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: wwonka on November 19, 2008, 10:53:36 AM
for those u like to know how to calibrate their drybox

http://exoticpets.about.com/od/herpresources/ss/hygrometer_8.htm (http://exoticpets.about.com/od/herpresources/ss/hygrometer_8.htm)

not sure u can do this with a digital hygrometer....
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: dockiks on November 20, 2008, 12:32:38 AM
The method is the same whether your hygrometer is analog or digital, so yes this method can also be used for digital The question is if your digital hygrometer can be adjusted after determination of deviation?

BTW, to use this calibration method, one has to detach the analog hygrometer from the dry box simply by unscrewing the plastic "nut" on the inner side. Then place it in a zip-lock bag, or an air-tight jar. Don't know if you can place the salt-slurry inside the dry box itself...you might need to use a whole cup of salt!  :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Eidekos on November 21, 2008, 10:12:39 AM
i saw this vanguard 27F from defnition electronics, can this be a dry box also? it's double purpose case if it can.. do you have any ideas?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Kwaho21 on November 25, 2008, 09:31:41 AM
Need help guys, i'm confuse with my DIY drybox.  Bought Hygrometer at infomax and a 9L Lock&Lock box.  As what i understand reading this thread that when room temp is cold, the RH reading tends to go up and you have to put some silica gels to make it go down.  In my case, when my room's aircon is turned on and i open the box's lid, the RH reading goes down, and when i put some silica gel in, it reading goes up ... hhmmm .. why is that so? is my hygrometer busted?

I just read ur concern and in my opinion i thinks it is normal that the rh reading in your room goes down its because the room is too big than your box and it takes time to read the entire room plus aircon makes your room dry (notice the water that coming out from the back of aircon it also remove excess moist) since you have items in your dry box ex. camera and you put silica gel, normally the reading of the hygrometer will be higher because it also read the moisture content of the entire dry box(9lt) with camera or accessories. and it will take time for the silica gel to get/absorb the humid inside the box. Hope this will help.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Endz on November 27, 2008, 10:34:58 AM
hi, i'm new here in pipho, um, actually 2 weeks nko nag brobrowse pero ngayun lng ako nagregister >,< anyway, i am deciding to make a Lock N Lock DiY drybox since nabasa ko itong tread @_@ gs2 ko sana basahin bawat page pero ang dami >,< help naman po, i need info about how the Original DryBox work and materials need for a DiY drybox.

so far ito na na kuha kong info needed for a DiY drybox:
1. Lock n Lock
2. Hygrometer
3. Silica Gels

san po ba yung  True Value na store at yung iba pang store na namention na nag bebenta ng hygrometer ksi pansin ko parang walang may alam kng anu ang hygrometer sa national bookstore @_@ silica gels so far try ko maghanap sa hardware store, sana may hygrometer din dun >,<

questions:
1.  anu po dapat gawin after m na mabili? measure m ba muna humidity sa loob ng box? what if yung box ay ilalagay sa loob ng cabinet tps yung aircon namin only opens at night to morning pag gising? panu ko po ma measure yung humidity para safe?

2. pag bumili ba ng drybox sa true value or sa aperture, lalagay m lng yung gamit m sa loob at wala ka nang aabalahin? bka ksi pag sobrang dami dapat abalahin bka diretso nko sa drybox na orig para sigurado @_@

sensya po sa sobra dami kong tanung at tamad mag search ksi po busy eh TwT sana po may magreply :) thanks in advance ^_^
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: squiggly on November 27, 2008, 04:19:58 PM
Hi endz,

For your DIY dry box. what you listed down is all you need. make sure your hygrometer reading is in between 35 and 65 and your ok.  if the reading goes down then open the lock and lock to let bring up the humidity. and when it stays too high put in newer silica gels.  Those electric drycabs are simpler. plug it in and your good to go.

HTH...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: photosyut on November 28, 2008, 10:06:16 PM
tanong ko lang po mga sir yung silica gel po ba tatangalin sa plastic nya kc diba yung mga bits nun nakalagay sa plastic tatangalin po ba yun dun or hayaan lang na nakabalot? saka san nabibili yung digital hygrometer?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: macopajuice on December 01, 2008, 05:38:10 PM

@madman - - True Value Alabang Town Center - you can find it in the aisle beside the car accessories.  It's party hidden by other stuff but last night there were about 2 or 3 units left.  One thing though, by buying this digital hygrometer, my total cost has reached a little over P2K. You may want to consider the costs of a DIY drybox over simply buying built one.


@macopajuice, in what part of True Value did you find the hygrometer?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: misterp on December 03, 2008, 10:16:40 AM
wala ako dry box(konte pa yun gears ko).. ok ra ba yun bag + dessicants?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: dockiks on December 03, 2008, 10:57:27 PM
Since the bag is not airtight, the dessicants will not be very effective in bringing down the RH to the desired level (30-50). But I guess it's better than nothing. OTOH, you could use the biggest zip-lock bags and store your gear individually, with their own dessicant/silica gel packs. But I suggest you at least get a Lock and Lock box if you don't want to invest in a dry box. There are smaller (cheaper) ones than the P1,200 biggest size.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: yurax on December 05, 2008, 10:48:57 AM
there is a cheap drybox in JT for about 2200 all in. no hassle whatsoever in buying all necessary stuff in making a DIY drybox. www.dponline.com.ph (http://www.dponline.com.ph)

Just bought the wonderful drybox there.  ;) bigger than my old eureka one. yey!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: dockiks on December 06, 2008, 12:28:57 AM
2nd the motion on getting a retail version versus a DIY one. Just consider it as a long-term investment. You won't have to completely take off the cover (and let the internal humidity equilibrate with the outside) everytime you need to get something from the dry box. Also, it might be a pain drying out those dessicants/silica gel packs  in the microwave. With the electric dessicant pack, you just plug it in the elec. outlet for a couple of hours, and your RH goes back down to 30/35%. And the dry box is transparent too, unlike the Lock & Lock containers. So you can stare at your precious gear all day, if that's your kind of thing  ;D

I got the 28 L equivalent of JT's Wonderful at Avenue for 2500 last October
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: photobong on December 08, 2008, 11:57:33 AM

I was looking at my set of gears last night. I was thinking how easy it is for a robber to snatch the set. I wanted to check at safe boxes in True Value. But then, it would be better for that safe box to be the dry box also. What would you recommend guys?

TIA
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: briboinks on December 08, 2008, 09:27:01 PM
Question guys, how can you obtain a 40-50% humidity during winter season? 'coz nowadays i keep getting 25-35% range on my drybox :-X
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Endz on December 09, 2008, 01:40:32 PM
I was looking at my set of gears last night. I was thinking how easy it is for a robber to snatch the set. I wanted to check at safe boxes in True Value. But then, it would be better for that safe box to be the dry box also. What would you recommend guys?

TIA


http://www.dponline.com.ph/store/search.php5?b=Wonderful&c=Drybox/Cabinet&menuheader%20expandable=9 (http://www.dponline.com.ph/store/search.php5?b=Wonderful&c=Drybox/Cabinet&menuheader%20expandable=9)

lockable na po mya dry box na yan, at de saksak lng daw ^_^ para di m na atupagin yung mga humidity silicagel etc >,< sakit sa ulo yun >,< it cost much but think of long term ^_^
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: lehboy on December 09, 2008, 01:46:53 PM
I was looking at my set of gears last night. I was thinking how easy it is for a robber to snatch the set. I wanted to check at safe boxes in True Value. But then, it would be better for that safe box to be the dry box also. What would you recommend guys?

TIA

Bong may lock naman yung mga Dry cabinets. Siyempre simple lock lang yun hehe :) Iba pa rin pag vault talaga.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: quixilver on December 09, 2008, 02:00:31 PM
Question guys, how can you obtain a 40-50% humidity during winter season? 'coz nowadays i keep getting 25-35% range on my drybox :-X

whoa! set it near high
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: yurax on December 09, 2008, 02:05:39 PM
Question guys, how can you obtain a 40-50% humidity during winter season? 'coz nowadays i keep getting 25-35% range on my drybox :-X

Okay lang i believe nag 35% right?

What i do i open the Cabinet nalang for 5 seconds and close haha
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: megatron on December 09, 2008, 02:28:10 PM
Question guys, how can you obtain a 40-50% humidity during winter season? 'coz nowadays i keep getting 25-35% range on my drybox :-X

i don't think there's a way to increase the humidity inside the drybox if the humidity in the room is lower than the level you want
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: briboinks on December 09, 2008, 09:44:56 PM
i think aircon is the only way
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: misterp on December 11, 2008, 12:03:10 PM
Since the bag is not airtight, the dessicants will not be very effective in bringing down the RH to the desired level (30-50). But I guess it's better than nothing. OTOH, you could use the biggest zip-lock bags and store your gear individually, with their own dessicant/silica gel packs. But I suggest you at least get a Lock and Lock box if you don't want to invest in a dry box. There are smaller (cheaper) ones than the P1,200 biggest size.

ok ra ba yun tamrac na bag? express 8 and system 3 po yun bag ko
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: dockiks on December 11, 2008, 12:48:41 PM
@misterp:
Parang non-related yung question mo dun sa quoted post mo, esp. since the thread is about dry boxes. Unless you are asking if Tamrac bags are airtight and can be used with some silica gel packs in lieu of a dry box. In which case the answer is no. No camera bags are airtight, and none can provide the benefit that a dry box can offer.

Unless you get something like this  http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=39338.0 (http://www.pinoyphotography.org/forum/index.php?topic=39338.0)
 ;D

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: misterp on December 11, 2008, 03:28:11 PM
@dockiks: thanks now i know.. pero at least may protection nalng diba? :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: chuck on December 16, 2008, 12:24:23 AM
Sure you can say that you would be better off if you just bought a ready made (saves you the hassle of sourcing out the parts) but Just compare the material ng ready made drybox na nasa range ng 1-2k vs. a lock n lock diy box. Try dropping both at a substantial height to see which breaks first. Ang brittle usually ng plastic ng mga cheapo boxes. Of course, hindi mo din masasabi kung kelan ang aksidente diba? I still love those lock N lock boxes yung may handles:) Lifetime warranty pa - with conviction yung sales lady sa SM;)

Anyway, I have both - diy and yung ready made. Sobrang hirap lang talaga maghanap ng magandang hygro

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: hob on December 17, 2008, 02:38:39 PM
Lock and lock is made with good quality plastic. I bought a 10L comes with a handle for only 900php at Handyman.  :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: mak_datu_2007 on December 17, 2008, 02:53:25 PM
naku NEVER NEVER buy the dehumidifier for your drybox!.. the one sold at your handyman shop, ace, waltermart, etc., the one one with pink cap. it liquifies at a certain moisture absorption. i read also here in this forum that its calcium (?) content is bad for your camera and lenses.. instead of disposing the canister, i placed it in one of our clothes cabinet/sheets drawer. after i got my D90 last week, found out a week ago, there were no more pebble like gel inside the canister but a syrup like substance. and some of the goo even leaked through the sheets! better and safer to use SILICA GEL.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nmeuvdast8 on December 21, 2008, 01:45:51 PM
I made a DIY box using the following...

21L Lock & Lock
Silica Gels
Digital Hygrometer (bought in Infomax)

at first, everything was ok, the RH fell in the range of between 45-50%. After a few more days, it dropped to around 40-42%. A within a week, it now reads 29-30%. I've already opened the box and removed all silica gels, but the RH reading never went up to 40%. What should I do? tia!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Beowulf on December 22, 2008, 08:16:37 AM
I made a DIY box using the following...

21L Lock & Lock
Silica Gels
Digital Hygrometer (bought in Infomax)

at first, everything was ok, the RH fell in the range of between 45-50%. After a few more days, it dropped to around 40-42%. A within a week, it now reads 29-30%. I've already opened the box and removed all silica gels, but the RH reading never went up to 40%. What should I do? tia!

bakit po kailangan umakyat sa mas mataas sa 40%?  baka nasira na yung hygrometer?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Furry on December 22, 2008, 11:28:17 PM
Guys, i've been storing my dslr with lens attached inside my camera bag with silica gel packets for half a year now. So far so good and now i'm thinking of getting the Lock and Lock 20L multipurpose storage container (php 1,200) since i've added some lens and plan to put there other electronic stuff (psp, ipod). Also, trying to follow the best practices here in this forum :)

Question, will the Lock and Lock container be adequate enough? I don't have plans of putting silica gels or hygrometer kasi eh based on my previous ways of just making sure i take out the cam once a week. If it's an airtight container, will it be harmful to my equipment in that condition without the monitoring of humidity and silica gels?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: i_am_bishop on December 23, 2008, 07:30:49 PM
thanks for the important info... beginner here. it's only now that ive learned to take care of my lenses.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nmeuvdast8 on December 23, 2008, 08:23:10 PM
bakit po kailangan umakyat sa mas mataas sa 40%?  baka nasira na yung hygrometer?
from what i've read here (and other sites) the ideal RH should be 40%-60%. below 40% you're at risk of damaging the lens - i.e. drying the lubricants in the lens, above 60% - fungus might start to develop as this is their ideal RH. as for the hygrometer, wag naman sana, kakabili ko lang e. i think i need to recalibrate it, pero i dont know how.   :(
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: tackypinili on December 25, 2008, 11:22:48 AM
Question: Newbie lang..

Is it okay if i'll buy a big dry box, either DIY or ready made then ill put inside the camera bag with all the camera gadgets inside the bag?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pubert on December 25, 2008, 11:30:25 AM
Question: Newbie lang..

Is it okay if i'll buy a big dry box, either DIY or ready made then ill put inside the camera bag with all the camera gadgets inside the bag?

i guess its ok. BUT... the bag also has moisture in it so that loads up you dessicator unit (for a dry cabinet) or silica gels (DIY)... which will take up more time to absorb to reach the ideal humidity level and it will require more frequent recharging of the silica gels if you have a DIY setup.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: tackypinili on December 25, 2008, 02:42:45 PM
Alright. thanks for the kind reply!

Another question. (nawili)

Is it okay if i open the dry box frequently? like once per day?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: yurax on December 25, 2008, 08:58:59 PM
Alright. thanks for the kind reply!

Another question. (nawili)

Is it okay if i open the dry box frequently? like once per day?

Kahit ilang beses pa. I mean that's what the dry box do e. Parang try to stabilize air inside.

The good thing lang about dry boxes is that it's worry-free. So ayun.

I tried DIY Dry boxes pero still uncertain plus the cost of a DIY DB is almost the same as the cheapest one less hassle pa  ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: akane on January 01, 2009, 03:01:02 AM
I made a DIY box using the following...

21L Lock & Lock
Silica Gels
Digital Hygrometer (bought in Infomax)

at first, everything was ok, the RH fell in the range of between 45-50%. After a few more days, it dropped to around 40-42%. A within a week, it now reads 29-30%. I've already opened the box and removed all silica gels, but the RH reading never went up to 40%. What should I do? tia!

hi, Make sure you check the reading of your hygrometer. two of our "infomax digital hygrometer" were max out  at around 59-61 and 63 to 65 using the salt solution thingamajig. So we have to add around 10-15 from the usual reading.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: photobong on January 04, 2009, 02:39:08 PM
Bong may lock naman yung mga Dry cabinets. Siyempre simple lock lang yun hehe :) Iba pa rin pag vault talaga.

Lehboy, this is regarding my query on safe boxes that also act as a dry box. I mentioned about my foremost intention to keep my gear set safe from being stolen. Secondary lang yung drying component of the box kasi madalas ko naman sila gamitin. Problema ko kasi pati isang laptop sa office ko nawala lately. Hahaha.

Anyway, the other day i bought a wonderful dry cabinet. Looking at it right now, IMO the setup is far from being safe.
One, the lock is very easy to break into.
Two, the glass or plastic at the front is also easy to break.
Three, the material from which the cabinet is made of is not tough enough. I'm almost certain that even a kitchen knife can pierce through it.
Four, it is not heavy enough to discourage robbers to just bring the entire cabinet.

Bottomline, the dry cabinet is designed and made to be just that....a dry cabinet. Hehehe. Right now, I put a not so big sentry safe on top of the cabinet to give an impression that the whole thing is heavy. :) I'm also thinking of putting a chain, bolting it on the floor/wall, etc.

My question: have you guys encountered or heard of a SAFE DRY BOX? Hahaha! I dont mind if it doesnt look cute (ie. no window, etc). Basta SAFE. :)

TIA

Cheers!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: justphotographit on January 04, 2009, 02:58:51 PM
Lehboy, this is regarding my query on safe boxes that also act as a dry box. I mentioned about my foremost intention to keep my gear set safe from being stolen. Secondary lang yung drying component of the box kasi madalas ko naman sila gamitin. Problema ko kasi pati isang laptop sa office ko nawala lately. Hahaha.

Anyway, the other day i bought a wonderful dry cabinet. Looking at it right now, IMO the setup is far from being safe.
One, the lock is very easy to break into.
Two, the glass or plastic at the front is also easy to break.
Three, the material from which the cabinet is made of is not tough enough. I'm almost certain that even a kitchen knife can pierce through it.
Four, it is not heavy enough to discourage robbers to just bring the entire cabinet.

Bottomline, the dry cabinet is designed and made to be just that....a dry cabinet. Hehehe. Right now, I put a not so big sentry safe on top of the cabinet to give an impression that the whole thing is heavy. :) I'm also thinking of putting a chain, bolting it on the floor/wall, etc.

My question: have you guys encountered or heard of a SAFE DRY BOX? Hahaha! I dont mind if it doesnt look cute (ie. no window, etc). Basta SAFE. :)

TIA

Cheers!


Wonderful actually makes Safety Cabinets.  Check out this link --> Legend Wonderful (http://www.drycabinet.com.au/main.html). But, I'm not sure if JT or any other camera shop sells or keeps them in stock.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: photobong on January 04, 2009, 04:48:23 PM
Wonderful actually makes Safety Cabinets.&nbsp; Check out this link --> Legend Wonderful ([url]http://www.drycabinet.com.au/main.html[/url]). But, I'm not sure if JT or any other camera shop sells or keeps them in stock.


Thanks for the link.

cheers!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: coda29 on January 04, 2009, 06:11:08 PM
hi, I saw a cheap dry box which also contains a dehumidifier, its brand is yangyang. But I'm kinda hesitant in buying this since I haven't heard any good reviews regarding the yangyang dry box. Can this be a good alternative for the other drybox out there? Or is it much better to just do a DIY drybox (lock & lock). Any inputs would be appreciated. Thanks.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: chuck on January 07, 2009, 06:26:28 AM
@coda29,

I'm not sure if that brand is the same stock I saw in kameraworld in Alimall. It already includes a dehumidifier and a built-in analog hygrometer. The material of the plastic though is sort of "candy-like". Hindi naman yung tipong pitik lang at basag na :)

I guess anybrand would be ok as long as it can keep the moisture out and can give a satisfactory reading. For an analog meter, it would be advisable to check the sensitivity of the needle first to see if the meter is functioning properly (that's why I prefer digital). Of course, we can't be sure if it is 100% accurate. Not unless you have one of those industrial made ones that you can compare it to.

Last I check, they only have 2 or 3 left. It's about less than 10L but I think the space is sufficient enough to store a few mid-range lenses plus your cam. Anyway, I'd still put my Money on a lifetime warranty lock and lock box :) Portable l'il fella too with that cute handle :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: chuck on January 07, 2009, 07:34:42 AM
this could be useful :) Not sure if it was previously posted though...

how to calibrate your analog hygrometer

http://www.humidorvaultblog.com/cigars/hygrometers (http://www.humidorvaultblog.com/cigars/hygrometers)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: coda29 on January 07, 2009, 09:11:26 PM
@coda29,

I'm not sure if that brand is the same stock I saw in kameraworld in Alimall. It already includes a dehumidifier and a built-in analog hygrometer. The material of the plastic though is sort of "candy-like". Hindi naman yung tipong pitik lang at basag na :)

I guess anybrand would be ok as long as it can keep the moisture out and can give a satisfactory reading. For an analog meter, it would be advisable to check the sensitivity of the needle first to see if the meter is functioning properly (that's why I prefer digital). Of course, we can't be sure if it is 100% accurate. Not unless you have one of those industrial made ones that you can compare it to.

Last I check, they only have 2 or 3 left. It's about less than 10L but I think the space is sufficient enough to store a few mid-range lenses plus your cam. Anyway, I'd still put my Money on a lifetime warranty lock and lock box :) Portable l'il fella too with that cute handle :)


I saw this one in Kameraworld in Shangrila and yes the material looks brittle and could easily break if you drop it. That's why I got second thoughts in buying that drybox eventhough it's cheap. How about the Wonderful drybox sold in Taihua?  http://www.tayhua.com/drybox.html (http://www.tayhua.com/drybox.html) I'm wondering why this product is cheap and it also comes with a dehumidifier. Has anyone bought a drybox from them? One more thing, about the lock n lock, can you see the hygrometer from the outside? I think the box is not clear right?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: chuck on January 08, 2009, 03:46:08 AM
^ Yes you can sir:) Especially with an Analog Hygro.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: mazdamazda on January 08, 2009, 06:28:54 PM
this could be useful :) Not sure if it was previously posted though...

how to calibrate your analog hygrometer

[url]http://www.humidorvaultblog.com/cigars/hygrometers[/url] ([url]http://www.humidorvaultblog.com/cigars/hygrometers[/url])


Hmmm... that's interesting.

Was wondering over the holidays if my hygrometer was off since it was reading unusually low after I just charged by moisture absorber.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: a.10.4 on January 08, 2009, 10:43:24 PM
hi, I saw a cheap dry box which also contains a dehumidifier, its brand is yangyang. But I'm kinda hesitant in buying this since I haven't heard any good reviews regarding the yangyang dry box. Can this be a good alternative for the other drybox out there? Or is it much better to just do a DIY drybox (lock & lock). Any inputs would be appreciated. Thanks.

Kabibili ko lang nung akin kanina, priced at P999, sa Kameraworld Southmall, YangGuang ang brand.  Ito ata yun.  Have to check it out first, but my first impression is that mukhang ok naman for its price.  Kailangan ko lang naman is a quick-fix for my storage problems na hindi DIY.  ;D ;D ;D  Kaya lang, kailangan ko ng Chinese translator kasi almost all Chinese ang nakasulat sa box, except for the product name.    ???

I'll try to provide feedback on this product soon!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: a.10.4 on January 09, 2009, 08:20:57 AM
Kabibili ko lang nung akin kanina, priced at P999, sa Kameraworld Southmall, YangGuang ang brand.  Ito ata yun.  Have to check it out first, but my first impression is that mukhang ok naman for its price.  Kailangan ko lang naman is a quick-fix for my storage problems na hindi DIY.  ;D ;D ;D  Kaya lang, kailangan ko ng Chinese translator kasi almost all Chinese ang nakasulat sa box, except for the product name.    ???

I'll try to provide feedback on this product soon!

Update:  I plugged in the electronic dehumidifier for about 1.5 hours.  After pulling the plug, napansin ko na may tubig galing dun sa mismong dehumidifier!  Di ko alam kung dahil kasi uminit siya at nag-condense ang tubig kasi malamig ang panahon ngayon, pero kakaibang dami ng tubig ang lumabas.  Will have to test it first inside the box without my equipment just to be sure... 

Yung mga meron na nitong Yang Guang Dry Box na nabibili sa Kameraworld, pa-share naman po kung ganito din ang nangyari sa electronic dehumidifier niyo...  :(
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nelsito on January 09, 2009, 05:47:08 PM
Gud pm gurus,

Question on storing equipment in dryboxes:

Aside from the camera body and lenses, should you also put your other equipment inside the drybox (grip, external flash, remote) or can you just keep them outside the drybox storage?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: mazdamazda on January 09, 2009, 06:46:42 PM
Gud pm gurus,

Question on storing equipment in dryboxes:

Aside from the camera body and lenses, should you also put your other equipment inside the drybox (grip, external flash, remote) or can you just keep them outside the drybox storage?

Thanks in advance!

Putting them inside the drybox isn't necessary anymore.  Unless you have a dry cabinet and can accommodate everything in there.

Aside from the camera & lens, am storing also there some important CDs.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: coda29 on January 11, 2009, 10:17:46 AM
Update:  I plugged in the electronic dehumidifier for about 1.5 hours.  After pulling the plug, napansin ko na may tubig galing dun sa mismong dehumidifier!  Di ko alam kung dahil kasi uminit siya at nag-condense ang tubig kasi malamig ang panahon ngayon, pero kakaibang dami ng tubig ang lumabas.  Will have to test it first inside the box without my equipment just to be sure... 

Yung mga meron na nitong Yang Guang Dry Box na nabibili sa Kameraworld, pa-share naman po kung ganito din ang nangyari sa electronic dehumidifier niyo...  :(

hi! any updates on your yangyang drybox? does the hygrometer works?

question:

regarding the home life silica gel bought from true value, do i need to remove them from their plastic when i use them in my diy box? tnx:)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jet on January 11, 2009, 10:49:09 AM
hi! any updates on your yangyang drybox? does the hygrometer works?

question:

regarding the home life silica gel bought from true value, do i need to remove them from their plastic when i use them in my diy box? tnx:)

The YangGuang dry box works well and its hygrometer. But, I have to replace the free moisture absorber coz' it's quite bulky and defective (when plugged doesnt generate heat anymore), almost the size of a nikon kitlens hehe. Just to save space, ive just bought the wonderful moisture absorber from jt and placed in the box standing vertically on the side and it's more efficient.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: tackypinili on January 11, 2009, 01:05:30 PM
hello again,

Ive been reading this thread for quite a while.. but i still have some questions regarding the diy dry box.

Eto mga kailangan bilhin diba? Lock n lock storage or anybox na sealed, hygrometer and silica gel diba?

1. Where can i buy hygrometer and idea on how much it costs.
2. Do i have to pinch a hole in the storage box to mount the hygrometer?
3. Where do you buy silica gels aside from true value, assuming na walang true value near sa amin? I saw sa ace hardware, packed in small plastics yung silica gel na binebenta nila eh.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: yurax on January 11, 2009, 01:20:32 PM
hello again,

Ive been reading this thread for quite a while.. but i still have some questions regarding the diy dry box.

Eto mga kailangan bilhin diba? Lock n lock storage or anybox na sealed, hygrometer and silica gel diba?

1. Where can i buy hygrometer and idea on how much it costs.
2. Do i have to pinch a hole in the storage box to mount the hygrometer?
3. Where do you buy silica gels aside from true value, assuming na walang true value near sa amin? I saw sa ace hardware, packed in small plastics yung silica gel na binebenta nila eh.

Thanks!

1. Infomax
2. Nope, just place it there or stick to to any wall facing outside ofcourse.
3. HandyMan
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: tackypinili on January 11, 2009, 01:24:01 PM
okay thanks sir, any idea magkano sa infomax ung hygrometer?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jet on January 11, 2009, 01:40:42 PM
okay thanks sir, any idea magkano sa infomax ung hygrometer?

around 700 petot..  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: tackypinili on January 11, 2009, 02:04:48 PM
Yan na ba yung digital sir?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jet on January 11, 2009, 02:10:39 PM
Yan na ba yung digital sir?

yup, digital na po
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: a700 on January 11, 2009, 02:55:57 PM
IMO better to get a dry cabinet, costs just a small amount compared to our gears and avoid the hassle of small/diy boxes.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: a.10.4 on January 11, 2009, 11:14:29 PM
hi! any updates on your yangyang drybox? does the hygrometer works?

question:

regarding the home life silica gel bought from true value, do i need to remove them from their plastic when i use them in my diy box? tnx:)

The Hygrometer works.  The electronic dehumidifier however is a tad bit slow in my opinion as it took more than 1 day to pull down the RH to 50%.  Currently, the reading is at 40%.  But for its price, overall I'd say sulit na din for my purposes of storing my kit.  ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: tackypinili on January 13, 2009, 09:04:55 AM
thanks sir sa mga inputs sa dry boxes!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: chuck on January 14, 2009, 06:17:29 AM
You don't have to remove the silica gels in their plastic sir :)

The only time you have to recharge them is when they are pinkish in color.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: tackypinili on January 14, 2009, 03:21:32 PM
Pero sir pano sila makakaabsorb ng moisture if nasa plastic? :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Casual_Folk on January 14, 2009, 03:26:45 PM
Pero sir pano sila makakaabsorb ng moisture if nasa plastic? :)

yun din po tanong ko. although meron atang maliliit na butas sa plastik
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: ZD5 on January 14, 2009, 03:34:19 PM
There are small holes on the plastics, so maka absorb pa din sya...  ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Casual_Folk on January 14, 2009, 03:42:10 PM
may mga silica gels din na parang tela ang cover. yun yung mga nasa shoe boxes. san po kaya nakakabili non.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: JackRyan on January 14, 2009, 09:49:34 PM
OT: Hey Bro PARC, musta na? :-)

Btw, are the battery operated dry boxes fairly reliable or should I go straight for a dry cabinet that is electricity powered?

Thanks,
-JackRyan
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: tackypinili on January 19, 2009, 05:08:30 PM
I made a DIY dry box already..

21L Lock n Lock box

and a box of silica gels from Ace Hardware. costs around 74 pesos.
small packs in plastics with small holes in a big plastic inside the box. i just opened the big plastic and placed them inside the 21L dry box.

I havent bought a hygrometer yet, will it be ok?

thanks!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jusap on January 19, 2009, 09:08:33 PM
i just finished mine kaso RH is still at 66%
intayin ko pa kung bababa

if not, dagdagan ko lang ng gel no?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: reflex on January 21, 2009, 12:20:01 AM
Bought a Wonderful dry box and 'rechargeable' moisture absorber/dessicant. Very easy and simple to set up.

With the Nikon D60 and 18-105mm VR lens inside, RH at 50% using the dry box's built-in analog hygrometer.

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nmeuvdast8 on January 22, 2009, 07:40:56 PM
how can i increase the RH of my drybox? for two days now, my drybox has an RH of 35-39%. i tried opening the lid for a whole day, pero hindi naman tumaas ang RH reading. and take note, the 35-39% reading was without any silica gels present in my drybox. it seems na mababa talaga ang RH sa room namin. =[
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: athlonfan2 on January 22, 2009, 08:11:03 PM
nmeuvdast8,

what hygro are you using? Check your hygro for accuracy, more info around sa net.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: nmeuvdast8 on January 22, 2009, 11:21:42 PM
nmeuvdast8,

what hygro are you using? Check your hygro for accuracy, more info around sa net.

the one sold at infomaxx. it seems that it is not calibrated properly! i tried removing the battery and put it back in after a few minutes. the reading went up to 42%. and after an hour, it went down to 40%. i'll try to calibrate it if i have some spare time this saturday.

btw, may alam ka ba na bilihan ng analog hygrometer? lahat ata ng "popular" stores that was mentioned here and the other forum ay napuntahan ko pero wala na.  :(
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: pitbull on January 22, 2009, 11:27:05 PM
sa national bookstore meron...kasama nya yun mga barometer etc...

bibili ako dapat pero tinuruan ako ni kuya philip ng watsons na bumili na lang ng tupperware,hygrometer at silica gel
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Kodakan on January 23, 2009, 10:42:37 PM
wonderful dry box is great
i got mine from JT at pasong tamo

prices there are great
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: fireman on January 25, 2009, 12:04:33 AM
Hi!  Just bought a digtal hygrometer at infomax market market branch earlier.  It cost P650.00, cash or charge...  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: cartier-bresson on January 25, 2009, 11:30:56 PM
I would like to share my fungi experiences.  :D

In the late '90s, I stopped using my camera.  I stored the gear in a camera bag which in turn was stored in a cabinet.  The room was air conditioned every night.  This went on for several years.
The result: Fungal growth in all 3 lenses.

Had these lenses cleaned in Columbia Megamall.

Then... Around year 2004, I stored my lenses in their respective boxes (wrapped in plastic) which in turn were stored in a drawer.  After a year or so when I took them out, one lens had fungal growth inside, another had mild fungal growth inside, and the third one did not.

Hadn't had them cleaned yet.  But for almost a year now, they are stored in a DIY dry box.  The one with the mild fungal growth appeared to have cleared up after several mild exposures to sunlight.  But the other one still has some fungi.

By the way my Lock & Lock dry box RH reading is 58-60% still.  I might try some other type of desiccant.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: tackypinili on January 28, 2009, 03:32:15 AM
I would like to share my fungi experiences.  :D

In the late '90s, I stopped using my camera.  I stored the gear in a camera bag which in turn was stored in a cabinet.  The room was air conditioned every night.  This went on for several years.
The result: Fungal growth in all 3 lenses.

Had these lenses cleaned in Columbia Megamall.

Then... Around year 2004, I stored my lenses in their respective boxes (wrapped in plastic) which in turn were stored in a drawer.  After a year or so when I took them out, one lens had fungal growth inside, another had mild fungal growth inside, and the third one did not.

Hadn't had them cleaned yet.  But for almost a year now, they are stored in a DIY dry box.  The one with the mild fungal growth appeared to have cleared up after several mild exposures to sunlight.  But the other one still has some fungi.

By the way my Lock & Lock dry box RH reading is 58-60% still.  I might try some other type of desiccant.

what kind of dessicant do you use?
I use that kind of setup with the Homelife silica gel. RH at my room is around 55% RH using the analog hygrometer. And inside the Dry box, at 42%. I guess it works..
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: cartier-bresson on January 28, 2009, 09:06:29 AM
what kind of dessicant do you use?
I use that kind of setup with the Homelife silica gel. RH at my room is around 55% RH using the analog hygrometer. And inside the Dry box, at 42%. I guess it works..

I forgot which brand I'm using.  But the silica gel comes in small clear packets with blue writing.  I bought it at Ace Hardware.

The change in temperature and humidity in my room from morning till night is quite significant.  I have noticed that when I open the box at night, the humidity increases inside after I close it.  But when I open it midday, the humidity decreases inside once closed.

I only started using the digital hygrometer at the beginning of this month (during the cold spell) so my observations might not be as reliable yet.  Will post more results once the climate becomes consistent.   :)

I will look for Homelife silica gel as you suggested tackypinili, thanks.   :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: inkin959 on February 01, 2009, 07:47:12 PM
my gears right now are gettin' bigger and need to upgrade from a small drybox..so just acquired a prof. 4 layered dry cabinet with dehumidifier...
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3097/3243595102_9c6c10b25d.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3481/3242757959_c66e70849c.jpg)

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jesusluison on February 01, 2009, 11:46:13 PM
wow... nice and classy drybox setup...

ako... just a basic airtight box with hygrometer + dessilicant...

less than 1k... basic drybox --- diy :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: JasonQuibilan on February 02, 2009, 01:14:46 PM
Whats the best price:performance brand available here in the Philippines and where to get it? TIA!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jet on February 02, 2009, 01:20:06 PM
Whats the best price:performance brand available here in the Philippines and where to get it? TIA!

Most of the infos are here in this thread. Backread lang bro.  ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jl1 on February 03, 2009, 12:18:05 AM
@jasonquibilan
bought a eureka dry box (model rt48c) from a direct importer/exclusive dealer just last month. so far, so good. try to get in touch with gilbert at 09175306365. tell him you saw his post at pinoy horology, http://pinoyhorology.phpbb24.com/forum/am-the-exclusive-distributor-of-eureka-dry-box-t594.html#6424 (http://pinoyhorology.phpbb24.com/forum/am-the-exclusive-distributor-of-eureka-dry-box-t594.html#6424), he usually gives a 10% discount. by the way delivery w/in metro manila is free. hope this helps.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: comarx17 on February 04, 2009, 11:37:06 PM
what will happen if your RH is too low in the dry box and what is the appropriate RH levels in the dry box?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Atty. June on February 04, 2009, 11:40:14 PM
my gears right now are gettin' bigger and need to upgrade from a small drybox..so just acquired a prof. 4 layered dry cabinet with dehumidifier...
([url]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3097/3243595102_9c6c10b25d.jpg[/url])

([url]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3481/3242757959_c66e70849c.jpg[/url])




Sir Ian...How is this kind of drybox? Looks sturdy to me...Thanks po...
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: inkin959 on February 05, 2009, 06:40:24 PM
Sir Ian...How is this kind of drybox? Looks sturdy to me...Thanks po...

yes po sir,sturdy nga talaga...it cost 14k sa ganitong size...may mas liit ng konti,around 10k+...while ang mas malaki cost form 15-25k..

sa SM ace hardware daming ganito.. :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: friendlypirate on February 05, 2009, 08:19:23 PM
naka plug po lagi to?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: tynn on February 05, 2009, 08:22:28 PM
naka plug po lagi to?

yup... para siyang ref... nag maintain naman siya ng rh... ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: marco_30D on February 05, 2009, 08:31:23 PM
@inkin959, sir how much po yung ganyang size na dry box/cabinet?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: inkin959 on February 06, 2009, 08:19:37 AM
@narco

nasagot ko na sir,back read lang sa same page..:)

@friendlypirate

yep,naka plug parati..para maintain nya ang RH...pero u dont need to worry sa power consumption nya,,since its only 3.5W, and may automatic on/off...

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: LGO on February 13, 2009, 11:14:23 PM
IMO better to get a dry cabinet, costs just a small amount compared to our gears and avoid the hassle of small/diy boxes.

True for the most part but we each have our comfort zones and this differs among us.  But for those whose budget will allow a dry-box, consider this advise well as using a "pro" dry box is as convenient as using a refrigerator.

I have a Eureka Dry Box that I got from Aperture.  But reading this thread has given me an idea on how I could protect my equipment if I need to store these for extended period when travelling to sites other than where I have my dry-box and where the relative humidity is high.

In such instances, the ability to make or assemble your own DIY boxes can be a life-saver.

I realize of course that one should not "baby" one's equipment to the point of absurdity.  But there are just some sites where the RH simply hits the to of the chart.  The DIY boxes will at least provide some reprieve in such cases.         

Thank you to all who contributed on this matter here.   :D

By the way, here is my own experience with my dry-box:

1. One effect of air-conditioning is to lower the relative humidity in the room.  So opening and closing of the dry box in an air-conditioned room will help.   For the same reason, I keep my dry-box in a room that is air-conditioned for the longest period of time.  This way, the room where the dry-box is kept will at least have a lower RH than outside where it may not be air-conditioned when I open and close it.

2. Before opening my dry-box, I use a flashlight that I keep nearby to check where my gears are to shorten the time when my dry-box is open (same principle as a refrigerator).  I do have a fixed location for each gear but this practice still helps.
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: LGO on February 13, 2009, 11:25:02 PM
what will happen if your RH is too low in the dry box and what is the appropriate RH levels in the dry box?

Good question.

One danger I see from very low humidity is electrostatic discharge or ESD.  ESD is specially a concern when it is both cold and dry.  ESD when sufficiently strong can damage the sensitive circuits of electronic devices.

ESD happens a lot when RH is very low.  Some of us may have experienced this recently when it was cold in Manila from Nov. to early January where the RH dropped to as low as 35-38 percent.

Many equipments normally have an ESD ratings that indicate the highest level of ESD it can take.  But I do not know what the ESD ratings are for most dSLRs. 

Since prudence is sometimes the better part of valor, it will help to minimize the static built-up in one's body before handling one's equipment stored inside the dry box.  Touching a fairly large bare metal object with one's bare hands should be enough to discharge the electrostatic charge in one's body.  Thereafter, it will be safe to handle the photo gears.





Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: urmoments on February 16, 2009, 07:38:21 PM
since i'm a newbie, i try to read all the discussions here and really learn so much! and since i'm a momma, i'm kinda used to getting the theories/facts straight first, then devise my cost saving measures. Dry boxes- Lock&Lock is expensive, Biokips is as good but like 30-40% cheaper, got 3 big ones on sale at Trinoma today. Also bought 2 kilos of silica gel at U.P. shopping center (store sells scientific instruments & stuff- use entrance near PNB) for P130/k. I'm making small purses of very light material tonight to keep my gels. I have a common sense way of knowing if my gels need to be dried- they're heavier, using a small food weighing scale, get the actual weight of the gel in purse first then weigh in a few days time. ha,ha,ha i don't know if you'll be happy with this but i am- till i get my own hygro. Oh! that's another shopping adventure to look forward to! And did i tell you i also got my new Nissin speedlite Di622 today? I'm so happy!!! but i'm kinda weird, i printed all reviews, got all materials i could about the nissin then i'll read everything tonight, master the manual, then probably, take it out of the box say, tomorrow evening! I do this with every new gadget!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: LGO on February 16, 2009, 10:23:22 PM
since i'm a newbie, i try to read all the discussions here and really learn so much! and since i'm a momma, i'm kinda used to getting the theories/facts straight first, then devise my cost saving measures. Dry boxes- Lock&Lock is expensive, Biokips is as good but like 30-40% cheaper, got 3 big ones on sale at Trinoma today. Also bought 2 kilos of silica gel at U.P. shopping center (store sells scientific instruments & stuff- use entrance near PNB) for P130/k. I'm making small purses of very light material tonight to keep my gels. I have a common sense way of knowing if my gels need to be dried- they're heavier, using a small food weighing scale, get the actual weight of the gel in purse first then weigh in a few days time. ha,ha,ha i don't know if you'll be happy with this but i am- till i get my own hygro....!

Great tips here!   ;D

I bought a Eureka dry box but despite getting a large-sized unit, I am running out of room.  One reason why is that I am now finding new stuff to store inside my dry box, like my binoculars.   I recently acquired a Canon IS Binoculars and this thing is big so its now  crowding out the little free space I have for my photographic equipment.  I am also seeing more things that can benefit from humidity control but would be bulky to store in the drybox size sold locally.

I am thus thinking of making several DIY dryboxes to store those items that I seldom use ... freeing up room in my drybox for the items that I regularly take out and use.  One drybox will be for items I bring out perhaps once a month, another drybox for 3-6 months items, etc.  Rather than having one drybox for several items, I could also make several smaller drybox to contain size-specific items so that I will not have to dehumidify a large drybox when I want to get just one of the many items stored inside.

Your mention of the site where I could get some silica gel in large quantity at a reasonable price will be a big help.  If you can post the name of the store and even your contact person there, I am sure that many here will appreciate this info.  If enough of us from PiPho go there, maybe we can get a PiPho discount ... ha ha ha ha!

Your method for determining whether the desiccants need to be dried is ingenious as you already have a weighing scale (that can measure in milligrams?).  For me though, I may opt for a hygrometer as it may cost me more to buy the scale than to buy the hygrometer.   ;D

P.S.

Kudos on your actually reading the manual before using an equipment!  Not many will have the patience and the discipline to do this before using a newly purchase equipment.    :D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: photosyut on February 17, 2009, 11:40:57 AM
mga sir tanong ko lang po pag ba nakalagay sa dry box nyo yung mga camera nyo at itatago for 1 week or more tinatangal nyo yung lens and battery?  :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Furry on February 25, 2009, 08:05:13 AM
Just bought a 10L lock n' lock (from SM Dep't store) and some silica gels (Homelife brand from Ace Hardware). Peace of mind lang for basic gear protection from dust and humidity. Now i can sleep better :) Total damage.. approx 850 pesos!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Jargon on February 25, 2009, 11:10:01 AM
Just bought a 10L lock n' lock (from SM Dep't store) and some silica gels (Homelife brand from Ace Hardware). Peace of mind lang for basic gear protection from dust and humidity. Now i can sleep better :) Total damage.. approx 850 pesos!

Don't forget the hygrometer. How else will you know if the humidity is too low or too high?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Furry on February 25, 2009, 11:23:59 AM
Thanks for the advice sir! Will purchase that soon at medyo kinapos na sa budget.. hehe!

This should still be way better than just keeping it on my camera bag with silica gels inside right?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: Furry on March 05, 2009, 12:49:32 AM
So far hindi pa naging pink yun silica gels (homeliving) sa DIY LnL Drybox ko after a week. It's either okay ang humidity levels or sobrang dry na yata sa loob.. hehe! I usually turn the aircon at night kasi or sometime in the afternoon. Although i would still need to get a hygrometer to get an accurate read on this. Effective kaya itong homeliving dessicant?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: charina.razon on March 05, 2009, 12:34:15 PM
Don't forget the hygrometer. How else will you know if the humidity is too low or too high?
saan po nakakabili ng hygrometer? set ko kase yun home living brand parang lock and lock style and 2 packs of silica gel bought @ jt photoworld last night. kailangan pa bang lagyan ng map sa loob ng dry box?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: cartier-bresson on March 05, 2009, 01:08:32 PM
saan po nakakabili ng hygrometer? set ko kase yun home living brand parang lock and lock style and 2 packs of silica gel bought @ jt photoworld last night. kailangan pa bang lagyan ng map sa loob ng dry box?

I bought my hygrometer at InfoMax in M.O.A. Cyberzone for Php 600.00.  Pero some of the folks here got theirs at SM Dept. Store accessories department for a much cheaper price.

By the way, JTPhoto's silica gel is really effective.  I bought one pack and the humidity dropped by 10%.  Dati 61% now it's 51% na lang.   :)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: charina.razon on March 05, 2009, 05:22:02 PM
I bought my hygrometer at InfoMax in M.O.A. Cyberzone for Php 600.00.  Pero some of the folks here got theirs at SM Dept. Store accessories department for a much cheaper price.

By the way, JTPhoto's silica gel is really effective.  I bought one pack and the humidity dropped by 10%.  Dati 61% now it's 51% na lang.   :)

yun silica gel ba nila yun de charge? deliscant ba ang pangalan nuon? ang binili ko lang kase yun silica gel na pack
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: cartier-bresson on March 05, 2009, 08:13:51 PM
yun silica gel ba nila yun de charge? deliscant ba ang pangalan nuon? ang binili ko lang kase yun silica gel na pack

Pack lang din ang aking binili.  One pack lang, Php 75.00 ang large.
Yung rechargeable yata ay P430.00 something no?
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: wubbzy on March 06, 2009, 02:04:05 PM
eto sakin, hehehe!

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3404/3332682562_046b6e2603.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3537/3332682564_97fa69a048.jpg)

yung plastic bag, pinaglagyan ng groceries
yung rubber band, galing sa biniling sitaw ni kumander (pam-bigkis sa sitaw)
yung pouch, free lang sa isang fastfood
yung hygrometer, bigay lang ng isang mabuting kaibigan (fellow pipho)

yung may-ari... kuripot.  ;D


Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: tutut17 on March 06, 2009, 03:50:42 PM
Quote
yung plastic bag, pinaglagyan ng groceries
yung rubber band, galing sa biniling sitaw ni kumander (pam-bigkis sa sitaw)
yung pouch, free lang sa isang fastfood
yung hygrometer, bigay lang ng isang mabuting kaibigan (fellow pipho)

yung may-ari... kuripot.  Grin

nice!  :) very resourceful!  ;)
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jaypzs on March 06, 2009, 08:48:28 PM
hahaha i love that!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: spyderdos on March 06, 2009, 09:39:53 PM
Hi guys! just wanna share some info re this thread. I use a lock n lock box, fits my d40 kit,d80 with 50 mm n 55-200 lens. Been using this for almost a year. experimented with silica gels from ace hardware, 64ph per pack until i tried the generic "dehumidifiers" the one with orange top cheap lang for 70ph.It got my box at humidity level 25-30 %. Used it for 4 months till i decided to buy a new one. What i do, so it wont dry up too much i open the box almost everyday.......... some bit of info to aid u..... ciao
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: wubbzy on March 06, 2009, 10:41:19 PM
sir spyder, wag daw gamitin ang dehumidifier. silica gel na lang re-usable naman e tipid na din gamitin. pwede ibilad sa araw para daw ma-recharge.

ang ginagawa ko pinapa-initan ko sa lumang kawali, (shake ng shake para wag matutong & mahinang apoy lang, parang nagluluto ng popcorn). 1minute lang yung mga kulay pink na gels nagiging kulay blue.   ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jaypzs on March 06, 2009, 10:50:47 PM
waaahh.. saan ba talaga makakabili ng hygrometer!.. i still cant find an analog one.. yung mura lang, less than 5oo petot!> :D

huhuhu..
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: charina.razon on March 06, 2009, 11:00:25 PM
waaahh.. saan ba talaga makakabili ng hygrometer!.. i still cant find an analog one.. yung mura lang, less than 5oo petot!> :D

huhuhu..

naghahanap din ako ng hygrometer bukas check ko sa may glorieta..
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: jaypzs on March 06, 2009, 11:10:40 PM
saan sa glorietta? matagal na ako sumusuyod dun, wala akong makita.. haayss..
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: LGO on March 07, 2009, 12:28:43 AM
mga sir tanong ko lang po pag ba nakalagay sa dry box nyo yung mga camera nyo at itatago for 1 week or more tinatangal nyo yung lens and battery?  :)

I noticed that no one has answered this question. 

I normally keep my battery and lens on my body when I store these in the dry box.  This is primarily for convenience and to ensure that I do not have to remove and install the lens everytime I store and remove the camera from the drybox.  I do this because I am not using AA or AAA batteries and I do not fear the battery leaking in my bodies. 

As far as my flash is concerned, I do not keep this inside the dry box.  But I always remove the AA battery from my flash when I clean and store this after use.

Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: LGO on March 07, 2009, 12:32:03 AM
eto sakin, hehehe!

([url]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3404/3332682562_046b6e2603.jpg[/url])

([url]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3537/3332682564_97fa69a048.jpg[/url])

yung plastic bag, pinaglagyan ng groceries
yung rubber band, galing sa biniling sitaw ni kumander (pam-bigkis sa sitaw)
yung pouch, free lang sa isang fastfood
yung hygrometer, bigay lang ng isang mabuting kaibigan (fellow pipho)

yung may-ari... kuripot.  ;D



Wow ... what a great idea this is!  I will certainly make use of this in the field when shooting off-site for extended length of time!

Magaling Jo ... maraming salamat!    ;D
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: gakikun on March 07, 2009, 07:06:10 AM
ZOMG! i'm new at this. Never knew it would be this...complicated, hehehe! But I like it~!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: spyderdos on March 07, 2009, 07:15:06 AM
sir spyder, wag daw gamitin ang dehumidifier. silica gel na lang re-usable naman e tipid na din gamitin. pwede ibilad sa araw para daw ma-recharge.

ang ginagawa ko pinapa-initan ko sa lumang kawali, (shake ng shake para wag matutong & mahinang apoy lang, parang nagluluto ng popcorn). 1minute lang yung mga kulay pink na gels nagiging kulay blue.   ;D
    Bro, thanks for that info, di ko lam yun ah! Salamat, salamat!
Title: Re: Dry Boxes and Keeping Gear, fungus free
Post by: cartier-bresson on March 07, 2009, 10:41:43 AM
I noticed that no one has answered this question. 

I normally keep my battery and lens on my body when I store these in the dry box.  This is primarily for convenience and to ensure that I do not have to remove and install the lens everytime I store and remove the camera from the drybox.&n