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Any 18-200mm Vs. 2 Lens Lineup
« on: May 14, 2010, 06:41:32 PM »
I wanted to get suggestions from people who have experience using such lenses.

Any 18-200mm would do, and the 2 Lens lineup would be a Kit Lens, 18-55mm, And a Telephoto Zoom Lens, Most probably 55-250mm,and then 70-300mm Lenses.

Now what i Want to know is, Which has the better advantage? In terms of IQ, Sharpness, Capabilities, Price, Or whatever there is to talk about.

The search button seems to show me results that i really didn't need so i decided to make a topic instead.
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Re: Any 18-200mm Vs. 2 Lens Lineup
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2010, 09:07:24 PM »
kung sa mga binanggit mo lang yung pagpipilian sir, i would go for 18-200...

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Re: Any 18-200mm Vs. 2 Lens Lineup
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2010, 09:12:24 PM »
pros of an 18-200mm: convenience
cons: expensive and usually slightly poorer image quality on the longer side, but probably very tolerable for a hobbyist

if you'll go with an 18-200mm, go with your own brand. like for nikon, the nikkor's IQ said to be way better than the sigma and tamron counterparts. take note of the aperture too, the sigma/tamron's at f/6.3 @ 200mm, while the nikkor's at f/5.6 -- the f/6.3 is virtually useful only in good bright lighting.

personally, i think it's worth it. im considering on getting one eventually, but not so soon.

try to google for reviews, there are a lot of reviews about these lenses :)

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Re: Any 18-200mm Vs. 2 Lens Lineup
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2010, 09:28:38 PM »
I would disagree that Nikon's IQ is better than Sigma's. I currently own both, selling one or the other, and that's because Sigma is really sharp, maybe even sharper than my Nikon. I really don't notice much difference between the two in terms of IQ. I'm proud to say I'm happy with both! :)

why 18-200? convenience! I don't need to swap lenses, and I can even travel with just the 18-200. Makes more room for my flash and my 50mm in my bag.

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Re: Any 18-200mm Vs. 2 Lens Lineup
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2010, 09:33:39 PM »
18-270VC tamron. maganda ang bokeh ng background compared sa nikkor 18-200 VR (if nikon user ka XD)
i'm currently using the two lens set-up 18-55vr and 55-200vr. although mas inconvenient, mas mura naman siya and mas maganda blur ng background ng 55-200vr in tele end.

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Re: Any 18-200mm Vs. 2 Lens Lineup
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2010, 12:24:23 AM »
+1 kay zelknight

Although convenience wise talaga ang 18-200.  Less prone rin to na madumihan ang iyong sensor ng camera since hindi ka nga papalit palit.  Pero the best pa rin talaga ang sharpness ng 55-200 for me on the longer end compared sa 18-200.
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Re: Any 18-200mm Vs. 2 Lens Lineup
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2010, 12:27:02 AM »
 ;D 18-200 vr...no doubt sir..its all u need (specially outdoor)ive had some great pix on this lense..fair it with some prime lense like the 35mm 1.8 or the 50mm..indoor low light situation...gl sir!
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Re: Any 18-200mm Vs. 2 Lens Lineup
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2010, 12:44:34 AM »
i'd choose the 2 lens line up.

to me, mas sharp ang kit lens (18-55vr or 18-105vr) compared to 18-200vr (for nikon. si TS canon ata)
what more if atleast one lens is a 2.8?

then again, that's just me. hth

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Re: Any 18-200mm Vs. 2 Lens Lineup
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2010, 12:51:37 AM »
i got the tammy 17-50mm and the nikkor 55-200mm (sold already) and it worked fine for me..

hassle lang minsan kailangan magpalit tapos wala na yung moment na kukunan mo sana dahil dun sa period ng pagpalit ng lens

pros naman nya, less distortion, less hassle pag nasira yung isang lens mo, meron ka pa ding isang magagamit  ;D

as for dust and dirt, i was told that the 18-200mm is a a dust sucker due to the long travel of the lens barrel... dust gets into the lens, not sure if it gets also into the sensor/cam body...

ang ok sa 18-200mm, convenient sa mga situations wherein you would not know yung range na gagamitin mo....

tsaka mahal pa yung 18-200 vs kitlens+55-200mm or 55-250 ng canon  :o
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Re: Any 18-200mm Vs. 2 Lens Lineup
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2010, 11:29:12 AM »
for convenience the 18-200 would be nice especially if you're pressed for time na magpalit-palit pa ng lens.

pero the 18-55 IS + 55-250 IS of canon (which i have and use, btw) is a really good combo. ang ayaw ko lang talaga yung magpalit ng lens when i need wide or telephoto in an instant tapos yung maling lens ang nakakabit
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Re: Any 18-200mm Vs. 2 Lens Lineup
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2010, 12:49:30 PM »
Btw Canon user po pala ako.

Anyways, Thanks sa inputs. But I'm looking for the Quality Wise pictures here. Wala ako problems in switching lenses, medjo sanay na ako. Pa hiram hiram kasi e. hehe.

So ang 18-200, Hanggang what focal length siya sharp? Sabi nga ng Marami convenient talaga ang 18-200 kasi all around ka pero sharpness nga lang daw..i used my friend's d90+18-200VR medjo tagilid yung sa 190-200..may parts na hindi sharp, IDK on canon's end kasi wala pa ako nagamit. As for Sigma and other 3rd party lenses, Not planning on it kahit na its cheaper, you'd really have to be lucky to get good copies of such, and so i don't to waste time on finding the Best copy there is.
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Re: Any 18-200mm Vs. 2 Lens Lineup
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2010, 01:32:17 PM »
I suggest the 2 lens lineup. Papalitan mo rin yang 18-200 mo. Promise.

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Re: Any 18-200mm Vs. 2 Lens Lineup
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2010, 01:36:03 PM »
mas maganda pa yung 17-50mm f2.8 ng tamron, compare sa 18-200 ng nikon, lugi ka lang sa range pero sa quality and sharpness talo talaga agn 18-200, tingin ko sa canon ganyan din. nung nabili ko ung tamron lens, 95% ng shoots ko un ang gamit ko, pag malayo naman gamit ko 80-200. yung 18-200 ko nasa bahay lang at ndi nagagamit. i would rather change lens...

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Re: Any 18-200mm Vs. 2 Lens Lineup
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2010, 02:19:24 PM »
@iamstorm
wala pa ako 18-200, im deciding pa which lens to buy..Kit lang meron ako ngayon. leaning towards 2 lens pero im still not convinced yet.

@jerrick Thanks, really taking that into consideration.
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Re: Any 18-200mm Vs. 2 Lens Lineup
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2010, 03:11:51 PM »
^Lalo na kapag ganyan sir. Just think about it - if the 18-200 will just do, bakit andaming marami ang lente? Bakit madami ang nagpapalit na lang ng lens depending on the situation? That's because the 18-200 is woefully inadequate of giving the kind of IQ a multiple lens lineup can give.

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Re: Any 18-200mm Vs. 2 Lens Lineup
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2010, 06:13:06 PM »
Yes yes, good point. For me its not convenience kasi, IQ talaga habol ko on every shot.

Question lang, kung sino man may 18-200 na sumagot, Up to what focal length lang siya sharp?
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Re: Any 18-200mm Vs. 2 Lens Lineup
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2010, 12:09:29 AM »
IQ-wise, the 2-lens setup will be better
price-wise, the 2-lens setup will also be more affordable (if you already have the basic 18-55 /IS/VR, then you just need the 55-250 IS for canon or 55-200 for nikon; for the price of an 18-200 from canon/nikon, you can prolly buy your 55-200/250 + a 430EX II or SB600.  please correct me if i got the computations wrong).
convenience-wise, it's the 18-200 that wins (no need to change lenses and you'll also travel with just one lens as opposed to two... so a smaller bag will do for you).

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Re: Any 18-200mm Vs. 2 Lens Lineup
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2010, 08:46:18 AM »
Ok thanks, Maybe the 2 lens setup will be better. Thank you sa inputs!
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Re: Any 18-200mm Vs. 2 Lens Lineup
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2010, 09:38:38 AM »
Yes yes, good point. For me its not convenience kasi, IQ talaga habol ko on every shot.

Question lang, kung sino man may 18-200 na sumagot, Up to what focal length lang siya sharp?


hth :)

http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/sigma_18-200_3p5-6p3_os_n15/

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Conclusion - Pros

    * Huge 11x focal length range, ideal general purpose and travel lens
    * Relatively low chromatic aberration
    * Low distortion (for a superzoom)
    * Reasonably effective optical stabilization system, 2.5 - 3 stops benefit

Conclusion - Cons

    * Very inconsistent sharpness through the zoom range - extremely soft at 80mm
    * Soft corners at all focal lengths
    * Occasionally indecisive autofocus
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Re: Any 18-200mm Vs. 2 Lens Lineup
« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2010, 01:27:20 PM »
Nikkor 18-200 VR lens is better than any 2 kitlens combo, because you get precisely the same IQ per focal length...

But for me, i'd rather go for the 2.8 lenses for better IQ and low-light handling.

There is a price to pay for good glass! ;D

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